Re: Debian on flash a store.

I've found debian to be quit handy on flash store. On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:35 PM, David Christensen < dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: > >> Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash >> drives that _are_ built for full-tim

Re: Debian on flash a store.

On 14/03/18 15:35, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: >> Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash >> drives that _are_ built for full-time use, as a system disk? >> >> I've got some old thin clients that could do with storage upgrades th

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On 13.03.18 10:48, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 21:31:00 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Too true. After a couple of hours of failing to get any GUI drawing > > package, not least LibreOffice, to do anything useful, I used Vim to > > textually produce the 8 drawings for my hous

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:15:22PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2018-03-13, wrote: > > [...] > > > 1) All generalizations suck. > > 2) Language wars are generally a loss of time. > > That makes two generalisations which, presumably, suck. So

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:20:30 + Brian wrote: > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 22:11:58 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: > > > I downloaded some Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs and I would like > > Not today you didn't. It's 9.4.0 now. > > > to know how long they are useful. In other words, how long > > may I retain

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:04:14 AM Albretch Mueller wrote: > I have a group of kids that are very good in Math and they want to > learn some actual programming What is the age group of these kids? I don't think I've seen it mentioned anywhere in the thread, and, to me at least, it seems lik

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 09:53:02PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > Perhaps, but I would get very excited if I found someone was interested by > that few lines of text. Such people are the ones who we really need, > because they're the ones who are going to be writing the building blocks of > tomo

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 09:15:58AM +, Joe wrote: > You could literally install any numbered version and upgrade in steps > to the current one, though that would be a lot of wasted work. Any > version 9.x would upgrade in one step to current, and in the fullness > of time (probably at least a ye

Re: GPG key expiry questions?

Hi, Ansgar. On 14/03/18 03:26, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >>> You can change the expiry date of your own key, but for other people to >>> be able to see it and avoid having your key show up as expired, you must >>> publish the new (key? signature? not sure...) and others must fetch it >>> before the

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On 3/13/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > There are now a variety of open source attempts at similar functionality, > this > page provides some thoughts: > > https://www.quora.com/Is-there-an-open-source-free-alternative-to-Mathematica Thank you! Very good reference! I like the idea of a free/OS P

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On 03/14/2018 04:15 AM, Joe wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:20:30 + Brian wrote: On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 22:11:58 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: I downloaded some Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs and I would like Not today you didn't. It's 9.4.0 now. Brian, did you bother to read what the OP *ACTUALLY* w

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hi there, IMO the Installation DVDs are rather usefull, because when they are read/ writable, then he can easyly update them by using the famous "jigdo-lite". I am doing so since years. This saves costs for new DVD's and saves a lot of bandwith. Just a little hint. :) Best regards Hans

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:12:51 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 09:15:58AM +, Joe wrote: > > You could literally install any numbered version and upgrade in > > steps to the current one, though that would be a lot of wasted > > work. Any version 9.x would upgrade in one step

Re: GPG key expiry questions?

On 03/14/2018 09:14 PM, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > On 14/03/18 03:26, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> Just run `gpg --refresh-keys` from time to time. > > Thanks for the suggestion. I have updated my keyring: > > GNUPG seems to have found 9 new signatures ('firmas' in spanish) from > Richard. > > The o

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On 03/13/2018 07:59 PM, Albretch Mueller wrote: [snip] No! A functional language! Object oriented languages are wrong! Linear types FTW! Multi-paradigm! Strongly typed! Dynamically typed -- no, statically typed! In fact, it will just be an introduction, but I want to teach them to be "multi

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 13:03:14 +, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 08:12:51 -0400 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 09:15:58AM +, Joe wrote: > > > You could literally install any numbered version and upgrade in > > > steps to the current one, though that would be a lot

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:29:38 + Joe wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 10:04:14 -0400 > Albretch Mueller wrote: > > > I have a group of kids that are very good in Math and they want to > > learn some actual programming > > > > My approach is to introduce them to the basics of coding using ANSI

Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. Now I need a similar icon. I went to the properties of the shortcut expecting to be able to discover the location of the image used. I could not. Clic

Re: PAE or not PAE?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018, Neo wrote: > No PAE. > > For 2GB of RAM it makes no sense. You just need this on 32bit machines with > more than 4GB of RAM. You need PAE to get the NX (non-execute) protection, and also KPTI (aka Meltdown defense). Note that KPTI for i686 is a work in progress. So, it migh

Intel-Microcode 20180312 - Meltdown/Spectre

Hi, under Debian Stretch i have updated the Microcode from Intel according to the readme instructions. ~#

Re: Intel-Microcode 20180312 - Meltdown/Spectre

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, mlnl wrote: > under Debian Stretch i have updated the Microcode from Intel > > according to the readme >

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:01:19 AM Joe wrote: > Actually, for some years I've kept in my jacket pocket the smallest > external hard drive I've ever seen, which sadly was the end of its > line. I haven't been able to find a replacement. > > It contains a 32-bit installation of Debian unstable

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hello, On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 02:58:45PM +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 13:03:14 +, Joe wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > That's a wee bit overly optimistic. In practice, you will find it > > > rather challenging to upgrade from a version of Debian that has been > > > archi

Re: which blend caters to TaL computer programming? . . .

On 2018-03-14, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:01:19 AM Joe wrote: >> Actually, for some years I've kept in my jacket pocket the smallest >> external hard drive I've ever seen, which sadly was the end of its >> line. I haven't been able to find a replacement. >> >> It

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hi, Hans wrote: > IMO the Installation DVDs are rather usefull, because when they are read/ > writable, then he can easyly update them by using the famous "jigdo-lite". Urm, jigdo-lite can use the old ISOs as source for most packages of the new ISOs which it produces from new .jigdo and .template

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 16:19:23 +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 02:58:45PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 13:03:14 +, Joe wrote: > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > That's a wee bit overly optimistic. In practice, you will find it > > > > rather challenging to

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2018, 18:35:01 CET schrieb Thomas Schmitt: Hi Thomas, I do not agree with you. As far as I know (as my last creation was a long time ago), you can mount the dvd in jigdo, and then you will only need to download newer packages not existing on the dvd. All package versions, wh

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hi, Hans wrote: > As far as I know (as my last creation was a long time > ago), you can mount the dvd in jigdo, and then you will only need to download > newer packages not existing on the dvd. Yes. That's how it works. The result is a new ISO freshly produced by jigdo-lite and its main worker

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 22:00:00 (-0700), Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 13/03/18 02:49 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > >I also long avoided the complexity of LibreOffice Calc, but a modest > >investment of time has left me satisfied with the results. Things I like: > > > >- Flexible CSV import/export.

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Oh, this one you misunderstood. I just wantes to mention, that you can just burn the new iso on the dvd you read of before. So there is no need to buy a new one for every update of the installation dvd. Just overburn it. Saves money. After that you can safely delete the iso (I do so, as it is no

Re: Simple spreadsheet program.

On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 18:46:46 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 13.03.18 10:48, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 13 Mar 2018 at 21:31:00 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > Too true. After a couple of hours of failing to get any GUI drawing > > > package, not least LibreOffice, to do anythi

Re: update bios from debian

On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 03:38:58PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 09:22:06PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Hi, > > > sudo apt install grub-imageboot; > > sudo cp 7wuj43uc.iso /boot/images; > > sudo update-grub2; > > > > then reboot, and select the right cd image in your g

Firefox messages

Every time I run firefox on Debian (currently Jessie) I get 7 messages (firefox-esr:6975): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed (firefox-esr:6975): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed (firefox-esr:6975):

Re: No sound in Firefox

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Marc Shapiro wrote: I think that I'll keep my copy of Firefox v51.0.1 around for a while, until I am sure that I don't need to revert to it. I reopen this thread, as there are news issues with versions 58 and 59: with V58 + pulseaudio: no sound, no message with V59 + pu

Re: Firefox messages

On 2018-03-14 at 14:59, John wrote: > Every time I run firefox on Debian (currently Jessie) I get 7 > messages > (firefox-esr:6975): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion > 'object->ref_count > 0' failed > > (firefox-esr:6975): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion > '

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hi, Hans wrote: > I just wantes to mention, that you can just > burn the new iso on the dvd you read of before. Now we are in sync. > I love jigdo-lite. :) It needs some love to adapt to modern times. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=887837 "jigdo-lite: Final statement

Re: Debian v.9.2.1 DVDs - how long are they good for?

Hi, sorry, i gave the wrong URL for the checksum files which should contain sums for .jigdo and .template but do not. A correct URL would be e.g. https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-bd/SHA512SUMS (Classical copy+paste error. Of course https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd

Unstable Wayland in Debian Testing

Dear all, Debian Testing for now has a very unstable wayland. I have encountered dozens of crashes about current Wayland during those months. When I connect or disconnect an external screen monitor, usb driver, or even one phone, the desktop environment could crash. And then I login and found

Re: No sound in Firefox

On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: Wouldn't it render your system root-vulnerable to some malignant active content (JS)? of course, but I try to avoid URLs I don't know. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: > Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. > I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. > Now I need a similar icon. I went to the properties of the shortcut > expecting to be able to discover the lo

Re: quick scripting 'is /P/Q mounted'

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 03:56:00PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-03-13 at 15:39, Joe wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:49:56 +0100 wrote: > > That test can be spoofed, however, by the creation of a directory with > the same name (and/or other characteristics) under the mount point while

Re: Debian on flash a store.

On 03/14/18 00:28, Richard Hector wrote: On 14/03/18 15:35, David Christensen wrote: On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash drives that _are_ built for full-time use, as a system disk? I've got some old thin clients that c

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On 03/14/2018 06:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. Now I need a similar icon. I went to the properties of the shortcut

Re: Unstable Wayland in Debian Testing

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 06:22:03PM +, 慕 冬亮 wrote: > Dear all, > > Debian Testing for now has a very unstable wayland. I have encountered > dozens of crashes about current Wayland during those months. > > When I connect or disconnect an external screen monitor, usb driver, or > even one phon

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On 03/14/2018 05:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. Now I need a similar icon. I went to the properties of the shortcut e

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On 03/14/2018 07:30 PM, Frank M wrote: On 03/14/2018 06:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it display. Now I need a similar icon.

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 20:35:15 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/14/2018 05:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. > >>I had no trouble creating an appropriate png file and having it displa

Re: Help needed with home network configuration

On Fri 09 Mar 2018 at 12:31:35 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 09 March 2018 10:18:23 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > > For many years I have used my desktp as a network/firewall server > > > with two interfaces one facin

Re: Finding image file underlying an icon on Mate desktop

On Wed 14 Mar 2018 at 20:42:04 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/14/2018 07:30 PM, Frank M wrote: > > > > > >On 03/14/2018 06:30 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >>On 2018-03-14, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>>Several months ago I needed a fully custom desktop icon for a shortcut. > >>>I had no trouble

Re: Debian on flash a store.

On 15/03/18 13:11, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/14/18 00:28, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 14/03/18 15:35, David Christensen wrote: >>> On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash drives that _are_ built for full-time us

Re: Debian on flash a store.

On 03/14/18 20:17, Richard Hector wrote: On 15/03/18 13:11, David Christensen wrote: On 03/14/18 00:28, Richard Hector wrote: On 14/03/18 15:35, David Christensen wrote: On 03/13/18 17:00, Richard Hector wrote: Apologies for the diversion - does anyone know if there are USB flash drives that

Re: Help needed with home network configuration

On Wednesday 14 March 2018 22:24:26 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 09 Mar 2018 at 12:31:35 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 09 March 2018 10:18:23 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 04:30:53PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > > > For many years I have used my desktp

Re: Debian on flash a store.

On 15/03/18 18:01, David Christensen wrote: > That said, why do you have storage in a thin client?  I thought the idea > is to boot the clients over the network, run from RAM, and have the > server do most of the work (?). They were intended as thin clients - I'm not using them as such. I just use