Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian writes: > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my >> Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I want to >> remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more

broken shutdown on stretch

2016-11-29 Thread Vincent Truchseß
Since upgrading to stretch my system keeps hanging on shutdown with only a cursor visible, but no output. tty0 still shows output from the previous boot. There is no error-message, but SysRq-Keys still work. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

2016-11-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.11.2016 um 08:40 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: > For example, how do you explain the presence in syslog of 12 times > the same 12 lines? The lines you posted are not the same. They are for different mount points. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the univ

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Liam O'Toole writes: > On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> Hi all Debian users. >> >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as >> my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I >> want to remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/28/2016 9:24 PM, Dave Thayer wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ looking for test utilities. The closest heading I found was "Utilities" [https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/]. The only relevant entry I f

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Ter, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/28/2016 9:24 PM, Dave Thayer wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ looking for test utilities. The closest heading I found was "Utilities" [https://packages.debian.org

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Curt
On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> >> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and >> unneeded) packages from your system. > > I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to remove some > packages that I use a lot, like, e.g., musixtex and pmx. So it

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/29/2016 6:06 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Ter, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/28/2016 9:24 PM, Dave Thayer wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ looking for test utilities. The closest heading

Re: forcefsck inconsistency

2016-11-29 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 29.11.2016 um 08:40 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: For example, how do you explain the presence in syslog of 12 times the same 12 lines? The lines you posted are not the same. They are for different mount points. -- Why is it that all of the instru

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Curt
On 2016-11-29, Curt wrote: > On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >>> >>> See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and >>> unneeded) packages from your system. >> >> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to remove some >> packages that I use a lot, l

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:31:48AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > I just looked at the intro of > https://debtags.alioth.debian.org/paper-debtags.html . > It appears that its goal is to solve my problem. I see a day of > interesting reading ahe

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 04:11:37 AM Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Thanks. But, my question is: how can I be sure and safe that doing so will > not perturbing my system? From the peanut gallery--I don't think you can--I mean, very little in life is sure... (and, ime, computer software is low on a

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Curt writes: > On 2016-11-29, Curt wrote: >> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and unneeded) packages from your system. >>> >>> I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me that it wants to remove >>> some pack

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Verde Denim
On 11/29/2016 7:31 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/29/2016 6:06 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Ter, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/28/2016 9:24 PM, Dave Thayer wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I went to https://packages.debian.org/stable/

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 08:02:48 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 04:11:37 AM Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Thanks. But, my question is: how can I be sure and safe that doing so > > will not perturbing my system? > > From the peanut gallery--I don't think you can--I

suggested / recommended NAS boxes to run Debian?

2016-11-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
There are many home and small office NAS boxes with built-in drive arrays and gigabit (or faster) ethernet. Quite a few are fanless too. The wiki already has some details about the QNAP[1] and Seagate[2] devices that can run Debian. If you were buying a new one this week (Christmas present per

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > Curt writes: > >> On 2016-11-29, Curt wrote: >>> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > See the deborphan package. It is useful for trimming unwanted (and > unneeded) packages from your system. I ran `deborphan --guess-all' but it seems to me th

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 08:02:48 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 04:11:37 AM Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> > Thanks. But, my question is: how can I be sure and safe that doing so >> > will not perturbing my system? >> >> From the peanut

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my > Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I want to > remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure > what of them I may delete without pertur

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 29 November 2016 12:51:52 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:31:48AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > [...] > > > I just looked at the intro of > > https://debtags.alioth.debian.org/paper-debtags.html . > > It appears

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/29/2016 6:51 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 06:31:48AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] I just looked at the intro of https://debtags.alioth.debian.org/paper-debtags.html . It appears that its goal is to solve my probl

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/29/2016 7:07 AM, Verde Denim wrote: On 11/29/2016 7:31 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/29/2016 6:06 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Ter, 29 Nov 2016, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/28/2016 9:24 PM, Dave Thayer wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:26:47AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I w

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 08:07:47 AM Verde Denim wrote: > On 11/29/2016 7:31 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I just looked at the intro of > > https://debtags.alioth.debian.org/paper-debtags.html . > > It appears that its goal is to solve my problem. I see a day of > > interesting reading ahead.

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:11:37 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Brian writes: > > > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose > >> Gnome as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free > >> space, no

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
In the days of yore, when GNOME was just version 2 point something, it used to be possible to rip out (most of) GNOME with a simple apt-get remove libgnome2-common. This would leave a few things lying around, but not enough for most people to worry about. I have no idea how to do the analogous op

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Patrick Bartek writes: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:11:37 + Rodolfo Medina > wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> > >> >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose >> >> Gnome as my Desktop manager, then I switched

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 04:12:52PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Patrick Bartek writes: On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:11:37 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: Brian writes: > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose >>

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Liam O'Toole writes: > >> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >>> Hi all Debian users. >>> >>> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome >>> as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, >>> now I want to remo

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Liam O'Toole writes: > On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> Liam O'Toole writes: >> >>> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all Debian users. When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To fr

Re: Index of hardware test utilities available in official Debian repositories

2016-11-29 Thread Joe
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:02:09 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > That search function is not suitable. Back in the days when a > library's catalog was a physical set of card-files there were > typically three "file cabinets" - one each for title, author, and > subject cards. By analogy, p.d.o only

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Joe
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 16:12:52 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Patrick Bartek writes: > > > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:11:37 + Rodolfo Medina > > wrote: > > > >> Brian writes: > >> > >> > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> > > >> >> When I freshly installed De

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Brian
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 09:11:37 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Brian writes: > > > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > >> When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my > >> Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I

Re: Search Your Neighborhood NOW oH

2016-11-29 Thread Toolz C
I know I'm sorry I've just been busy I'm in the process of finding a place I was planning on coming by sometime today though to see my little man On Nov 28, 2016 8:55 AM, wrote: > > > **Dear_{Tulie}** > > You Are Receiving This Email Because There May Be A Risk *Of Sex Offender* >

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Brian
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 17:45:39 +, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 16:12:52 + > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > Patrick Bartek writes: > > > > > On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:11:37 + Rodolfo Medina > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Brian writes: > > >> > > >> > On Mon 28 Nov 2016 at 21:44:00 +

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Liam O'Toole writes: > >> On 2016-11-29, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >>> Liam O'Toole writes: >>> On 2016-11-28, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi all Debian users. > > When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome > as my De

Re: Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-29 Thread iqwue Wabv
Richard, I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks. Regards, Karol

Re: broken shutdown on stretch

2016-11-29 Thread David Jardine
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:10:11AM +0100, Vincent Truchseß wrote: > Since upgrading to stretch my system keeps hanging on shutdown with only > a cursor visible, but no output. tty0 still shows output from the > previous boot. > > There is no error-message, but SysRq-Keys still work. > > Faced wi

gdm3 greeter banner question

2016-11-29 Thread Malmberg, Breen
I am attempting to display a lengthy text warning banner, in the GUI, before the user logs in, while also having the display-user-list=false option set. How do I do this? When you set the display-user-list=false option it appears to also disable the warning banner text display area, at login.

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 29 November 2016 20:36:29 iqwue Wabv wrote: > Richard, > > I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks. > Regards, Karol Only 4.7. The others appear not to be available any more. Lisi

Re: router solutions based on Debian?

2016-11-29 Thread J Mo
Please excuse my late reply. I am network engineer (Cisco and Juniper big routers/switches) and I recently did a review of about eight router-type Linux/BSD distros, all run under KVM on a virtual test network. I also recently started contributing some code to LEDE (OpenWRT). I do router-y/sw

It there a way to file a complaint against a package maintainer?

2016-11-29 Thread J Mo
Hello! Is there any standard method for filing a complaint against a Debian package maintainer? Unfortunately, a package that is important to me has been picked up by a new maintainer after the old one abandoned it. This new maintainer has caused a lot of problems because they, admittedly

Re: It there a way to file a complaint against a package maintainer?

2016-11-29 Thread John Hasler
lea...@debian.org First, though, you should contact the maintainer and offer to help. Many Debian packages are maintained by groups. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

2016-11-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina writes: > When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my > Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I want to > remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't used any more but am not sure > what of them I may delete without pertur

Re: It there a way to file a complaint against a package maintainer?

2016-11-29 Thread Ben Finney
J Mo writes: > This new maintainer has caused a lot of problems because they, > admittedly, don't use the package themselves and don't really > understand it. This is, I think, one of the better reasons to intervene. If there are willing maintainers among the actual user community for a package,

Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

2016-11-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 23:45:51 (+), Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > > > When I freshly installed Debian on my present system, I chose Gnome as my > > Desktop manager, then I switched to Openbox. To free space, now I want to > > remove all those Gnome packages that I haven't

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-29 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:59:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. Thanks. > > Regards, Karol > > Only 4.7. The others appear not to be available any more. Older backports are available at http://snapshot.debian.org/. Mirko

Re: debian on lenovo carbon thinkpad 4th generation confirmation report

2016-11-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 November 2016 00:50:04 Mirko Parthey wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:59:35PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I didn't know that kernels > 4.1 are available as jessie-backports. > > > Thanks. Regards, Karol > > > > Only 4.7. The others appear not to be available any more. > > Old

Re: Jessie upgrade without systemd [was: Debian *not very good]

2016-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/26/2016 01:02 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Note that many things (Gnome, I'm looking at you) *require* systemd these days: it'll be much more difficult to avoid systemd if you want a "modern" desktop environment. That is the exact reason that I am using Mate. Based on Gnome 2 with no syste

Re: Uninstalling Gnome

2016-11-29 Thread Seeker
On 11/29/2016 8:12 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: I wonder if it's possible to provide Debian a set A of packages and say: `please install these and only these and remove all the other packages present on the disk except the ones from which some of A depends.' This would be equivalent of reinstalli

Re: Manually installed packages (was: Uninstalling Gnome)

2016-11-29 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 11/29/16, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 29 Nov 2016 at 23:45:51 (+), Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> >> If I run `apt-mark showmanual', a list of packages is ouput that are >> supposed >> to have been manually installed on my system but that actually I don't at >> all >> remember ever installing ne

Is this really the way to get your name out? (was: Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo is Looking for Information Technology-related Job Opportunities World Wide)

2016-11-29 Thread David Niklas
Every so often I see something very much like this on the debian mailing list. I want to know, do people really get a job this way? Is this list really intended for these kinds of emails? Sincerely, David On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:37:37 + (UTC) debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:

Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal"

2016-11-29 Thread David Niklas
On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:08:23 + (UTC) debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > On Thursday 17 November 2016 14:41:23 Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 11/16/2016 8:52 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 16 November 2016 14:13:49 Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> There exist SOC proje

Re: Is this really the way to get your name out?

2016-11-29 Thread Doug
On 11/29/2016 03:23 PM, David Niklas wrote: Every so often I see something very much like this on the debian mailing list. I want to know, do people really get a job this way? Is this list really intended for these kinds of emails? Sincerely, David On Wed, 16 Nov 2016 15:37:37 + (UTC) debi

Re: mdadm - two questions

2016-11-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Kamil, On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 01:26:55AM +0100, Kamil Jońca wrote: > My first plan was somehow migrate to RAID10. I thought that is simply > "raid0 over some raid1 arrays" so it should be legal to use 2*1TB + > 2*1GB devices and then extend 2*1G => 2*1TB. But it not work that > way. All device