Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 07:51:45AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: [...] > - does the sender know their mail was not delivered and do they get a > reasonable explanation? I've heard there are spam filters who give a > "user doesn't exist" error which is

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Sven Hartge
Daniel Pocock wrote: > A key point to consider for any filtering is the user experience when a > legitimate message is not delivered. > This includes the following: > - does the sender know their mail was not delivered and do they get a > reasonable explanation? I've heard there are spam filte

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Sven Hartge
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 07:51:45AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> - does the sender know their mail was not delivered and do they get a >> reasonable explanation? I've heard there are spam filters who give a >> "user doesn't exist" error which is somewhat disrespectful t

Black screen after exiting X

2016-12-16 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all Debian user. After logging out X (I have Openbox as window manager) with Ctrl-alt-Backspace (or also mouse right-clicking), tty1 is completely obscured and then I have to do Alt-F2 (so going to tty2) and Alt-F1 and then I see tty1. In Google I found many similar problems but of no help to

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:16:03AM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 07:51:45AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > >> - does the sender know their mail was not delivered and do they get a > >> reasonable expl

Re: Installing Tetex packages now

2016-12-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 01:18:07PM +1100, terryc wrote: > What is the simple procedure to install additional Tetex packages now? > > Been about 2000 since I used LaTeX a lot and I find that wrapfig is > the way to wrap text around a figure these days, so I'd like to use it. Back then, tetex was t

Re: Installing Tetex packages now

2016-12-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:21:26AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 01:18:07PM +1100, terryc wrote: > > What is the simple procedure to install additional Tetex packages now? > > > > Been about 2000 since I used LaTeX a lot and

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-12-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-12-07 23:45:24 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 07 December 2016 14:55:40 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-10-13 00:09:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 07 October 2016 15:43:17 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > On 2016-10-04 22:51:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > On Tu

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-12-15 10:41:58 +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > Next is a check if the sending IP resolves correctly and the hostname > resolves back to this IP. I wonder whether this rule should really be used. A hostname may resolve to multiple IP's, and for some reasons, the origin

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Sven Hartge
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-12-15 10:41:58 +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Next is a check if the sending IP resolves correctly and the hostname >> resolves back to this IP. > > I wonder whether this rule should really be used. A hostname may > resolve to multiple IP

gpg-agent on stretch?

2016-12-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello, I have two stretch installs; on one, gpg-agent launches at startup, on the other it does not. I would like it to on both. I have checked the following: ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf and ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf match, and have “use-agent” systemd has a gpg.service The behavior I want is to not hav

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 13:05:35 +0100 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-12-15 10:41:58 +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > > Next is a check if the sending IP resolves correctly and the > > hostname resolves back to this IP. > > I wonder whether this rule should really be used. A

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-12-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:40:29 +0100 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-12-07 23:45:24 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 December 2016 14:55:40 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2016-10-13 00:09:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 07 October 2016 15:43:17 Vincent Lefevre wrote:

Re: proftpd in testing

2016-12-16 Thread Florian Lindner
Am 11.12.2016 um 15:31 schrieb Floris: > Op Sun, 11 Dec 2016 12:02:02 +0100 schreef Florian Lindner > : > >> Hello, >> >> I'm currently doing a re-setup of my server on Debian Testing. My old >> server, which is on oldstable used proftpd as FTP server. >> >> https://packages.debian.org/search?sear

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-12-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Dec 2016 at 12:40:29 (+0100), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-12-07 23:45:24 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 December 2016 14:55:40 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2016-10-13 00:09:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 07 October 2016 15:43:17 Vincent Lefevre wrote:

Predictable Network Interface Names prevents WiFi connections.

2016-12-16 Thread Miguel A. Vallejo
Hello. I'm having a weird problem with my Debian testing installation. I use KDE Plasma 5 and NetworkManager in a up-to-date system. The problem is I can't connect to any wifi if Predictable Network Interface Names are in use. I can see all wireless networks in Network Manager, so I select mine,

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 December 2016 09:58:36 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > At least in the case of delivery to the SPAM box the mail has been > > actually delivered to the user. > > "Technically", yes. No, not just technically. Actually. The recipient then has the choice whether to ignore it or not. > > >

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:55:32 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > The fact that some people do not know > enough to use Spam folders differently from deleted mail is not a > reason why the rest of us should have our email dropped. > The reason why your mail gets dropped is that it cannot accurately be id

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 December 2016 21:19:45 Joe wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:55:32 + > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > The fact that some people do not know > > enough to use Spam folders differently from deleted mail is not a > > reason why the rest of us should have our email dropped. > > The reason why

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 09:31:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 16 December 2016 21:19:45 Joe wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:55:32 + > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > You have over-cut. Here is what you cut, which is highly relevant:

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Dec 2016 at 22:40:01 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 09:31:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 16 December 2016 21:19:45 Joe wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:55:32 + > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [...] > > > You have over-cut. Here is what

Re: best practices for fighting spam with Debian?

2016-12-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 December 2016 22:40:22 Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Dec 2016 at 22:40:01 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 09:31:06PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 16 December 2016 21:19:45 Joe wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 20:55:32 + > > > > > > > > Lisi Reisz

Re: Black screen after exiting X

2016-12-16 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all Debian user. > > After logging out X (I have Openbox as window manager) with Ctrl-alt-Backspace > (or also mouse right-clicking), tty1 is completely obscured and then I have to > do Alt-F2 (so going to tty2) and Alt-F1 and then I see

Re: Black Screen on First Boot

2016-12-16 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2016-12-15 16:21 (UTC-0500): Oh no! something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution. This is typical of trying to use GDM/Gnome on old hardware. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22Oh+no!+something+has

probable broken tomcat6 package on wheezy

2016-12-16 Thread John Naggets
Hi, Since today the tomcat6 package on Debian 7.11 seems to be broken as the tomcat6 service does not start anymore. Here is the relevant output of catalina.out: Dec 17, 2016 6:35:15 AM org.apache.catalina.startup.ClassLoaderFactory validateFile WARNING: Problem with directory [/usr/share/tomcat6

Re: Black screen after exiting X

2016-12-16 Thread Rodolfo Medina
kamaraju kusumanchi writes: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Rodolfo Medina > wrote: >> >> After logging out X (I have Openbox as window manager) with >> Ctrl-alt-Backspace (or also mouse right-clicking), tty1 is completely >> obscured and then I have to do Alt-F2 (so going to tty2) and Alt-F1