Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:27:45AM +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Larry Dighera wrote: > > > Try: tput clear > > Right. My bad! I already did that. But I have always considered > `clear` and `tput clear` to be the

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2017-06-21 05:57, schrieb Avinash Sonawane: On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Larry Dighera wrote: Try: tput clear Right. My bad! I already did that. But I have always considered `clear` and `tput clear` to be the same so I didn't mention it before. Anyways I got exactly same behavior wit

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2017-06-21 10:06, schrieb Christian Seiler: 'clear' and 'tput clear' are identical in Stretch, both are from ncurses-bin. This was not true in Jessie though, ncurses did change behavior between Jessie and Stretch. By the way. in case anyone was wondering: Upstream changelog about how clear

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-06-20 17:20 +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote: > I just upgraded to Stretch from Jessie and I'm experiencing this weird > issue with xfce4-terminal. Whenever I type "clear" on terminal it > clears the terminal (that's expected!) *but* now I can scrollback only > a screenful. Earlier text n ter

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

2017-06-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
philwy...@kathenas.org wrote: >On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:43 +0300, Dalios wrote: >> On 06/21/2017 06:35 AM, sare...@att.net wrote: >> > The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install from a flash >> > drive. It boots >> > into the live desktop with no option to install to hard drive. The >> >

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

2017-06-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 06/21/2017 02:17 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: philwy...@kathenas.org wrote: On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:43 +0300, Dalios wrote: On 06/21/2017 06:35 AM, sare...@att.net wrote: The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install from a flash drive. It boots into the live desktop with no option to

Re: Superblock last write time is in the future.

2017-06-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.06.2017 um 07:43 schrieb Wellington Terumi Uemura: > RTC in local TZ: yes > > The bugreport show that this has been patched, anything else I could do > to stop running system check/clean every time I boot? I would set the system clock from LOCAL to UTC (see /etc/adjtime) -- Why is it t

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > I just want to add that every reasonable shell lets you clear the screen > while preserving the scrollback buffer, simply press Control-L. Thank you! I had completely forgotten the form feed! -- Avinash Sonawane (rootKea) PICT, Pune https:/

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Avinash Sonawane
First of all, thank you very much for that informative email! On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: > So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the > same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear' > wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer. This s

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, Am 2017-06-21 11:57, schrieb Avinash Sonawane: On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear' wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer. This suggests that t

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Avinash Sonawane
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: > So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the > same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear' > wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer. Furthermore, this also suggests that the 'clear' and 'tput clear' in

ISDB-Tb tuner cx23885 not working anymore

2017-06-21 Thread Wellington Terumi Uemura
It was working back in Debian 8, now looks like is broken... insmod /lib/modules/4.9.0-3-amd64/kernel/drivers/media/pci/cx23885/cx23885.ko card=33 lsmod|grep 23885 cx23885 176128 0 altera_ci 20480 1 cx23885 tda18271 49152 1 cx23885 altera_stapl

RE: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released!

2017-06-21 Thread Michael Milliman
-Original Message- From: Dalios [mailto:dal...@eumx.net] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:24 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released! On 06/18/2017 06:42 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-h

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

2017-06-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 03:39:42PM +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: > Furthermore, this also suggests that the 'clear' and 'tput clear' in > Stretch clear the scrollback buffer. But this isn't true either. > 'clear' or 'tput clear' doesn't c

Re: One problem identified - was [Re: ARandR problems: Bug or opderator?]

2017-06-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/20/2017 07:20 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 06/20/2017 05:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/18/2017 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/17/2017 03:02 PM, Curt wrote: On 2017-06-17, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using Debian Testing on a Lenovo T510 Thinkpad whose screen is too small and i

OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

2017-06-21 Thread Hans
Hi folks, sorry, to ask here, but I do not know where to ask else. Just a question: Is it possible, to build live-file systems with live-build for arm64 cpu's on an intel based system like i386 or amd64? And can I build amd64 live-file systems on an i386 system? And vice versa, is it possible

Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

2017-06-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 03:49:16PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > sorry, to ask here, but I do not know where to ask else. > > Just a question: Is it possible, to build live-file systems with live-build > for > arm64 cpu's on an intel based sy

Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

2017-06-21 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017, 16:01:31 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: Hi Tomas, thanks for this quick response. Well, I just do not want to compile something (however, I believe, some binary packages do this at installing, don't they?), just unpack packages to a chroot. But you may be right: The

Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

2017-06-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 04:11:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017, 16:01:31 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > Hi Tomas, > > thanks for this quick response. Well, I just do not want to compile something > (however, I believe, some bina

New live images released (9.0.1)

2017-06-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi folks, We found multiple issues in the live images released at the weekend. Since then, I've been working on fixes for the worst problems. I've just published a new set of images as 9.0.1. Here's a summary of the issues found, and current status: 1. KDE live desktop unstable on some (tested) h

no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread D. R. Evans
I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine. There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few "unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing that seemed dangerous, and the installation didn't complain about anything. But when I

Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Weinzierl
Hello, I have here an device with an touch-screen which can I use during the installation of Debian 9. But when the System is installed, I can't use the touch-device anymore. lsusb says that this is an eGalax-device. Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable? Stefa

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

2017-06-21 Thread Larry Dighera
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote: >Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable? Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.html

Re: pdf file is not read correctly

2017-06-21 Thread Abdelkader Belahcene
thanks a lot I think it is an encoding problem. When I open it in embedde pdf reader in firefox, the a print it as a pdf file I get same problem, but if I print it as a PS file, the problem is fixed and the display is correct. So the problem is in " pdf font" ? by the way pdf uses font? thanks

How To: Install Minimal KDE in Stretch

2017-06-21 Thread RavenLX
I've figured out how to install a *bare minimal* KDE in Stretch: 1. When installing Debian to your computer, do NOT select to install "Debian Desktop" or ANY desktop option. Instead, install print server and system base *only* (nothing else). Complete the install and reboot. 2. Log in at the

Re: pdf file is not read correctly

2017-06-21 Thread Fungi4All
From: abelahc...@gmail.com thanks a lot I think it is an encoding problem. When I open it in embedde pdf reader in firefox, the a print it as a pdf file I get same problem, but if I print it as a PS file, the problem is fixed and the display is correct. As far as I know this would make it a ps f

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Gian Carlo
Il 21/06/2017 18:00, D. R. Evans ha scritto: > I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine. > > There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few > "unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing > that seemed dangerous, and the in

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
Gian Carlo composed on 2017-06-21 21:05 (UTC+0200): . > What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"? > Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"? . ip is not included in a default Stretch install. Try 'ip a' -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Prover

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.06.2017 um 17:53 schrieb D. R. Evans: > I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine. > > There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few > "unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing > that seemed dangerous, and the ins

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

2017-06-21 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200 schreef Stefan Weinzierl : Hello, I have here an device with an touch-screen which can I use during the installation of Debian 9. But when the System is installed, I can't use the touch-device anymore. lsusb says that this is an eGalax-device. Can som

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

2017-06-21 Thread Stefan Weinzierl
On 21.06.2017 19:38, Larry Dighera wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote: Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable? Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.html I can't get the driver from this page running with Debian 9.

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread D. R. Evans
Gian Carlo wrote on 06/21/2017 01:05 PM: > What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"? It's too long to type it all. If you want some part of it, please let me know and I'll try to type it without too many mistakes. > Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"? eth0, eth1 and lo are the three n

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Felix Miata
D. R. Evans composed on 2017-06-21 14:20 (UTC-0600): . > eth0, eth1 and lo are the three named interfaces it returns. . > (Historically, eth0 is the one that has been actually been used, and it is > supposed to get an IP address via DHCP from my main server... . If eth0 is the name you wish used,

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

2017-06-21 Thread Floris
Op Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:08:54 +0200 schreef Stefan Weinzierl : On 21.06.2017 19:38, Larry Dighera wrote: On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote: Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable? Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.htm

Re: slow connections to non-bridged hostapd/dnsmasq wireless access point (was pointers to material...)

2017-06-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 07:40:49AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> (Now that I'm awake...) >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:55:11AM +090

apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread Mike McClain
When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: The following packages have been kept back: firefox-esr and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade iceweasel? Thanks, Mike -- As Andy Capp's wife said, "You're only young

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread Carl Fink
On 06/21/2017 04:56 PM, Mike McClain wrote: When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: The following packages have been kept back: firefox-esr and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade iceweasel? Have you tri

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread D. R. Evans
Felix Miata wrote on 06/21/2017 01:33 PM: > Gian Carlo composed on 2017-06-21 21:05 (UTC+0200): > . >> What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"? >> Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"? > . > ip is not included in a default Stretch install. Try 'ip a' > That command seems to give more or

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Fungi4All
My fix in such occassions has been to download in a medium commonly used (stick, common partition with a system that has net access) the .deb packages for connman and cmst and install them to the isolated system using dpkg, then reboot. Most likely whatever previous networking set-up there is con

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:56:45 -0700 Mike McClain wrote: > When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: > The following packages have been kept back: > firefox-esr > and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. > Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade > ic

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

2017-06-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
I found that to be the case and fixed it by adding missing information to /etc/network/interfaces. What was missing was the allow-hotplug line; wpa-ssid, wpa-psk On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Felix Miata wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:35:30 From: Felix Miata To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread davidson
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Mike McClain wrote: When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: The following packages have been kept back: firefox-esr and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade iceweasel? % man apt-get

flash in stretch again

2017-06-21 Thread Maureen L Thomas
I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch. That is all fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again. Is there any help out there for this program. I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and it won't work either. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am running on a

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

2017-06-21 Thread deloptes
Mike McClain wrote: > When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following: > The following packages have been kept back: > firefox-esr > and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade. > Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade > iceweasel? Thanks, > Mike > -- > As An

Re: flash in stretch again

2017-06-21 Thread deloptes
Maureen L Thomas wrote: > I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch. That is all > fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again. Is there any help out > there for this program. I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and > it won't work either. Any help would be greatly ap