Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Victor Sudakov
David Wright wrote: > On Fri 29 May 2020 at 21:57:06 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > > > Finally, pkg delete -a sounds like something from the abattoir, > > > rather than anything you'd do to a pet (to use your analogy). > > > > It's not as terrible as it sounds ;-) It

Re: ActiveSync Postfix

2020-05-31 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, > I am using Postfix. (Postfix, OpenLdap, Dovecot, Squirrelmail) My goal > is to synchronize contacts and calendars. I have to do ActiveSync for > this. How can I resolve ActiveSync ? Is there an open source solution > ? Postfix does not support this. ActiveSync is a Microsoft protocol. If y

Re: ActiveSync Postfix

2020-05-31 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> https://sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGoInstallationGuide.html#_microsoft_enterprise_activesync I tried SAGO yesterday. More precisely, I installed it. But I was unable to log in. Everything seems correct in log records. I see a success session. It says welcome and returns to the session page. SOGO is li

Re: ActiveSync Postfix

2020-05-31 Thread Gokan Atmaca
> I have no idea what ActiveSync is, but will suggest you look at > Nextcloud (a cloud program you can run locally) and syncthing (a > directory synch program). I use both quite successfully Thank you for the information. I use Nextcloud. Very successful. On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 7:33 AM Charles C

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Joe
On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:28:34 +0700 Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Since what version does Windows have a reset option? For dozens of > years, literally, Windows has been notorious for leftovers of removed > programs remaining in the "base system" and causing unexpected > effects. There were even com

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 07:39:13 AM Joe wrote: > The Windows reset option is reinstallation, and always has been. For > the last few versions, the installation medium is a partition on the > hard drive, and it can be invoked from within Windows or from a BIOS > startup key. From the peanut gallery

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-05-31 at 08:33, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, May 31, 2020 07:39:13 AM Joe wrote: > >> The Windows reset option is reinstallation, and always has been. >> For the last few versions, the installation medium is a partition >> on the hard drive, and it can be invoked from within Win

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 31 mai 2020 à 14:33 de rhkra...@gmail.com: > From the peanut gallery: there is (or was?) that other function, not sure of > the name (maybe including a phrase (or concept) like "go back"), by which you > could take a snapshot of your system and then revert to that condition later. > > I nev

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Howard wrote: > With linux (debian) you could just create an image (using dd for example) of > the drive in order to restore it at a later date. If a backup shall have a chance to be absolutely safe it must be done while the backuped filesystems are unmounted or mounted read-only. Thi

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Do we have a feature to get a list of installed packages and to later > use it for re-installation ? Yes. dpkg --get-selections and its reverse, dpkg --set-selections to which one might want to add a backup of /etc and /var, at a minimum. And presumably /home. > I normal

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Howard
On 31/05/2020 13:33, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2020 07:39:13 AM Joe wrote: The Windows reset option is reinstallation, and always has been. For the last few versions, the installation medium is a partition on the hard drive, and it can be invoked from within Windows or from a

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Howard
On 31/05/2020 15:59, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Michael Howard wrote: With linux (debian) you could just create an image (using dd for example) of the drive in order to restore it at a later date. If a backup shall have a chance to be absolutely safe it must be done while the backuped filesyste

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-05-31 Thread Darac Marjal
On 30/05/2020 10:52, Richard Owlett wrote: > I the recent thread about returning a Debian installation to its > original state "popularity-contest" was mentioned. > > I wished to compare it to other tools mentioned in that thread. > Obvious stating point -- read the man page. > As I never installe

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Do we have a feature to get a list of installed packages and to later > > use it for re-installation ? Dan Ritter wrote: > Yes. dpkg --get-selections and its reverse, dpkg --set-selections Ahum. 2876 packages reported as installed. An ever growing number with each release, i ass

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, May 31, 2020 01:43:46 PM Michael Howard wrote: > On 31/05/2020 15:59, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > If a backup shall have a chance to be absolutely safe it must be done > > while the backuped filesystems are unmounted or mounted read-only. > > Obviously. Obvious to some, but bares repeati

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Howard
On 31/05/2020 20:52, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 31, 2020 01:43:46 PM Michael Howard wrote: On 31/05/2020 15:59, Thomas Schmitt wrote: If a backup shall have a chance to be absolutely safe it must be done while the backuped filesystems are unmounted or mounted read-only. Obviously

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread emetib
this has been an interesting topic, so what the hell, here's my two cents. for my vm's, i have a list off packages that i install as soon as the minimum/base install and reboot is done. 4 vm's, testing, stable, centos7, opensuse. i have no gui's on these only cli, just need to know how to con

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Tom Dial
On 5/31/20 03:28, Victor Sudakov wrote: > David Wright wrote: >> On Fri 29 May 2020 at 21:57:06 (+0700), Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> David Wright wrote: Finally, pkg delete -a sounds like something from the abattoir, rather than anything you'd do to a pet (to use your analogy). >>> >

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 mai 20, 19:54:09, Marco Möller wrote: > > From the view of a user, it does not sound so complicated ;-) . I guess, and > this will be fair, that I am now asked to program it, it's open source and I > should contribute. But unfortunately I can only contribute ideas, I am not a > programme

Re: Return a Debian system to a pristine state

2020-05-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 31 mai 20, 20:52:06, Tom Dial wrote: > > Moreover, ZFS is not DFSG and GPL compliant, and quite a few > users would avoid it because of that. ZFS is licensed under the CDDL[1], which is both free (as in freedom) and DFGS *compliant*. It is also *incompatible* with the GPL, which means di

Re: Can't get started

2020-05-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 mai 20, 16:09:46, David Wright wrote: > > My only worry was whether systemd-networkd gives way gracefully > to a configured ifupdown, or fights it like systemd-timesyncd vs ntp. systemd-networkd is not enabled nor configured by default in buster. > > > I've yet to see any virtue in us

Re: Debian man pages have annoying feature(sic)

2020-05-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 30 mai 20, 16:05:54, David Wright wrote: > > For man pages, I type man foo into google. That usually throws > up one or two links from different sources. I have/had these configured as search engines in Firefox (Vimium): dpkg: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=%s (Understand