Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 23 May 2017 at 22:19, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees > wrote: > > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek > > wrote: > > > > > > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread > > > about why there is no choice of inits duri

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 08:13:43AM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote: [...] > I am moved to tears by this. It is a tribute to human ingenuity, to > conflict resolution [...] Please. Either contribute something constructive or just shut up. This

Re: puppy Linux reports problems with USB/network drive

2017-05-24 Thread albcares
hi everybody since I'm periodically burning some installation-CD of various puppylinux, I want to ask a small question: have you ever thought of back-up-ing the usb and just format it again? ... or am I misunderstanding? 2017-05-23 21:33 GMT+02:00 Fungi4All : > Original Message ---

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2017 08:30:15 +0900 Joel Rees > wrote: > >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Bartek >> wrote: >> > >> > A while ago, I initiated the "If Linux Is About Choice ..." thread >> > about why there is no choice of inits du

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Re: phpmyadmin ... need help! UTC Time: May 23, 2017 8:18 PM From: j...@jretrading.com Yes, you've done it backwards, but it's no big deal in Debian. phpmyadmin needs the root password of mysql in order to install In all other systems it is a catastroph

Re: phpmyadmin ... need help!

2017-05-24 Thread Joe
On Wed, 24 May 2017 06:17:35 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: phpmyadmin ... need help! > UTC Time: May 23, 2017 8:18 PM > From: j...@jretrading.com > > Yes, you've done it backwards, but it's no big deal in Debian. > phpmyadmin needs the root password o

Dumb questions to apic

2017-05-24 Thread Hans
Dear list, this is a little bit offtopic. I got a broken notebook as a gift (did not start, no bios screen, nothing!). Now I managed to get it running again. Everything is working, execpt the bios. The bios is broken, and the backup battery is empty in seconds. But that is not the problem, just

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

2017-05-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-05-23, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions. However, this isn't an issue with the URL > in sources.list. I've tried the following: > > * installing using httpredir.debian.org (deb.debian.org isn't in the > list of mirrors in the installer) - same error results. * mo

Re: Dumb questions to apic

2017-05-24 Thread Tomaž Šolc
On 24. 05. 2017 13:04, Hans wrote: > "lapic" is local apic, but what is this? APIC is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller. This is not directly related to power management. Interrupt controller manages how the processor receives interrupts from peripherals. It seems unlikely that it could b

Re: Dumb questions to apic

2017-05-24 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 01:40:56PM +0200, Tomaž Šolc wrote: > On 24. 05. 2017 13:04, Hans wrote: > > "lapic" is local apic, but what is this? > > APIC is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller. This is not directly > related to power management. I

How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

2017-05-24 Thread Larry Dighera
I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso from https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ to a 16GB SD card, and was hoping to be able to insta

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 06:06:44PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Looking up 8086:22b1 finds the keyword Braswell, which provides the all > important date of introduction of it. It was introduced more than 8 months > after > Jessie, thus not supported by pure Jessie. > > Gnome *should* be working fi

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

2017-05-24 Thread err404
On 05/24/2017 02:16 PM, Larry Dighera wrote: > I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso ... > Is anyone able to offer a pointer to the method of installing to HDD from > the live USB image? > > ADVthanksANCE > Hello larry you need to boot from your usb stick: like this: https://www.deb

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then after some while starts to freeze badly making it unwatchabel. the output from inxi -c0 -G Graphics: Card: Intel Ato

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 07:52 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes I believe I dont have graphics > acceleration. My interface is sluggish. I believe I am playing video > with Totem, it has these mini freezes and then a

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, David. On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote: >> Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already >> contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices. > I'll cross my fingers for you. Please do likewise as these are > the figures from one of my laptops: >

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 07:57:17 -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, $HOME/.local/share/xorg -- Brian.

Re: Dumb questions to apic

2017-05-24 Thread Tomaž Šolc
On 24. 05. 2017 13:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I don't know for sure, but this thing from the Inertubes looks similar > (there it is apic, the OP is lapic, but the remaining phenomenology > looks similar. Perhaps a search on "power off apic" turns up more > relevant dirt :) Let me rephrase. In t

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

2017-05-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Larry Dighera wrote: > > I read on one of the Debian.com pages > > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/index.en.html , that there's supposed to be a > > "launcher on the desktop that can be used to install while running the live > > image." Unfortunately, I didn't find one. err...@free.fr wrote: >

Issue with SASL authentication

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi all! I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to authenticate, I get an error: -- root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel -- root@Wserver2:~# tes

Re: Dumb questions to apic

2017-05-24 Thread Hans
Hi Tomaž, > > LAPIC = Local Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller > (local refering to a CPU in a SMP system having its own controller) Yes, local, but what does local mean? Is it hardware related or local in the software? > ACPI and APM are system features directly related to power managem

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop? I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left from previous Jessie. swithching *dm is still a valid idea in this case? thanks a lot, On

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: May 24, 2017 2:12 PM From: anilduggir...@fastmail.fm hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8? I assume jessie was installed and th

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:34:22AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 > > [ 65.388] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian > 6th line down, is the new debian9rc installer same as Debian 8.8? > The official stretch installer

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

2017-05-24 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:16:49AM -0700, Larry Dighera wrote: > I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso > from > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote: > Charger in: > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380 > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000 > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380 > > Charger out: > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380 > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000 > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=828000 > > IOW m

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:45:16 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with > > sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than it was with Jessie. > > I hope you mean simple, and not tha

Re: How to Install to HDD from LIVE USB Flash Drive?

2017-05-24 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 10:54:27 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 05:16:49AM -0700, Larry Dighera wrote: > > I just burned Debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso > > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-lxde.iso > > fro

Trouble with Sierra Wireless MC7710 mSATA LTE Modem

2017-05-24 Thread Jonathan Marquardt
Hi! I am trying to get this thing working. Debian 8.8 on Lenovo ThinkPad X220 Originally, Linux seems to detect the thing but then does nothing with it. dmesg: ## [1.950070] usb 2-1.4: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 7 but max is

Re: Debian Developers Have Been Listening!

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 24 May 2017 at 16:22, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:45:16 -0500 David Wright > wrote: > > > On Tue 23 May 2017 at 13:42:07 (-0700), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > It's easier, simplistic even, to replace systemd as the init (with > > > sysvinit or runit-init) in Stretch than

Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background image. This does work, however, it has to be done each time you log-in. It is better than nothing. Ups

Re: Issue with SASL authentication

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi again. On 24/05/17 10:57, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to > authenticate, I get an error: > > -- > root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel > ---

Re: [A bit OT] Diagnosing home network

2017-05-24 Thread Brian
On Tue 23 May 2017 at 22:32:52 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, May 22, 2017 08:28:54 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > > >> Probably WPA2-PSK ("Pre Shared Key") -- just means "password auth". > >> TBH, not having the SSID transmitted is actually LESS secure (overall) >

stretch and cryptsetup/luks - boot delay

2017-05-24 Thread andy
hello - i recently upgraded my laptop from wheezy through jessie into stretch. almost everything Just Worked, which is great! one lingering problem is that there is a 1min 30sec delay in the boot after entering my passphrase. it reports: cryptsetup (sda5_crypt): set up successfully root: clean,

Re: Spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Tomaž Šolc
On 24. 05. 2017 00:04, Joel Rees wrote: > Only you can tell, from the headers, and from your own setup, whether the > junk-fraudmailers just spoofed your address or actually used your computer > to send it. For what is worth: a few hours ago I've received several mails that look similar. They are

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Anil Duggirala composed on 2017-05-24 09:12 (UTC-0500): > hello, I pasted my Xorg log at https://paste.debian.net/938243 > Fungi: this is an Asus X441SA laptop, is this also mix and match laptop? > I did a clean install from Debian installer of Stretch, nothing is left > from previous Jessie. > sw

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:38:38PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Given that that log contains no (EE) errors, switching to a different DE might > be a solution. Well, we knew that from the Subject: of the email. ;-) The message in the subject is unique to certain desktop environments, and indicates

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:00 (UTC-0400): > A more common suggestion might be to verify that all of the necessary > firmware has been installed, especially if some of it is from non-free. > dmesg | grep -i firmware Requested >20 hours ago: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/0

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 04:31:40PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > All my Stretch installations are using /var/log/ for Xorg.#.log whether I use > startx (with or without a DM running) or not. All my openSUSEes are, and even > my > Fedoras IIRC. In stretch, startx uses /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you run

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
Hello everyone, thanks for your responses. To recap, I installed a fresh Stretch with Gnome, that is all I have done so far. Felix: xorg-xserver-video-intel is installed and shows up in dpkg -l grep intel: ii libdrm-intel1:amd64 2.4.74-1 amd64

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 03:43:43PM -0500, Anil Duggirala wrote: > I have one more question, doing apt-get upgrade mentions > linux-image-amd64 is being "held back" I am currently on 4.9.0-2, could > this be related? You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64 kernel p

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 May 2017, Felix Miata wrote: > Once upon a time, Intel gfx did not need any firmware that was not part of a > default or minimal installation. :-( Nowadays it may actually requires BIOS/UEFI _and_ processor microcode updates as well. The BIOS/UEFI updates work around issues related to

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
I dont know if people are being misled by the title in this thread and I should start a new thread. Gnome is working in my laptop since I installed Stretch, it is just not working well. please read only my previous message to this one, thanks, On Wed, May 24, 2017, at 04:00 PM, Henrique de Moraes

Re: stretch and cryptsetup/luks - boot delay

2017-05-24 Thread deloptes
andy wrote: > i'm hoping i'm missing something obvious.  thanks in advance! > I don't know if I can help. I am still on jessie, but here are some thoughts > :: > /etc/crypttab > :: > sda5_crypt UUID=08d8147c-a06c-4746-827f-d720b1f5d738 none luks,discard What happens if

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2017-05-24 16:54 (UTC-0400): > You'll need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to bring in the 4.9.0-3-amd64 > kernel package, but I don't expect that will have any effect on your > current problem. Certainly possible. His kernel was compiled 30 March. -3 was compiled 3 May.

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Anil Duggirala
I am running the default Gnome player, Totem. I will install icewm when I am on a better connection, with dependencies, goes up to 48 MB. The following NEW packages will be installed: esound-common gconf-service gconf2 gconf2-common gnome-mime-data icewm icewm-common libaudiofile1 libbonobo2-0

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/24/2017 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/20/2017 09:31 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> [snip] The bug report also lists a workaround (which I haven't tried). >> The workaround is using the feh package to manually set the background >> image. This does work, however, it has t

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian > repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch. > Been working just fine, with its limitations. It's better than a black > desktop. :) I had

Re: Issue with SASL authentication

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi! On 24/05/17 15:37, Daniel Bareiro wrote: >> I am configuring SASL to authenticate against IMAP. When I try to >> authenticate, I get an error: >> >> -- >> root@Wserver2:~# saslpasswd2 -c daniel >>

Re: Clairification - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Milliman
On 05/24/2017 06:57 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 24 May 2017 at 17:28:52 (-0500), Michael Milliman wrote: > >> I installed and have been using feh as a stop-gap until the Debian >> repositories catch up to upstream and/or fix the problem in Stretch. >> Been working just fine, with its limita

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 10:04:00 (-0300), Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi, David. > > On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote: > > >> Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already > >> contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices. > > > I'll cross my fingers for

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, David. On 24/05/17 21:22, David Wright wrote: Yes, as I mentioned in another message in this thread, I have already contacted the supplier to go asking for availability and prices. >>> I'll cross my fingers for you. Please do likewise as these are >>> the figures from one of my lap

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 11:12:36 (-0400), Fungi4All wrote: > On 28/03/17 16:24, David Wright wrote: > > > Charger in: > > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380 > > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=872000 > > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=380 > > > > Charger out: > > POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN=380 >

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-05-24 Thread David Wright
On Wed 24 May 2017 at 21:50:20 (-0300), Daniel Bareiro wrote: > When you talk about "the numbers", do you mean to see by the console the > values that are obtained for both batteries (voltage, for example) to > make a comparison? Yes, the bash function I use is: battery () { local BATTERYF

Re: spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 73.617.583.28 Original Message Subject: Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_R

Re: spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
Here are the headers I got Return-Path: X-Original-To: fungil...@protonmail.com Received: from mail-io0-f176.google.com (mail-io0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail5i.protonmail.ch

Intresting dd fsck grub uuid fstab action

2017-05-24 Thread Fungi4All
I experimented in switching a clone of my sid installation to an experimental, that was the plan. Since I was doing other things I thought I'll let the cloning take place unattended. Let's say sda5/6/7/8/9 were to be cloned to sdb5-9 (5 / 6 var 7 sw 8 tmp 9 home) all b partitions were slightly l

Re: spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Christian Hinch
That's weird. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM Fungi4All wrote: > Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a > response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch > > Re: yoshifanc_You_Qualify_for_Window_Replacemen_Rebates!_HQXL 73.617.583.28 > > Original

Re: Live Fille System Backup

2017-05-24 Thread Sergei G
thank you for mentioning bup. That's a great option I am considering. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I would like a backup tool that does not bring a million dependencies > with > > MBs of files. Something that works on server without X Windows and can > > send back

Re: spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Christian Hinch wrote: > That's weird. No, it's marketing. Tailored unrequested junk mail. Once you give in to having to send messages one at a time, it isn't hard to fake a response to a faked message, in the hopes of bringing more uncautious people to drive by

Re: Oh no something has gone wrong! after reinstalling Debian and Gnome.

2017-05-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/24/2017 08:57 AM, Anil Duggirala wrote: Oh, and also, I did not find /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Please don't top post. You don't see anyone else doing that do you?? Take a clue. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance,

Re: spammers go personal

2017-05-24 Thread Christian Hinch
I know *I'm* not a spammer. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:04 PM Christian Hinch wrote: > That's weird. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:44 PM Fungi4All > wrote: > >> Well I did not get the message myself to see the headers but I got a >> response to what appeared to be my spam by Christian Hinch >> >>