Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread deloptes
Felix Miata wrote: > Didn't help. :-( can you open it in the browser

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Jeroen Mathon
Hey Richard, Perhaps it is just me but i am having trouble deciphering this sentence: "When booting one specific install I many repetitions to the effect that it is beginning a specific script." could you please elaborate upon it? On 01/10/2018 03:22 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot sev

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread john doe
On 1/11/2018 8:08 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Trying to get a non-broken recent version of mc, the instructions on https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ fail[1]. How can I get a non-broken relatively recent mc package installed, e.g. patched 4.8.19, or 4.8.20? Breakage was fixed 15 months ago[2].

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:52:00AM +0100, john doe wrote: > On 1/11/2018 8:08 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Trying to get a non-broken recent version of mc, the instructions on > > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ fail[1]. How can I get a > > non-broken > > relatively recent mc package inst

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 02:32 AM, Jeroen Mathon wrote: Hey Richard, Perhaps it is just me but i am having trouble deciphering this sentence: "When booting one specific install I many repetitions to the effect that it is beginning a specific script." could you please elaborate upon it? OOPS, typos and a

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-11 Thread Elisabetta Falivene
> > > > Thank you, it was "dep" indeed! > > Then remove those additional files, check that MODULES=most is set in > /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf, do a "update-initramfs -u -kall", > and you should be good to go. > The driver policy file? It is safe to just remove it? Btw, isn't a bit dange

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Elisabetta Falivene wrote: >>> Thank you, it was "dep" indeed! >> Then remove those additional files, check that MODULES=most is set in >> /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf, do a "update-initramfs -u -kall", >> and you should be good to go. > The driver policy file? It is safe to just remove i

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread Felix Miata
Sven Hoexter composed on 2018-01-11 10:08 (UTC+0100): > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:52:00AM +0100, john doe wrote: >> Felix Miata wrote: >> > Trying to get a non-broken recent version of mc, the instructions on >> > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ fail[1]. How can I get a >> > non-bro

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 07:35:59AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Hi, >I don't know what the intent is in the existence of: > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mc/mc_4.8.19-1_i386.deb & > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mc/mc-data_4.8.19-1_all.deb Those are the packages available

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-11 Thread Elisabetta Falivene
> > > > The driver policy file? It is safe to just remove it? > > Yes. It is a left-over from something. It is old and it is certainly not > needed, it is just annoying. > Ok > > I had it on my Wheezy systems and removed it during the upgrade to > Jessie, because it was causing the same problems

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 13:43:19 +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 07:35:59AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > Hi, > > >I don't know what the intent is in the existence of: > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mc/mc_4.8.19-1_i386.deb & > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/p

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, January 11, 2018 05:29:42 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > OOPS, typos and awkward phrasing. It should have read: > When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of the > line to the effect that it is beginning a specific script. > Did it give you the name of the specific

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 01:05:01AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Moreover, the simple zcat|cpio -i no longer works with stretch's initrd > > images.  They're in a different format, and you have to use > > lsinitramfs or unmkinitramfs to see or extract their contents. > > > >

Re: Why was this package removed but apt?

2018-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It was installed because CraftCMS depends on it :) Care to give some details? E.g. *how* was it installed, then? IIUC your system needs it, so the removal caused some breakage (which is why you noticed the issue). Normally APT only auto-removes packages which are marked as "automatically insta

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 07:26 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, January 11, 2018 05:29:42 AM Richard Owlett wrote: OOPS, typos and awkward phrasing. It should have read: When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of the line to the effect that it is beginning a specific scrip

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 09:36, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/11/2018 07:26 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 11, 2018 05:29:42 AM Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> OOPS, typos and awkward phrasing. It should have read: >>> When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions o

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Brian
On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 09:45:35 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > What init system are you running? > > Usually, this can be determined by 'dlocate /sbin/init', but I can't > guarantee that that will hold for all systems. Guaranteed: 'cat /proc/1/comm'. -- Brian.

Re: Why was this package removed but apt?

2018-01-11 Thread Jonathan Sélea
Well, it was removed by unattended-upgrades according to term.log and apt.log :) / Jonathan On 01/11/2018 03:35 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: It was installed manually by me: apt install php7.1-mbstring So I "explicitly asked" apt to install that package actually. So now the question is why/how

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 10:23, Brian wrote: > On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 09:45:35 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> What init system are you running? >> >> Usually, this can be determined by 'dlocate /sbin/init', but I can't >> guarantee that that will hold for all systems. > > Guaranteed: 'cat /proc/1/comm'

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:27:33AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-01-11 at 10:23, Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 09:45:35 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> What init system are you running? > >> > >> Usually, this can be determined by 'dlocate /sbin/init', but I can't > >> guar

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 10:35, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:27:33AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-01-11 at 10:23, Brian wrote: >>> Guaranteed: 'cat /proc/1/comm'. >> >> On my system: >> >> $ dlocate /sbin/init >> sysvinit-core: /sbin/init >> $ cat /proc/1/comm >> init >>

iwlwifi and symbols table

2018-01-11 Thread Rodary Jacques
Hi I just upgraded to Stretch. At boot I get a warning: " No symbols table" (actually it is in French: "pas de table des symboles"). Nevertheless everything works, except my access point: "modprobe iwlwifi.ko" can't find this module in the kernel directory, but this module is there. I remembe

[Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system. Would this be logged somewhere? Where? Specifics: sda1 - Always has the latest v

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 12:10, Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. > When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: >>> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. > > It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system. > Suggested diagnostics

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread bw
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. > When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: > > > Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. > > It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system. > Would this be logged s

Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-01-11 10:44 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-01-11 at 10:35, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> wooledg:~$ ls -l /sbin/init >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jul 5 2017 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd >> wooledg:~$ cat /proc/1/comm >> systemd > > So it's smart enough to bypass the name of the s

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 12:35, bw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-01-11 at 12:10, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> > I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. >> > When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: >> >>> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ..

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 11:35 AM, bw wrote: [snip] Sounds complicated, one version of grub but separate boot partitions always gets me confused too. Not sure best solution. But I'm used to it and have not discovered any potholes. YET ;/ I've had it that way since Squeeze in order to force update-grub to

Re: Kernel problem?

2018-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Wed 10 Jan 2018 at 19:48:57 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > deloptes composed on 2018-01-11 01:12 (UTC+0100): > > > David Wright wrote: > > >>> It seemed to install vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-686-pae (and associated config and > >>> image files, etc) in place of 4.9.0-4-686-pae versions.  Now the system >

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread deloptes
Brian wrote: > I can see what you are saying about mixing stable and unstable but don't > completely follow it in this case. Only mc and mc-data from unstable are > needed and the libraries on stable are sufficient to produce a working > mc. Are you suggesting these libraries could be subject to f

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-11 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > I don't actually know how many cpio archives are concatenated together > in that image.  At least two, obviously, with the first uncompressed > and the second gzipped. This kernel is custom, produced on one stretch system. On other stretch system another custom image is as

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. > When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: > >>Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. > It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system. […] > sda8 -

Re: Kernel problem?

2018-01-11 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2018-01-11 12:52 (UTC-0600): > On Wed 10 Jan 2018 at 19:48:57 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: >> deloptes composed on 2018-01-11 01:12 (UTC+0100): >> > David Wright wrote: >> >>> It seemed to install vmlinuz-4.9.0-5-686-pae (and associated config and >> >>> image files, etc

Re: 404 trying to use stretch/backports

2018-01-11 Thread Felix Miata
bw composed on 2018-01-11 14:44 (UTC-0500): > I wouldn't install mc from unstable or testing on stretch, BUT I do love > the program. I don't consider it broken at all, Running which version(s)? > and over the years it has > been well-maintained and I appreciate it. I use it all day every da

Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?)

2018-01-11 Thread Tim Hume
Hi everyone, I've encountered a strange problem where my keyboard layout/language changes when I'm typing. I'm running on Debian buster, upgraded with all the latest updates. But I think this problem has been around for a while (a few months at least). It is reproducible. 1. Open an xfce4-term

Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?)

2018-01-11 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Tim Hume wrote: > Has anyone else encountered this problem, and does anyone know a fix? Very interesting and no real idea how to fix it, but similar actions. I tried your pipe-space recipe, and it killed Tor, my connection to Gmail. (Re-connect Tor.) And the o

Re: Kernel problem?

2018-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 15:35:36 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2018-01-11 12:52 (UTC-0600): > > > On Wed 10 Jan 2018 at 19:48:57 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> deloptes composed on 2018-01-11 01:12 (UTC+0100): > > >> > David Wright wrote: > > >> >>> It seemed to insta

Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?)

2018-01-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Tim Hume wrote: > I've encountered a strange problem where my keyboard layout/language > changes when I'm typing. I'm running on Debian buster, upgraded with > all the latest updates. I'm not certain, but I wonder if you're accidentally hitting the layout switch key when you t

debian CD's DVD's

2018-01-11 Thread arne
Hi there! In the past it was possible to download debian cd's dvd's so one could have a full debian at home. Now this is not possible, I am missing some links? The jigdo files do not work nowadays too. The maximum debian you can get nowadays is 3 DVD's. The rule seems to be a fast internet connect

Re: debian CD's DVD's

2018-01-11 Thread David Christensen
On 01/11/18 20:17, arne wrote: In the past it was possible to download debian cd's dvd's so one could have a full debian at home. Now this is not possible, I am missing some links? The jigdo files do not work nowadays too. The maximum debian you can get nowadays is 3 DVD's. The rule seems to be a

Re: Kernel problem?

2018-01-11 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > That's right: deloptes claim was mistaken, which I pointed out > because errors of fact need correcting. > I didn't mean to mystify you (or anybody else). Sorry I agree with you, I also learned something, thanks.