On 10/25/2018 8:55 PM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:20:46PM +0200, john doe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to install Debian, it works if I do use the below command:
>>
>> qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d -m 1024
>>
>> I'd like to redirec
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:17:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> Thank Reco!
You're welcome.
> intel get higher mark than amd
That's expected. You need raw CPU power - you buy Intel.
> but could you explain a little about your command and bogomips?
> i can't find manual about such in
There is a "perf" package complementing the linux kernel package, for example if
the kernel package is linux-image-4.17.0-3-amd64 the perf package is
linux-perf-4.17. Also, take a look at this web page
http://www.brendangregg.com/FlameGraphs/cpuflamegraphs.html about profiling by
Brendan Gregg.
Re
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:13 +0300
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:17:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> > Thank Reco!
>
> You're welcome.
>
>
> > intel get higher mark than amd
>
> That's expected. You need raw CPU power - you buy Intel.
>
You need power buy AMD thr
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:42:53AM +0200, arne wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:13 +0300
> Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:17:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> > > Thank Reco!
> >
> > You're welcome.
> >
> >
> > > intel get higher mark than amd
> >
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:54:26 +0300
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:42:53AM +0200, arne wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 11:26:13 +0300
> > Reco wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:17:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> > > > Thank Reco!
> > >
On Thu 25/Oct/2018 20:30:27 +0200 Brian wrote:
> On Thu 25 Oct 2018 at 19:53:26 +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> early this morning a network card burned out. A few hours later, the server
>> was not responding on any network address, nor on the system console. I had
>> to
>> pow
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:23:39AM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Thu 25/Oct/2018 20:30:27 +0200 Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 25 Oct 2018 at 19:53:26 +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> early this morning a network card burned out. A few hours later, the
> >> serv
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:36:21PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> I put the router back on pool.ntp.org, but had to reboot it to take effect.
>
> Now this machine shows for ntpq -p:
> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
> ===
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:05:36AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> any package that test cpu/system speed and report benchmark?
> i have 2 old pc: intel pentium D 2.8 G and amd athlon 64 3800i bought them
> from 2nd hand dealers for about same priceso i think they're about same speed
The performance of
On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Now this machine shows for ntpq -p:
> remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter
>==
> +159.203.158.197 45.33.103.94 3 u 59 643 19.551
On Friday 26 October 2018 08:26:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:36:21PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I put the router back on pool.ntp.org, but had to reboot it to take
> > effect.
> >
> > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p:
> > remote refid st t when pol
On 10/26/2018 9:16 AM, john doe wrote:
> On 10/25/2018 8:55 PM, Reco wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:20:46PM +0200, john doe wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to install Debian, it works if I do use the below command:
>>>
>>> qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.5.0-amd64-netins
On Friday 26 October 2018 09:01:50 Curt wrote:
> On 2018-10-25, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now this machine shows for ntpq -p:
> > remote refid st t when poll reach delay
> > offset jitter
> >
> >==
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:29:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> and it goes out on the net and checks
> all servers before ntpq -p is completed, take 5 or 6 seconds to do that,
That's DNS resolution. It's looking up the IP addresses so it can
report names to you. If you want to skip that, you
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>
> I did Fortran programming on VAX/VMS machines back in the 1980's. Its
> file versioning feature was a godsend [1][2]. I want that on my Debian
> machines.
>
> 2018-10-25 17:28:29 dpchrist@vstretch ~
> $ apt-cache search vers
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
Why would you need a *program* to do that then you have Linux kernel
already?
grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo
Anyone reading that advice: ignore it. You cannot use bogomips to
meaningfully compare processors.
Mike Stone
On 2018-10-26 06:57, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:05:36AM +, Long Wind wrote:
any package that test cpu/system speed and report benchmark?
i have 2 old pc: intel pentium D 2.8 G and amd athlon 64 3800i bought
them from 2nd hand dealers for about same priceso i think they're
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:44:47AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
As I'm fond of saying TANSTAAFL. If we all, with multiple machine sites,
did this it would make a measureable difference in bandwidth used
If people want to set up local ntp servers, great. But just configure
the clients with a ser
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:59:16AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > Why would you need a *program* to do that then you have Linux kernel
> > already?
> >
> > grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo
>
> Anyone reading that advice: ignore it.
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:21:41PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2018-10-26 06:57, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:05:36AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> > > any package that test cpu/system speed and report benchmark?
> > > i have 2 old pc: intel pentium D 2.8 G and
On Friday 26 October 2018 09:53:39 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:29:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > and it goes out on the net and checks
> > all servers before ntpq -p is completed, take 5 or 6 seconds to do
> > that,
>
> That's DNS resolution. It's looking up the IP addr
Many man pages end with:
The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info >
and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
info XYZ
should give you access to the complete manual.
I have problems with that.
1. I don't want to install unneeded
Hi.
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:34:55PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >> Run QEMU this way:
> >>
> >> qemu -hda debian.img -m 1024 -nographic \
> >>-kernel vmlinux -append 'console=ttyS0,115200n8' \
> >>-initrd initrd.gz
> >>
> >> Replace -kernel, -initrd and -append with '-boot c' after
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 09:41:54 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Many man pages end with:
> > The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the
> > info > and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
> >
> > info XYZ
> >
> > should give you access to
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:34:26PM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:59:16AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Why would you need a *program* to do that then you have Linux kernel
> already?
>
> grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo
Anyone rea
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:41:54AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
Many man pages end with:
The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info >
and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
info XYZ
should give you access to the complete manual.
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 09:41:54 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> Many man pages end with:
> > The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the
> > info > and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
> >
> > info XYZ
> >
> > should give you access to
*Are online copies of textinfo content available?*
Many man pages end with:
The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the info >
and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
info XYZ
should give you access to the complete manual.
I have pro
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 10:46:12 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> *Are online copies of textinfo content available?*
https://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.en.html
--
Brian.
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:27:36 +0300
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> >
> > The problem is that the server froze. I don't think that's what it
> > is supposed to do when a card fails.
>
> It's my impression too.
>
A bad peripheral can cause almost any problem. If the bit of the card
connecting
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
I posted this question to debian-user@lists.debian.org .
The replies totally ignored my primary question and reason I asked
[emphasized in this copy].
You seemingly ignored answers which addressed it.
Side question:
Could I have
On Friday 26 October 2018 10:41:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
> Many man pages end with:
> > The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If
> > the info > and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the
> > command
> >
> > info XYZ
> >
> > should give you access to th
Thank Greg!
is there any general-purpose testing utility? i remember in early days some
program for DOS can report benchmark, (maybe made by nordon?) . and intel 486
always seems faster than 386.
On Friday, October 26, 2018 8:40 PM, Greg Wooledge
wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:05
On Fri 26/Oct/2018 11:27:36 +0200 Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:23:39AM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> The problem is that the server froze. I don't think that's what it is
>> supposed
>> to do when a card fails.
>
> It's my impression too.
In general, it is too difficult to know
Le 26/10/2018 à 16:34, Reco a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:59:16AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo
Anyone reading that advice: ignore it. You cannot use bogomips to meaningfully
compare processors.
The re
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:19:58PM +, Long Wind wrote:
is there any general-purpose testing utility? i remember in early days some
program for DOS can report benchmark, (maybe made by nordon?) . and intel 486
always seems faster than 386.
Try something like
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compa
On Friday, October 26, 2018 01:20:36 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> Agreed, a good man page is the best. I've no clue why there seems to be
> an aversion to a man page that has to be scrolled to read it all. All of
> us have up/down arrows on our keyboards, and 99% have a mouse wheel, so
> there is no ex
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:51:16PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 26/10/2018 à 16:34, Reco a écrit :
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:59:16AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > >
> > > > grep bogomips /proc/cpuinfo
> > >
> > > Anyo
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 13:20:36 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 26 October 2018 10:41:54 Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > Many man pages end with:
> > > The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If
> > > the info > and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 07:38:56PM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Fri 26/Oct/2018 11:27:36 +0200 Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:23:39AM +0200, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> >> The problem is that the server froze. I don't think that's what it is
> >> supposed
> >> to do when a card
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:12:29PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Just to chime in, my problem with the bash man page is knowing whether a
> given
> command is a bash built-in or external command -- if built-in, I'll find
> information within the man page.
>
> I usually first look for a sta
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:02:06PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:19:58PM +, Long Wind wrote:
is there any general-purpose testing utility? i remember in early days some
program for DOS can report benchmark, (maybe made by nordon?) . and intel 486
always seems faste
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 11:04:48 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 05:34:26PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:59:16AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 08:57:29AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > Why would you need a *program* to do that then
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 01:47:19PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 11:04:48 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote:
FWIW, even the kernel doesn't use naive busy loops anymore on newer
hardware. (TSC or MWAIT is used, depending on what the processor
supports.)
I've programmed a "busy loo
Hi,
when i compile something in a tmux or rxvt window, sometimes i get:
$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make
On Friday, October 26, 2018 02:22:32 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 02:12:29PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Just to chime in, my problem with the bash man page is knowing whether a
> > given command is a bash built-in or external command -- if built-in,
> > I'll find info
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 10:33:57PM -0400, songbird wrote:
what i really need to do is trust and use git
commits more but i have a block about some
things... *sigh*
That's certainly the best way forward in your case.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Has anybody tried copyfs, fsvs, or anything else with file versioning?
I haven't, but I would postulate that if they worked as well as you
might hope, we'd all already be using them.
--
⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀
On 10/25/18 7:33 PM, songbird wrote:
David Christensen wrote:
...
I did Fortran programming on VAX/VMS machines back in the 1980's. Its
file versioning feature was a godsend [1][2]. I want that on my Debian
...
what i really need to do is trust and use git
commits more but i have a block
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 09:16:47PM +0300, Reco wrote:
As far as I remember, the bogomips number has consistently been twice the
current clock frequency on any x86 PCU I have ever run Linux on.
Either your math is off, or they've changed it.
$ lscpu | egrep '(Vendor|MHz|MIPS)' # This PC
Vendo
Richard Owlett wrote on 10/26/18 9:41 AM:
> Many man pages end with:
>> The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo
>> manual. If the info > and XYZ programs are properly
>> installed at your site, the command
>>
>> info XYZ
>>
>> should give you access to the complete manual.
>
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:13:20PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> sudo apt show XYZ
For the record, you don't need to be root to use apt show, or apt-cache show.
On 10/25/18 7:45 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Has anybody tried copyfs, fsvs, or anything else with file versioning?
In my experience, I have only found a need to version /etc and $HOME
(and really only parts of $HOME, as opp
Greetings;
So far everything I have wanted to get from git has had a
button for "download zip file" and everything worked great.
I am trying to get a package that doesn't have a download
link. Anybody know the secret command to get the source in
some usable format?
I have tried the regular rt-clk
Greg Wooledge wrote on 10/26/18 3:16 PM:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:13:20PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>> sudo apt show XYZ
>
> For the record, you don't need to be root to use apt show, or apt-cache show.
>
>
>
Right you are! I guess it has become such a habit I just do
it automatica
Dennis Wicks writes:
> Another thing you can try is
> sudo apt show XYZ
> That will give you a bunch of info including a few lines of
> description. Usually enough to decide whether to pursue that
> package further.
That will give you the complete package description (and sudo is not
neede
On 10/26/18 6:57 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
I did Fortran programming on VAX/VMS machines back in the 1980's. Its
file versioning feature was a godsend [1][2]. I want that on my Debian
machines.
2018-10-25 17:28:29 dpchrist@vstret
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 15:13:20 -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>
>
> Richard Owlett wrote on 10/26/18 9:41 AM:
> > Many man pages end with:
> >> The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo
> >> manual. If the info > and XYZ programs are properly
> >> installed at your site, the command
>
On 10/26/18 12:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:32:52PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Has anybody tried copyfs, fsvs, or anything else with file versioning?
I haven't, but I would postulate that if they worked as well as you
might hope, we'd all already be using them
On Friday, October 26, 2018 01:50:22 AM Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:57:04PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
< darn, I lost one of the "citations" -- can't think of the right word -- I
think it was Reco who wrote:>
> > > It says here what you've used Google's MTA.
> > > It even has c
On Friday, October 26, 2018 05:39:55 PM Brian wrote:
> On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 15:13:20 -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> > Richard Owlett wrote on 10/26/18 9:41 AM:
> > > Many man pages end with:
> > >> The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo
> > >> manual. If the info > and XYZ programs
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 18:02:39 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 26, 2018 05:39:55 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 15:13:20 -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> > > Richard Owlett wrote on 10/26/18 9:41 AM:
> > > > Many man pages end with:
> > > >> The full documentation for
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 08:23, David Christensen
wrote:
Hi, I've noticed that you give a lot of good advice on this list. Now, I hope
to return the favour :) ...
> When I'm working on a file, I can do ten edit/ saves, or more. With a
> versioning file system, the original file plus all the saves
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 06:50, wrote:
> On Friday, October 26, 2018 02:22:32 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Use the "type" command to see.
> >
> > wooledg:~$ type cd
> > cd is a shell builtin
> > wooledg:~$ type ls
> > ls is hashed (/bin/ls)
>
> Ahh, wonderful -- thank you!
See also 'help type' for
rhkramer writes:
> I'm not the OP, and I don't have an example at hand, but I can vouch
> for the same thing, man pages and info containing the same
> information, modulo looking a little different.
Not always.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On 10/26/18 3:26 PM, David wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 08:23, David Christensen
wrote:
Hi, I've noticed that you give a lot of good advice on this list. Now, I hope
to return the favour :) ...
Thank you; I try.
When I'm working on a file, I can do ten edit/ saves, or more. With a
versio
On Friday, October 26, 2018 06:10:13 PM Brian wrote:
> On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 18:02:39 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It's probably been 15 years since I bothered looking at an info page --
> > maybe there are no more duplicate man and info pages -- but I don't
> > believe that.
>
> You can v
On Fri 26 Oct 2018 at 10:46:12 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> *Are online copies of textinfo content available?*
>
> Many man pages end with:
> > The full documentation for Ed is maintained as a Texinfo manual. If the
> > info > and XYZ programs are properly installed at your site, the command
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 02:46, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> Side question:
> Could I have made any clearer what information I was looking for?
Yes.
1) Regardless of your expectations, experience repeatedly confirms that readers
of large volumes of email messages are very likely to read and process t
On 27/10/2018 05.20, Dennis Wicks wrote:
Anybody know the secret command to get the source in
some usable format?
I always use 'git ' directly. Install it from the Debian repos if necessary.
On GitLab there's usually a box with the git url, but it's probably just
https://gitlab.com/username/re
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