Re: ext2 for /boot ??? -- WAS: Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 04:01:10AM +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/09/18 22:48, Matthew Crews wrote: > > My recommendation is to use a separate /boot partition and make it EXT2. > > Why not at least ext3? I don't baulk at ext4 btw for

kmail2 and TLS problem

2018-09-12 Thread Hans
Hi foilks, after last update of debian/testing I got into a problem with TLS. I can not get access to the mail servers running TLS. Also in the settings menu of kmail, I can not scan the server. Message: Server not reachable. However, the server is reachable, as kmail-trinity is working fine. T

Re: Interface does not setup on startup

2018-09-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 06:51:23AM +, Pablo Álvarez Córdoba wrote: > Hi folks. > > I have Debian 9. I configured my wlan interface to auto connect on startup. > But, networking service does not startup: > > sep 12 08:05:55 localhost wpa_supplicant[560]: Could not read interface

Re: bug

2018-09-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 08:28:02PM -0500, james wrote: > E: The value 'stable-updates' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as > such a release is not available in the sources > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. Please post here the contents of

Re: Gimp Babl too old

2018-09-12 Thread Pétùr
Le 11/09/2018 à 20:09, Dan Ritter a écrit : > > and a check says that sid now has a version 0.1.56 of babl, so > you should try installing that. Hi, I can only find the 0.1-0 version: $ apt search libbabl En train de trier... Fait Recherche en texte intégral... Fait libbabl-0.1-0/now 1:0.1.44-

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:32:56PM -0400, Lee wrote: Just out of curiosity - why would journaling be undesirable on a partition that is almost never written to? …I'm not sure what the answer to your question is, but with regards /boot and filesystems: on one EFI host of mine, I had a lot of pro

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 02:18:46 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: Hello Felix, >If the filesystem is being written to less than 5 minutes per year, >what do you suppose the odds are that power could be lost during any >portion of that less I've had it happen to me. The law of 'least convenient time for an

Re: Bug#908349: firefox-esr: no sound after upgrading from 52.9 to 60.2

2018-09-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:24:42 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: Hello Ric, >Works a charm for me, and has for years, BUT every once in awhile As it does for many, I'm sure. >the volume levels back up to 100%. Pulse rides on top of alsa, so alsa And that's a problem. Now, if sound goes wrong there are *

Problem with fcheck job on Debian9 after kernel update

2018-09-12 Thread Peter Viskup
The fcheck task take +45000 seconds to complete instead of +8500 after latest kernel update. Server is running on ESX as VM. Is somebody experiencing similar prolonging task execution on CPU intensive tasks? May be related to L1TF "Spectre-family" patches. What commands to run to investigate the ro

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-09-12 10:11 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:32:56PM -0400, Lee wrote: >>Just out of curiosity - why would journaling be undesirable on a >>partition that is almost never written to? > > …I'm not sure what the answer to your question is, but with regards > /boot

Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete

2018-09-12 Thread Pétùr
Le 12/09/2018 à 01:43, Felix Miata a écrit : >> I deleted the file >> .cache/shotwell/thumbs/thumbs360/thumb0c5c.jpg > Deleted exactly how? `rm -vf` in root >> without issue after chattr -i on this file. >> However, it didn't work for the index.html file which is considered as a >>

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Felix Miata
Brad Rogers composed on 2018-09-12 10:19 (UTC+0100): > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 02:18:46 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: >>If the filesystem is being written to less than 5 minutes per year, >>what do you suppose the odds are that power could be lost during any >>portion of that less > I've had it happen to

Re: kmail2 and TLS problem

2018-09-12 Thread David Baron
My KMail2 had a problem as well. Had not worked in ages. Claws is really a drag. GMail used TLS? On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 10:54 AM Hans wrote: > Hi foilks, > after last update of debian/testing I got into a problem with TLS. > > I can not get access to the mail servers running TLS. Also in the set

I am new to proxy

2018-09-12 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
Hi, I change my work place and I can have a Linux computer at work. The network at work is with proxy, so after reading about it I was able to make apt from the netinstall disk to talk with proxy. I have now a working Debian stable running. The proxy settings were in fact a *.pac file, which I dow

Re: red SATA cable corruption

2018-09-12 Thread Curt
On 2018-09-12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Yeah, I've some experience. And it goes back quite a ways timewise. > Maybe they made the cables red to warn you off them, like those brightly colored aposematic frogs in South America (now maybe drifting ominously north because of climate change, to eventua

Re: I am new to proxy

2018-09-12 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
I am responding to myself... I managed to fix the problem with cntlm. It turns out that localhost is resolved first into ::1 and then in 127.0.01. Apt will not cope with the first error. Wget, on the other hand will just continue. I replaced localhost with 127.0.0.1 in /etc/cntlm.conf and now it se

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 02:18:46AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: I want my boot partitions accessible no matter what I boot, even if it means booting using a Windows 98 floppy disk, attaching it via USB to a Mac, or booting an ancient PC running a pre-2.4 kernel. EXT2 has maximum backward compatibili

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread Matthew Crews
On 9/11/18 5:30 PM, David Christensen wrote: > But, people want ZFS-on-root on their Linux distribution of choice. So, > people find and post work-arounds. Matthew Crews has kindly posted what > appears to be the current work-around for Debian Stretch (no, I haven't > tried it): > > > See t

Re: update problem

2018-09-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:56:55 -0400 Default User wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:16 PM Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:56:03 -0400 > > Default User wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 23:42 Patrick Bartek > > > wrote: > > > > > > [big snip] > > > > > > > > Well,

Re: update problem

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 07:50:28AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: Plus, you have the advantage of a system that is customized to your hardware and personal tastes. System runs and boots faster. Confirmation bias is such a powerful thing...

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:49 PM Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 02:18:46AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >I want my boot partitions accessible no matter what I > >boot, even if it means booting using a Windows 98 floppy disk, attaching it > >via > >USB to a Mac, or booting an ancie

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:31:58 + Glenn English wrote: Hello Glenn, >But Felix talks about several boot partitions. I don't know, but >wouldn't >1 /boots confuse grub? He was, yes. Nowhere did he say that any given machine had >1 boot partition, though. -- Regards _ / )

Re: update problem

2018-09-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:56:14 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 07:50:28AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >Plus, you have the advantage of a system that is customized to your > >hardware and personal tastes. System runs and boots faster. > > Confirmation bias is such a power

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Felix Miata
Glenn English composed on 2018-09-12 15:31 (UTC): > But Felix talks about several boot partitions. I don't know, but > wouldn't >1 /boots confuse grub? Separate partitions that mount as /boot? Maybe if they were all in one PC on one disk. My such are spread across lots of PCs. I do have lots of b

add IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT macro to Exim

2018-09-12 Thread Lucio
I need to add the IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT macro to my Exim, but I don't know which is the configuration file where I have to write it and I don't know the correct syntax. I've already tried appending IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT='1' to /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf and then runnin

Re: A Very Bad umount

2018-09-12 Thread Étienne Mollier
Good Day Gene, Gene Heskett 2018-09-12T03:14 +0200 : > On Tuesday 11 September 2018 15:28:30 Martin McCormick wrote: > > [...] > > >Any constructive ideas are appreciated. If I left > > the drives mounted all the time, there would be no spew but > > since these are backup drives, having

Re: Gimp Babl too old

2018-09-12 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonjour Pétùr, On 9/12/18 10:40 AM, Pétùr wrote: > I can only find the 0.1-0 version: Don't let yourself be fooled by the version number in the package name (the part before the “/now”), and the real package version number (the part between the “/now” and “amd64”). It is a way to have various ve

Re: add IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT macro to Exim

2018-09-12 Thread Peter Wiersig
Lucio writes: > > undocumented line IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT=1 found in > /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf, generating exim macro > > and that does not sound good to me. Yeah, remove that. I think there is quite a lot of *.Debian.gz documentation in the various exim4 packages. > What's th

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Sep 2018 at 11:36:22 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2018-09-12 10:11 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:32:56PM -0400, Lee wrote: > >>Just out of curiosity - why would journaling be undesirable on a > >>partition that is almost never written to? > > > > …I'm

Re: add IGNORE_SMTP_LINE_LENGTH_LIMIT macro to Exim

2018-09-12 Thread Lucio
On 12/09/18 19:49, Peter Wiersig wrote: I think there is quite a lot of *.Debian.gz documentation in the various exim4 packages. Yes, maybe I got lost. What's the correct way to specify a macro (that one or others) in the Exim configuration? I created /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/00_peter-local

Re: A Very Bad umount

2018-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 12 September 2018 13:12:43 Étienne Mollier wrote: > Good Day Gene, > > Gene Heskett 2018-09-12T03:14 +0200 : > > On Tuesday 11 September 2018 15:28:30 Martin McCormick wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > >Any constructive ideas are appreciated. If I left > > > the drives mounted al

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, arne wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:26:56 > From: arne > To: deloptes > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, sp113...@telfort.nl > Subject: Re: Sound in Stretch > Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 21:27:13 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On Mon, 10 S

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-09-12 13:50 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 12 Sep 2018 at 11:36:22 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2018-09-12 10:11 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:32:56PM -0400, Lee wrote: >> >>Just out of curiosity - why would journaling be undesirable on a >> >>pa

Re: udev (without systemd) fails to find devices

2018-09-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-09-11 19:05 -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: > I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With > udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during > boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audio. I also have a > not-upgraded buster partition on the same machin

Re: A Very Bad umount

2018-09-12 Thread Martin McCormick
=?UTF-8?Q?=c3=89tienne_Mollier?= writes: > Good Day Gene, > > Gene Heskett 2018-09-12T03:14 +0200 : > > Should a badly placed “rm” command occur on the system, the > system and both of its backup disks would be wiped clean. I > don't believe the risk mentioned here over was related to disk >

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread Joe
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:53:39 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > does the command alsa-info give a clue? > > > > I didn't know about that one. It gives pages of stuff that look like > > what I used to find in /proc/asound, it certainly knows all about > > the USB device. No error messages, no sug

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 12/09/2018 à 20:50, David Wright a écrit : Now I think I can see the temptation to put all of /boot into the ESP: mine contains a tree of files under grub/ plus the eight kernel files one would expect—nothing that appears to conflict with a VFAT filesystem—so the EFI directory would fit nicel

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > That's not on any compatibility list anywhere, but it has worked OK for > years on Wheezy on the same computer hardware. Anyway, USB is USB, and > there really shouldn't be compatibility issues for at least basic > playback. I'm not trying to record or use SPDIF. could be that suppor

Re: ext2 for /boot ???

2018-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 01:50:40PM -0500, David Wright wrote: So what are the arguments against doing this (which I accept there may well be)? We'll ignore the eyebrow-raising need for /boot to be journalled, shall we? That it's an oddball untested configuration with no benefits at all seems s

Re: update problem

2018-09-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 12/09/2018 14:56, Default User wrote: Arch? [...] But the wiki is good . . . (And much of it is applicable to other distributions, including Debian.) +1 for the Arch wiki. I haver never used Arch, but the Arch wiki has helped me many times. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread David Christensen
On 09/12/2018 06:56 AM, Matthew Crews wrote: On 9/11/18 5:30 PM, David Christensen wrote: Matthew Crews has kindly posted what appears to be the current work-around for Debian Stretch (no, I haven't tried it): > See the ZFSOnLinux Wiki: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-St

Re: root on ZFS

2018-09-12 Thread Matthew Crews
On 9/12/18 7:26 PM, David Christensen wrote: >> The upcoming ZFS 0.8 will make LUKS unnecessary as it >> will feature native ZFS encryption. > > That will be a nice feature to have. I wonder when it will make it into > Debian. Good question. The ZFS package in Sid is still at 0.7.9, and upstrea

Re: udev (without systemd) fails to find devices

2018-09-12 Thread Bill Brelsford
On Wed Sep 12 2018 at 10:10 PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2018-09-11 19:05 -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: > > > I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With > > udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during > > boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audi

Re: Gimp Babl too old

2018-09-12 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2018-09-12 at 19:54 +0200, Étienne Mollier wrote: > At first, it sounded like the last `apt update` execution > occurred some time between “libbabl-dev” and “libbabl-0.1-0” > upgrade to version 0.1.56-1 on repositories side. > > But “libbabl-0.1-0” seems somehow picked from another > repos

Re: Sound in Stretch

2018-09-12 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 08:23:58 +0200 > deloptes wrote: I also found this http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/ When I googled, I was adviced to try without USB hub. So I directly connected to

"incomplete report" flood on kernel v4.18

2018-09-12 Thread cannorin
Hi, I'm getting a lot of spam in dmesg and trying to suppress them:   [ 1515.920264] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0903:00: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (14/65535)   [ 1515.927097] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0903:00: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (14/65535)   [ 1515.933965] i2c_hid i2c-ELAN0903:00: i2c_h