Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 02/09/2017 07:27 AM, Bob Bernstein wrote: > When I boot my Jessie it brings me, as desired, to a bash command line > prompt (no X at this stage of the game). > > If I then launch the jed editor (or emacs -nw) from that prompt, > pressing Alt-x on the keyboard, produces the M-x prompt where jed

Re: Automatically spoof MAC address when interface is brought down

2017-02-09 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 8. Februar 2017, 16:26:35 CET schrieb commentsab...@riseup.net: Hi! Try package "macchanger". Best Hans > Hello, > > I am a Debian 8.7 user. > I use the default Network Manager. > > I would like to know if there is a way to automatically spoof the MAC > address of my wireless inte

Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
It may seem silly to most of you but not very clear. If in the synaptic repository list one has used testing in Jessie by now the system has converted fully (99.99%) to Debian 9 Stretch. Right? When the official release comes and Stretch becomes stable, will the system upgrade automatically to w

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the MTUs > > On the: MTU is: > WAN VC1540 > Ethernet 1500 > Yuck. Hate it when people start mucking around with MTUs ... -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github:

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > But I do have two quick comments: > > 1. I am definitely comparing the IN on one side of the modem to the > OUT on the other, and Okay, good (people misinterpret the directions a lot ;) ) > > 2. I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the > > MTUs > > > > On the: MTU is: > > WAN VC1540 > > Ethernet 1500 > > Yuck. Hate it when people start mucking ar

Re: HELP! Re: How to fix I/O errors?

2017-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 06:06:34PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > Careful there, I would not copy any of the /home/username/dot-files or > dot directories over, except like .mozilla and .thunderbird, so you > don't carry over some old and crufty setting that might have been > problematic. I have the

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:00:15AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the > > > MTUs >

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 12:29:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > It may seem silly to most of you but not very clear. If in the synaptic > repository list one has used testing in Jessie What?! > by now the system has > converted fully (99.99%) to Debian 9 Stretch. Right? If you want to run stret

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Teemu Likonen
Bob Bernstein [2017-02-09 01:27:09-05] wrote: > I then can enter startx and arrive in my desired icewm X desktop, I can > then launch an xterm and, in it, jed, or emacs. But only Esc-x on the > keyboard produces the wanted M-x prompt these editors. To control that meta key feature in XTerm add th

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017, Teemu Likonen wrote: In XTerm you can also toggle that feature by pressing Ctrl and left mouse button and select "Meta Sends Escape". Wonderful! Works like a charm! I will add to my .Xresources because at my um advanced years um I can quickly forget a little wrinkle like

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
You forgot to reply to the list. You forgot to stop top-quoting. This is a real mailing list, not your workplace where you have to do everything upside-down. On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 02:20:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > So the location of the ***debian.org/ does not ever change, it remains > th

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:36:50 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > 2. I'm sure that I'm looking at the download flows from my ISP as the > > ratio of the octets / bytes between the two flows is generally > > something like 10 to 1. I'm sure that I am not uploading 10 t

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Purgert
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 09, 2017 07:21:58 AM Dan Purgert wrote: >> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> > I noticed today that those statistics pages do tell me the size of the >> > MTUs >> > >> > On the: MTU is: >> > WAN VC1540 >> > Ethernet 1500 >> >> Yuck.

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Please cool off, I don't see the need for a flame war. Greg Wooledge: > You forgot to reply to the list. Maybe I was replying to you > You forgot to stop top-quoting. This is a real mailing list, not your > workplace where you have to do everything upside-down. That would be correct if I had r

Re: Why packets (from my ISP to me) on the WAN VC side of my router are twice the size of packets on the Ethernet (and a corresponding twice as many bytes)

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Old India like new india and oceania are all old British colonies, no native English speakers there. Ask the Scots and the Irish to tell you all about their native languages. rhkra...@gmail.com: > I have to be ready to deal with the support people in > India--IIRC from last time, I can insist on

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Katrin. On 09/02/17 13:09, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> Here is a jessie source: >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib >> Here is a stretch source: >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free > But I have http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ test

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 February 2017 16:28:39 Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi, Katrin. > > On 09/02/17 13:09, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > >> Here is a jessie source: > >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib > >> Here is a stretch source: > >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch m

Re: Keys management (SSH, GPG)

2017-02-09 Thread Shin Ice
Hi, Am 09.02.17 um 01:20 schrieb commentsab...@riseup.net: > Hello, > > I am a Debian 8.7 user. > > > # SSH > > I would like to know if there is an efficient way to manage SSH keys? > > I have multiple SSH keys (rsa, ed25519) that I use all day long to > either connect to servers via ssh or t

Re: HELP! Re: How to fix I/O errors?

2017-02-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/09/2017 08:10 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 06:06:34PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: Careful there, I would not copy any of the /home/username/dot-files or dot directories over, except like .mozilla and .thunderbird, so you don't carry over some old and crufty setting that mig

Re: HELP! Re: How to fix I/O errors?

2017-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 12:03:18PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > How so?? Don't "many other operating systems" have different > configuration files in many other locations?? I wouldn't expect BSD > config files to migrate to Linux, or Windows to do anything useful. When I shared my $HOME between Ope

cpufreq changes unwanted

2017-02-09 Thread Hans
Hello list, I discovered, that the cpu frequency is been set automatically to "high", although I forced it to stay low. To do this, I wrote a script: --- #!/bin/sh cpufreq-set -c 0 -u 1000MHz cpufreq-set -c 1 -u 1000MHz --- This script, executed with root permissions, is setting the cpu frequ

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Feb 2017 at 16:09:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote: > I hope you do see now that I would have to change, if not, I still did > not understand what you are saying. If testing is already in there (and > has been for a while) and I update weekly once stretch is released I > will be in nowhere-

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > So let's start at the beginning. OK > What exactly does your sources.list currently say? (/etc/apt/sources.list) > Please copy and paste it. I deleted the headers # ... deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main de

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 04:09:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > PS I am on the "users" list right, not the "sysadmins" list? People will tell you that the basic UNIX philosophy is that tools should be small and usable as filters in a pipe chain; there's something to that. But it isn't really ba

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread David Wright
On Thu 09 Feb 2017 at 17:51:00 (+), GiaThnYgeia wrote: > A while back I read somewhere to go from stable to testing I replace > jessie with testing in the repos lines and I did and it worked. > > The Debian 7 pc stayed this way, I used it as an example that if I had > switched it to testing o

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-02-09 15:38 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Bob Bernstein [2017-02-09 01:27:09-05] wrote: > >> I then can enter startx and arrive in my desired icewm X desktop, I can >> then launch an xterm and, in it, jed, or emacs. But only Esc-x on the >> keyboard produces the wanted M-x prompt these edi

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 February 2017 17:51:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Lisi Reisz: > > So let's start at the beginning. > > OK > > > What exactly does your sources.list currently say? > > (/etc/apt/sources.list) Please copy and paste it. > > I deleted the headers # ... > > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/deb

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Teemu Likonen
Sven Joachim [2017-02-09 19:38:13+01] wrote: > On 2017-02-09 15:38 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true > Another possibility is to use the resource > > XTerm*eightBitInput: false > > Probably we should change the default for one of these. See the lengthy > discussion i

Re: Keys management (SSH, GPG)

2017-02-09 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
On 2/9/2017 11:59 AM, Shin Ice wrote: > Hi, > > Am 09.02.17 um 01:20 schrieb commentsab...@riseup.net: >> Hello, >> >> I am a Debian 8.7 user. >> >> >> # SSH >> >> I would like to know if there is an efficient way to manage SSH keys? >> >> I have multiple SSH keys (rsa, ed25519) that I use all day

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 02/09/2017 à 21:10, Teemu Likonen a écrit : > Sven Joachim [2017-02-09 19:38:13+01] wrote: > >> On 2017-02-09 15:38 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: >>> XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true > >> Another possibility is to use the resource >> >> XTerm*eightBitInput: false >> >> Probably we should change t

Re: cpufreq changes unwanted

2017-02-09 Thread David Christensen
On 02/09/17 09:16, Hans wrote: I discovered, that the cpu frequency is been set automatically to "high", although I forced it to stay low. To do this, I wrote a script: --- #!/bin/sh cpufreq-set -c 0 -u 1000MHz cpufreq-set -c 1 -u 1000MHz --- This script, executed with root permissions, is se

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Feb 2017 at 18:58:34 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 February 2017 17:51:00 GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > Lisi Reisz: > > > So let's start at the beginning. > > > > OK > > > > > What exactly does your sources.list currently say? > > > (/etc/apt/sources.list) Please copy and paste it.

Re: Once again: alt as my meta key

2017-02-09 Thread Teemu Likonen
Erwan David [2017-02-09 21:20:45+01] wrote: > Le 02/09/2017 à 21:10, Teemu Likonen a écrit : >> And I'd support that change. I have had metaSendsEscape in >> .Xresources forever but for new users and for consistency with other >> terminals and Linux console it would be good to make it default. >

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:46:14PM +, Brian wrote: > Mind you, stable is Jessie and Jessie > is stable. It's only testing/whatever you have to be careful about. "jessie" and "stable" are synonymous for the moment, but that will not continue indefinitely into the future. When stretch releases,

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Brian
On Thu 09 Feb 2017 at 15:48:57 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 08:46:14PM +, Brian wrote: > > Mind you, stable is Jessie and Jessie > > is stable. It's only testing/whatever you have to be careful about. > > "jessie" and "stable" are synonymous for the moment, but that w

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 February 2017 20:46:14 Brian wrote: > Sid is unstable and unstable is Sid. It doesn't matter which one > is chosen to be in sources.list. Agreed. But I like patterns. ;-) > Mind you, stable is Jessie and Jessie > is stable. It's only testing/whatever you have to be careful about

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Joel Rees
Hi, Greg, On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 12:29:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: >> It may seem silly to most of you but not very clear. If in the synaptic >> repository list one has used testing in Jessie > > What?! > >> by now the system has >> con

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 2:51 AM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > [...] > The Debian 7 pc stayed this way, I used it as an example that if I had > switched it to testing on wheezy would I be in stretch now? And I > assume the answer would be yes unless I again misunderstand how it works. Maybe, if you had d

Re: Stretch stable and jessie testing - repositories listed

2017-02-09 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Lisi Reisz: > Right, so if you wish to remain on Stretch, which I think you do, replace the > word testing with the name stretch in all 4 of those lines. Then update - > however you do that in Synaptic. Ok thank you, I think it worked. I reloaded and no packages needed any updating. A quick

dual-boot install question

2017-02-09 Thread Lori .
Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on it. So when I partitioned one of my disk

Re: dual-boot install question

2017-02-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 20:11:55 -0500 "Lori ." wrote: > Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of > Debian > 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell > laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free > space. I have a FAT32 usb stic

Re: dual-boot install question

2017-02-09 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote: Hello, I've been having some problematic issues with the install of Debian 8. I'm trying to do a so called "Dual-Boot" with my Windows 10 dell laptop. I've partitioned my disk and shrunk it to 125gb of free space. I have a FAT32 usb stick that holds 16gb on i

Re: dual-boot install question

2017-02-09 Thread Doug
On 02/09/2017 10:24 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 02/09/2017 05:11 PM, Lori . wrote: /snip/ I'm really confused, if you can and or have the time please guide me for the Dual Boot installation process. I've been a big follower of Debian Linux for 3 years. I don't know why this time I'm having