Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

2017-03-31 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 08:56:25PM +0100, Terence wrote: > Lisi asks "And is London "up" or "down"from York?" > > London is "up". "Up trains" were those travelling to London terminii, "Down > trains" departed from London terminii to other parts of the rail network. That's an interesting, if histo

Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system

2017-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
Felix Miata composed on 2017-03-31 02:22 (UTC-0400): [xserver-xorg-video-mga is a user-space graphics driver] ... If all the above doesn't help, repeat it, but append "iomem=relaxed" to the line that included video and/or vesa and/or vga... This showed up on vtty when I did dist-upgrade from je

Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation

2017-03-31 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-30, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > I'm connected via Ethernet so all my computers can use the device. Call > me old fashioned: I've been using Ethernet since the '80s and I trust > the security of wires rather more than wireless. > This may be of little interest to anyone but that has

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

2017-03-31 Thread Terence
There is no ambiguity if (as I have always understood) "Thursday" means "this (or the coming) Thursday" and "next Thursday" or "Thursday next" means "a week on Thursday". And having lived in Yorkshire for two very happy years, I would agree that York is above London in so many ways... Terence On

Re: why??why?why??

2017-03-31 Thread cbannister
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 05:57:19PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 02:09:22AM +, Shahryar Afifi wrote: [some stuff] > > This is yet another of those threads where the OP never returns after > dropping their troll bomb... the only why oh why here is why oh why do > we

Re: Deb-Installer: Possible to set IP using a boot parameter?

2017-03-31 Thread Ron Leach
On 28/03/2017 18:15, Brian wrote: Any combination of preseed directives can be used as boot parameters. For example: netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.1.42. AFAIK, not on the website. You can generate all the preseed options for yourself. Search the wiki for "preseed". Brian, thanks for the rep

should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread cbannister
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:58:15PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/13/2017 05:38 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > >Currently, the system here is > > > > - every PC has a cronjob backing up $HOME to a central "server" (read - > > repurposed PC with decent WD drives), just an rsync script that runs

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
>My understanding is that if there are no services listening on a port >then >it cannot be accessed. Well, if nothing is listening on a port, then something can start doing so unconditionally. That's how w^Hsomeone rooted Dreamhost. -nik

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 01:00:45AM +1300, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: [...] > My understanding is that if there are no services listening on a port then > it cannot be accessed. > > e.g. > > http://serverfault.com/questions/733633/if-no-servi

OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 31, 2017 06:30:25 AM Terence wrote: > There is no ambiguity if (as I have always understood) "Thursday" means > "this (or the coming) Thursday" and "next Thursday" or "Thursday next" > means "a week on Thursday". > > And having lived in Yorkshire for two very happy years, I would

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread Brian
On Fri 31 Mar 2017 at 14:18:04 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 01:00:45AM +1300, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > [...] > > > My understanding is that if there are no services listening on a port then > > it cannot be accessed. > > > > e.g. > > > > http://serverfa

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 02:17:35PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 31 Mar 2017 at 14:18:04 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 01:00:45AM +1300, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > My understanding is that

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
>If someone unauthorised is on your machine can they not just as well >remove firewall rules? Well, not without getting root first. And making something listen that spawns a shell usable to gain further access is a big win. Keeping uploading PHP code to some vulnerable webserver will at some p

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday before last Thursday". > > To specify the Thursday after the coming Thursday, use something like: "the > Thursday after next Thursday". Great - all fin

Re: ipv6 apt issue

2017-03-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 01:24:39PM -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I've got a dual stack host and when doing various apt-y things I attempt to > connect to: > > # apt update > 0% [Connecting to ftp-chi.osuosl.org (2600:3402:200:227::2) > > but it hangs and doesn't seem to complete its connec

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
>Well, not without getting root first. > >And making something listen that spawns a shell usable to gain further >access is a big win. Keeping uploading PHP code to some vulnerable >webserver will at some point be noticed. Uploading something spawning a >shell once probably not. > When $someone ha

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 02:34:26PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Great - all fine in theory. But you try announcing a meeting that way!!! > Here in England we debate it, meaning that I and my husband disagree. When I > say "next Thursday", I mean the Thursday next week. When he says next > Thur

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:34:26 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: > > "the Thursday before last Thursday". > > > > To specify the Thursday after the coming Thursday, use som

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:45:59 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 02:34:26PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Great - all fine in theory. But you try announcing a meeting that way!!! > > Here in England we debate it, meaning that I and my husband disagree. > > When I say "next Thur

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Friday, 31 March 2017 10:18:24 -04 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:45:59 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 02:34:26PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Great - all fine in theory. But you try announcing a meeting that > > > way!!! > > > Here in England we

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
I tried "aptitude install Thursday" and that failed miserably. Then I tried with `apt-get`: same result. The worst part is that I get the same kinds of failures when I try "aptitude install this Thursday" or "aptitude install next Thursday". Stefan "confused about this Debian thing" >>

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 31 March 2017 15:15:46 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Friday, March 31, 2017 09:34:26 AM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: > > > "the Thursday before last Thursday".

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 31 March 2017 15:43:50 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I tried "aptitude install Thursday" and that failed miserably. > Then I tried with `apt-get`: same result. > > The worst part is that I get the same kinds of failures when I try > "aptitude install this Thursday" or "aptitude install next Thu

Re: why??why?why??

2017-03-31 Thread Reco
On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 23:50:12 +1300 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 05:57:19PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 02:09:22AM +, Shahryar Afifi wrote: > > [some stuff] > > > > > This is yet another of those threads where the OP never returns af

glade3, no progress in making it work like glade2?

2017-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; There was at one time, quite an extensive list of video widgits for the glade2 environment, but when gtk2 went to gtk3, the only thing that was brought forward was the designer and a small list of mostly text oriented stuff, leaving out in glade-3.12.1, all the stuff needed to m

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Friday, 31 March 2017 10:43:50 -04 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I tried "aptitude install Thursday" and that failed miserably. > Then I tried with `apt-get`: same result. > > The worst part is that I get the same kinds of failures when I try > "aptitude install this Thursday" or "aptitude install ne

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 31/03/17 14:34, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 31 March 2017 14:04:03 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> To specify the Thursday before the last Thursday, use something like: "the >> Thursday before last Thursday". >> >> To specify the Thursday after the coming Thursday, use something like: "the >> Thu

unattended upgrades does not do anything

2017-03-31 Thread Gregor Zattler
Dear fellow debian users, this is about a debian stable (=jessie) system and it does not upgrade unattended and I have no clue how to debug this: It's configured for jessie repositories: # egrep -v "(^[[:space:]]*[#;\\])|^[[:space:]]*$" sources.list deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ jessie ma

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.) (was: Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt)

2017-03-31 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > For whatever it's worth, here in Ohio, "next Thursday" would mean the > Thursday that occurs in the next calendar week. "This Thursday" means > the Thursday that occurs (or occurred) in the current calendar week, > though you'd need to use the past tense wh

Recording needed data from mate-search-tool - possible?

2017-03-31 Thread Richard Owlett
I am using Jessie with MATE desktop. I search for a string within a filename OR folder name. I must distinguish between files, folders and links to either. "Applications->Accessories->Search for files" will DISPLAY the data. *HOWEVER* attempting to record the data yields obfuscated data: ITEM NO

strange problem with chromium

2017-03-31 Thread Bernard
Hi to Everyone, Every time I start my newly installed Chromium (on Ubuntu 14.04), I get this warning message below. I have to cancel it twice before the app starts to work normally. translated from French : 'Please type your password to unlock connection tool kit. The pasword you are using f

Re: Deb-Installer: Possible to set IP using a boot parameter?

2017-03-31 Thread Doug
On 03/31/2017 07:20 AM, Ron Leach wrote: On 28/03/2017 18:15, Brian wrote: Any combination of preseed directives can be used as boot parameters. For example: netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.1.42. AFAIK, not on the website. You can generate all the preseed options for yourself. Search the wiki f

debugging TLS alert

2017-03-31 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I'm trying to use exim4 to send email to another site. My host connects, negotiates a TLS connection and sends what seems to be a reasonable amount of application data. I then get an encrypted alert from the other host, the connection shuts down, and the email doesn't get delivered. I don't get

Re: strange problem with chromium

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > […] on Ubuntu 14.04 […] Any chance you chose the wrong mailing list? Cheers, Nik -- PGP-Fingerprint: 3C9D 54A4 7575 C026 FB17 FD26 B79A 3C16 A0C4 F296 Dominik George · Hundeshagenstr. 26 · 53225 Bonn Mobile: +49-1520-1981389 · https://www.dominik-george.de/ Teckids e.V. · FrOSCon e.V.

Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

2017-03-31 Thread Sharon Kimble
Since an upgrade on 2017-03-28 my debian Jessie system is continuously dropping my soundcard such that mpd and mpv have no sound at all, but, at this time qmmp and mplayer2 both have sound and work as they should. My sound card is an on-board chip here - --8<---cut here--

Re: debugging TLS alert

2017-03-31 Thread Brian
On Fri 31 Mar 2017 at 11:53:27 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > I'm trying to use exim4 to send email to another site. My host Which site? > connects, negotiates a TLS connection and sends what seems to be a > reasonable amount of application data. Exim sends something? What is "application data"?

Re: strange problem with chromium

2017-03-31 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 3/31/17, Dominik George wrote: > Hi, > >> […] on Ubuntu 14.04 […] > > Any chance you chose the wrong mailing list? I missed that part when I skimmed the email. Am writing to say that I am experiencing something similar *occasionally* on Debian Stretch. Was seeing it on Jessie, too. I'll grab

Re: Wan/Lan problem [SOLVED]

2017-03-31 Thread Mike McClain
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:40:29PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On March 30, 2017 8:27:54 PM EDT, Mike McClain > wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:25:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > >> On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain > > wrote: > > > >If I'm understanding you you're sa

Re: should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 02:07:54PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > > That's how w^Hsomeone rooted Dreamhost. > > Are you referring to the 2012 incident, or something more recent? > > I thought the former was an issue with lax filesystem permissions. (This is getting somewhat OT; if you want to

Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system

2017-03-31 Thread Tony Stoneley
Felix Miata wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:22:10 -0400 >Your goal is to boot without Plymouth and without framebuffer, in >80x25 mode, to give Xorg the best possible chance to work as expect. >If Plymouth is installed, purge it. > >To proceed, hit the e key when the Grub menu appears, then remove

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread kAt
Lisi Reisz: > And let us clear up another misunderstanding while we are at it. The other > side of the pond you appear to be under a delusion that there is such a thing > as British anything, including English. Try telling that to the Welsh, the > Irish and the Scots! There is nevertheless

Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system

2017-03-31 Thread Felix Miata
Tony Stoneley composed on 2017-03-31 22:20 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata wrote on Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:22:10 -0400 It may be time for you to ask for help from the devs, using the debian-devel mailing list or one of the freedesktop.org Xorg mailing lists, or by filing a Debian bug. Yes, perhaps, i

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread kAt
Curt: > Trouble with you people is you don't get out on some of the other days > of the week. Us people who? >> English is hilarious It must be the only language in the world that you can adequately communicate with a vocabulary of less than 400 words including grammatical forms of the same root

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread kAt
Eike Lantzsch: > it is e.g.: > date -d thursday > or: > date -d next-thursday > or: > date --date='TZ="America/Asuncion" 09:00 next Thu' > or > calendar -w -t 20170406 TZ='London' date | grep "Universal Time"

Re: OT: speaking of days (weeks, months, years, etc.)

2017-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 31 March 2017 22:53:00 kAt wrote: > As there is a domination of the > industrial North and elitism against the dominated South. Not here The non-industrial white collar south-east dominates the industrial north economically. The Northern Powerhub is so far a figment of the politi

Firewall Builder firewall for a "pull" backup server

2017-03-31 Thread David Christensen
On 03/13/2017 08:58 PM, David Christensen wrote: > With a "pull" arrangement (e.g. the server backs up all the > workstations) -- if a workstation gets compromised, the backups should > be safe (and might have clues about the intrusion). On 03/17/2017 10:16 PM, David Christensen wrote: > The back

MATE in /usr AND in /usr/local

2017-03-31 Thread David Griffith
I'm interested in tinkering with components of MATE and testing them while leaving the APT-installed versions alone. I've built and installed the components from the Github repos and installed them to /usr/local/. I can't figure out how to load applets from /usr/local. In particular, can some

April's fool

2017-03-31 Thread Beco
Hi guys, I admin a server with some 80 users (students) and tomorrow is april's fool. Now, help me out... What is a "reversible" prank I could play? * It should be easy to make it working in some minutes (half an hour of configuration at most). * It should be harmless and reversible (of course)

Re: April's fool

2017-03-31 Thread Dominik George
>* It should be easy to make it working in some minutes (half an hour of >configuration at most). >* It should be harmless and reversible (of course) >* It should last the whole day, people trying to figure that out. # apt install sl # ln -s /bin/ls /usr/local/bin/sl # ln -s /usr/games/sl /usr/loc