Re: Talking about loop devices (was: Re: Partition information as text file?)

2019-01-31 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:15:58PM +1100, David wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 02:52, wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >A plain regular file can be made available as a device > >via the loopback driver > > I have a small addition to this excellent message. > > There is very widespread mixup o

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 07:21:10 + "Harley A.W. Lorenzo" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > After digging around more, the service file isn't just the only thing > gone, the entire package has been removed as well. Honestly, I have > no idea what could have resulted i

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > NM is a Gnome application. Are you sure? IMO it is not a gnome only tool although it is developed by gnome https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/NetworkManager.html Description-en: network management framework (daemon and userspace tools) NetworkManager is a system netw

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:57:42 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > NM is a Gnome application. > > Are you sure? IMO it is not a gnome only tool although it is > developed by gnome > https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/NetworkManager.html > That's what I mean. It was develop

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Holger Herrlich
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:23:43 +0100 deloptes wrote: > hoh...@arcor.de wrote: > > > I finally want to know how to separate the sessions. > > why don't you use a window manager. Most of them offer the option to > log in as different user, which will open a new session on the next > console.

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/29/2019 10:16 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Gparted displays the desired data in the GUI, but I see no way to get that information as a text stream. Well, it seems to inquire the info by filesystem specific means. The method is obviously named set_used_sectors(). S

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/30/2019 10:04 AM, Joe wrote: [snip] I suspect that to get exactly what you want, you will need to write a script that uses basic tools, checking for mounted filesystems and then temporarily mounting as necessary. Yes ;} But before this thread I didn't have needed background. By the wa

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Holger Herrlich
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:33:44 + Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:54:14 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Holger Herrlich
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:25:59 + Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 14:57:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 19:12 (UTC): > > > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > >> hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Holger Herrlich
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:57:59 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 19:12 (UTC): > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > >> > I logged in (to tty1) > >> > started X (startx) > >>

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Holger Herrlich
systemd is very aware the state: loginctl list-sessions SESSIONUID USER SEAT TTY 1 1000 addams seat0/dev/tty1 25 1000 addams seat0/dev/tty2 2 sessions listed.

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Though I not a C programmer, their organization leads to answers for my > questions [even a few I hadn't asked]. It's C++ in this case. (bleh ...) But what i meant is that Gparted runs external programs, which a simple shell script could do too. https://github.com/GN

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Felix Miata
Holger Herrlich composed on 2019-01-31 15:22 (UTC+0100): > On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:57:59 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: >> or what gfx, > ?? Common shorthand for *graphics* hardware. AMD/ATI? Intel? NVidia? Matrox? Other? Model? e.g. # inxi -GxxSM System:Host: big31 Kernel: 4.9.0-8-amd64 x86_64 b

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:56:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > tty1 became special with the introduction of systemd. Do not use tty1 > for X. Instead use tty2 and/or tty3 and/or tty4 and/or tty5 and/or > tty6. Buster may have this fixed, as upstream has apparently fixed it > 3 months ago. The behavio

Re: Talking about loop devices

2019-01-31 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 31/01/2019 à 02:15, David a écrit : A *loop* device is a *filesystem* technique to make a file accessible as a block device. I do not think that loop devices have anything to do with filesystems. The losetup(8) manpage states : losetup is used to associate loop devices with regula

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 18:36:58 (+), Brian wrote: > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:56:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > tty1 became special with the introduction of systemd. Do not use tty1 > > for X. Instead use tty2 and/or tty3 and/or tty4 and/or tty5 and/or > > tty6. Buster may have this fixed, a

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 15:54:57 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Though I not a C programmer, their organization leads to answers for my > > questions [even a few I hadn't asked]. > > It's C++ in this case. (bleh ...) > > But what i meant is that Gparted runs external pro

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:51:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 18:36:58 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:56:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > tty1 became special with the introduction of systemd. Do not use tty1 > > > for X. Instead use tty2 and/or tty3 a

Re: Partition information as text file?

2019-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > What bugs me is Gparted [though it does not output text] reports > > > used/unused space on each partition/file system. i wrote: > > [...] Gparted runs external programs, which a simple > > shell script could do too. David Wright wrote: > So going back to the OP,

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > mine runs clear && reset rather than clear_console. > > Does that make any difference? > > Thank you for looking at this. I tried 'clear && reset' on unstable and > have no complaints. Back to tty2 on after logging in and out and mouse > and keyboard normal operation on X in tty1. > > S

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Jan 2019 at 23:36:27 (-0500), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 1/29/19, David Wright wrote: > > However, the second method uses manual partitioning of the disks with > > gdisk, so I don't see why sda should not contain a(nother) FAT > > partition which is ignored. > > I don't see why eithe

Windows 10 & Debian 9: Win 10 not updating

2019-01-31 Thread Tom Browder
I have a new Win 10 Pro installation (from an MS DVD) on a PC upon which I then installed Deb 9 as a second OS dual-bootable. Boot selection works fine with either OS. I have an old Win 10 installation (upgraded from the original Win 7) on a laptop upon which I originally installed Deb 7 dual-boo

Re: Windows 10 & Debian 9: Win 10 not updating

2019-01-31 Thread Scarletdown
On 1/31/2019 2:02 PM, Tom Browder wrote: Problem: Neither Win 10 OS has been able to successfully update since about last April. I have tried all the things I have found in an Internet search, including making sure the Win partition is marked boot-able, and downloading and running the Win 10 trou

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Also in reply to: 20190131092106.2a6b3...@jresid.jretrading.com q2ugqc$4kcj$1...@blaine.gmane.org 20190131115051.3276c...@jresid.jretrading.com On 2019-01-31 09:21 + "Joe" wrote: >By 'removing' Cinnamon, do you mean that you uninstalled it? >I

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 00:30:40 (-0500), Albretch Mueller wrote: > use case: > > Say, you have a computer preinstalled with Windows, on which you > would like to install a Debian Linux base. You would: > > 1) resize the larger, Windows proper (/dev/sda3) partition Yes, the largest partition (/

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 15:01:49 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > mine runs clear && reset rather than clear_console. > > > Does that make any difference? > > > > Thank you for looking at this. I tried 'clear && reset' on unstable and > > have no complaints. Back to tty2 on after logging in

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > ... NM is a Gnome application. ... > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package Manager) and, even though no Gnome, Network Manager was installed. -- > Joe > Kenneth Parker

Re: Talking about loop devices

2019-01-31 Thread David
On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 05:50, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 31/01/2019 à 02:15, David a écrit : > > > > A *loop* device is a *filesystem* technique to make a file > > accessible as a block device. > > I do not think that loop devices have anything to do with filesystems. > The losetup(8) manpage st

fprintd

2019-01-31 Thread X200
fingerprint enrolling passes successfully with super user, but does not ask to swipe finger when "su" command executed. debian buster 4.19 thinkpad X200 amd64

Re: Windows 10 & Debian 9: Win 10 not updating

2019-01-31 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Browder composed on 2019-01-31 16:02 (UTC-0600): > I have a new Win 10 Pro installation (from an MS DVD) on a PC upon > which I then installed Deb 9 as a second OS dual-bootable. Boot > selection works fine with either OS. > I have an old Win 10 installation (upgraded from the original Win 7

Re: fprintd

2019-01-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 09:50:14PM -0800, X200 wrote: > fingerprint enrolling passes successfully with super user, but does not ask > to swipe finger when "su" command executed. Do you have "libpam-fprintd" installed? What are the contents of "/etc/pam.d/common-auth"? Reco

Re: Windows 10 & Debian 9: Win 10 not updating

2019-01-31 Thread Alexandre Rossi
Hi, >Problem: Neither Win 10 OS has been able to successfully update since >about last April. I have tried all the things I have found in an >Internet search, including making sure the Win partition is marked >boot-able, and downloading and running the Win 10 trouble shooter--all >to no avail.