Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread mick crane
On 2018-03-24 03:31, Chris Anderson wrote: Hello I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen different flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system for slackware but I managed to get i

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Carl
On 03/23/2018 11:31 PM, Chris Anderson wrote: Hello I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen different flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system for slackware but I managed to

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Dominik George
> In the Free Software world, the response to something not > working is generally: > 1)If you know how, fix it and send the fix to the project so > it helps everyone, or, > 2)If you don't know how to fix it, report the problem in a > useful way, so someone else can fix it and help everyone. I thi

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
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Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread songbird
Chris Anderson wrote: > Hello ... sounds like these mistakes: - not using a netinst - not reading the installation guide so sorry... songbird

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 02:01:13PM +1030, Chris Anderson wrote: > Hello > > I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 > years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen different > flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system for sla

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread deloptes
Chris Anderson wrote: > Nearly everything fucked up from the Network install to the gcc make > command, what a hassle and after spending nearly a week trying to get it > all working I've had enough and am not wasting any more of my time on > this awful software. > > So thanks for wasting my time

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread deloptes
Dominik George wrote: > I think the main problem here is that the user considers himself too > much of an expert and stops seeing the easy things, like the step in the > installer asking explicitly for the desktop environment to install. It's > right there, but they are too l33t to simply open the

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 3/23/18 8:46 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 23 Mar 2018 at 13:05:17 (-0400), Miles Fidelman wrote: On 3/23/18 1:01 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 23 Mar 2018 at 11:59:06 (-0400), Miles Fidelman wrote: At some point, the network name that one's PC inserts into outgoing mail might become imp

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > I guess its one of those brain fucked idiots Although I realy agree with you, I don't think your tone is by any means better, and you should instead lead by example and not insult anyone on a Debian mailing list even if you are angry. Cheers, Nik signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: domain names, was: hostname

2018-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi, Am 2018-03-24 hackte Miles Fidelman in die Tasten: > On 3/23/18 8:46 PM, David Wright wrote: >>> Not actually sure of that.  Verizon stopped offering mail a while >>> ago (sent people to AOL), and then there are folks who have >>> university or work accounts. >> Verizon own AOL. >> > Right. 

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Saturday, March 24, 2018 2:01:13 PM -03 Chris Anderson wrote: > Hello > > I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 > years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen > different flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system > for

Can't get an OpenGL context above 1.3 in Stretch

2018-03-24 Thread Daniel Keast
Heya All, I have some OpenGL code that used to work fine on Jessie, but now I'm running Stretch I can't seem to get a context above 1.3. I have a ThinkPad X220, with cpuinfo reporting that it has an "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz". This I think is the relevant bit of code, but I'm happ

Re: Can't get an OpenGL context above 1.3 in Stretch

2018-03-24 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 24. März 2018, 14:58:41 CET schrieb Daniel Keast: Hi Daniel, maybe I am wrong, but I believe, that the problem might be your hardware. Some hardware is not capable on opengl2, only on opengl1. On my netbook I am using an Intel i945 graphics chip, which is only opengl1.0 capable. Ho

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 03/23/2018 08:31 PM, Chris Anderson wrote: Hello I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 years ago. Since then I have installed and used at least a dozen different flavours. By far the most challenging was the X windows system for slackware but I managed to

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Hans
Hi there! Since DOS 6.0 and later in SuSE and Debian I learnd one thing: Whenever things do not work, it is mostly my own fault. So, when I hear "It's not working!" or hardwer "This one sucks!", then the op mostly means "I do not know, how to fix it!" or harder "I am too stupid and not respon

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Brad Rogers
Why is anybody replying to this? It's quite clearly a drive-by complaint. The OP is *not* going to listen to advice or hear offers of help. They won't get them - they're not subbed to the list. Even if we could go to their home and help set it up, they'd not be interested because that would pro

issue with iptables antispoofing rules in xen4.8

2018-03-24 Thread spi
Hi all I have isses with the on domU startup automatically generated antispoofing rules by /etc/xen/scripts/vif-bridge and /etc/xen/scripts/vif-common.sh Both are part of the xen-utils-common package (4.8.3+comet2+shim4.10.0+comet3-1+deb9u5 installed on Debian 9.4). A domU test01 has two virtua

Nu B

2018-03-24 Thread jmczzz
i really want to get Debian so i have been lurking this list for a while. I have Ubuntu on a loptop (Using Now) and want to use Debian on another used one i just bought. it is a Dell latitude E6400. device name = DTOP-HSAM375, PROCESSOR = Intel Core2 Duo CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz 2.40 Ghz, Installed

Re: Can't get an OpenGL context above 1.3 in Stretch

2018-03-24 Thread Daniel Keast
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 03:26:03PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Samstag, 24. März 2018, 14:58:41 CET schrieb Daniel Keast: > Hi Daniel, > > maybe I am wrong, but I believe, that the problem might be your hardware. > > Some hardware is not capable on opengl2, only on opengl1. On my netbook I am > usin

Re: Nu B

2018-03-24 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2018-03-24 hackte jmc...@gmail.com in die Tasten: > I was planing on getting Debian 64bit version on a live/install dvd, > but No "BUT", just try it. If the Live-DVD works correctly, you can install Debian at any time on the Laptop. > now delayed because the recent negative comments I

Re: Nu B

2018-03-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Not necessarily, some dell laptops block installation of other operating systems. I had this happen with a Dell aspire I think 1540 several years ago. On Sat, 24 Mar 2018, Michelle Konzack wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 12:38:08 From: Michelle Konzack To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject

Re: Nu B

2018-03-24 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-24, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > Am 2018-03-24 hackte jmc...@gmail.com in die Tasten: >> I was planing on getting Debian 64bit version on a live/install dvd, >> but > > No "BUT", just try it. If the Live-DVD works correctly, > you can install Debian at any time on the Laptop. >

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread André Verwijs
true, is not as stable and user friendly as (k)ubuntu or Opensuse, but it works. André Op 24-3-2018 om 14:44 schreef Eike Lantzsch: > On Saturday, March 24, 2018 2:01:13 PM -03 Chris Anderson wrote: >> Hello >> >> I have been using different flavours of Linux since slackware 96 over 20 >> years

Re: Nu B

2018-03-24 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-24, Curt wrote: > On 2018-03-24, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Am 2018-03-24 hackte jmc...@gmail.com in die Tasten: >>> I was planing on getting Debian 64bit version on a live/install dvd, >>> but >> >> No "BUT", just try it. If the Live-DVD works correctly, >> you can insta

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 02:51:27PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > Why is anybody replying to this? > > It's quite clearly a drive-by complaint. The OP is *not* going to > listen to advice or hear offers of help. They won't get them - they're > not subbed to the list. > There are those who will rea

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:26:38 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Hello Roberto, >good responses are better than nothing in this case. Good arguments, but I'm afraid vague won't do for help in the future. Things will have changed, including Debian's installer. One thing does ring out loud and clear

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Fekete Tamás
To the original sender (Chris Anderson), we have a huge community. If you don't feel comfortable with this product switch back to something which better fit to your needs. And stop telling us that the OS is crap. In turn, you made the impression that you are a negative person, but just because of

Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly

2018-03-24 Thread Curt
On 2018-03-24, Fekete Tamás wrote: > > And stop telling us that the OS is crap. In turn, you made the impression > that you are a negative person, but just because of this I will not go to > your home and your neighborhood to tell you are a(n) ... > It's only water off a penguin's back.

Re: Debian 9 rocks, really

2018-03-24 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hahahaha -- +1, for me, for what's turning out to be a very entertaining weekend... Introduced to Debian in 2003, stayed on it though 2008, then Ubuntu for a while but defaulting to Debian full time for the past few years A particular moment to send thanks to the community and to these li

Re: Debian 9 rocks, really

2018-03-24 Thread Forest
On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 22:31 +, Andre Rodier wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. > Debian  > people are really a great team !!! > > André Rodier. > I concur. It's come a long way and is treat to use. Forest

Re: Debian 9 rocks, really

2018-03-24 Thread Dan Norton
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 22:31:11 + Andre Rodier wrote: > Hello all, > > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux > since Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read > the documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing > the wrong fre

Re: Debian 9 rocks, really

2018-03-24 Thread Dominik George
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 10:31:11PM +, Andre Rodier wrote: > […] Yeah! I've not come such a long way yet, considering I am only 27 years old, but I have been using Linux systems for 14 years now. Started with SuSE 7.2 (with a short visit to 5.3 for fun), switched to Ubuntu later and the nto Gen