Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility >> >>> Produc

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Joe
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:49:07 +0200 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:00:58 +0100 > Joe wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because > > > everything will immediately update willy-nilly and ou

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: Just notice /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws change to 7 works. If you're going to use Oracle Java, I would suggest this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-debian.html I've been using this f

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: >> Just notice >> >> /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws >> >> >> change to 7 works. > > > If you're going to use Oracle Java, I would suggest this: > > http://www.webupd8.org

Re: Hibernate option in Gnome menu? (Jessie)

2015-04-17 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2015-04-17 02:00, Michael Biebl wrote: > While you can configure the actions on power button, sleep button and > lid switch events (via dconf-editor or gsettings [1]), ttbomk there is > no config option to adjust gnome-shell and you'll need to resort to a > extension for this. OK, setting the p

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: Just notice /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws change to 7 works. If you're going to use Oracle Java, I would suggest this: ht

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/16/2015 09:07 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 16 April 2015 16:28:15 Ric Moore wrote: Gene, regarding harddrive problems, check this out: http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/ I had one bad sector that gave everything else fits. This fixed it! Scared me

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: Just notice /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws chang

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:16:41 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > >> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are > >> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to work on Debian (which is > >> how I got Seamo

Re: FAQ's versus "Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask"?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:52:16PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > FAQ's may indicate questions others have asked.

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 April 2015 22:27:51 Brad Rogers wrote: > Admittedly, one has to be fairly confident in one's own abilities to > select updates wisely.  So, as a result, I'd probably advise complete > newcomers to use codenames.  At least until they gained some > knowledge/skill in handling updates.

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > > >> Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security >> perspective if nothing else. >> > > > So, are you claiming that the LTS of Debian 6 LTS, is imaginary, and > does not exist? I am not. I am telli

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 04:06 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hi, On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: Just notice /etc/alternatives/javaws -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >> Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >>> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >>> > On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> Have you tried "catalyst" for the

Ubuntu is not Debian [was: Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors]

2015-04-17 Thread Alexis
Petter Adsen writes: But. These packages are for *Ubuntu*. Ubuntu is not Debian. Yes, they both use .deb packages, but that does not mean that the Ubuntu packages will work well (or at all) on Debian. Since joining this list, i have been quite startled by how many questions get asked here

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >> >> >> Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility Product Family your 6000 series is listed. http://support.amd.c

Re: FAQ's versus "Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask"?

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 04:15 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 08:52:16PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2015 14 Apr 13:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 12:08:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2015 17:03:48 Richard Owlett wrote: FAQ's may indicate ques

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, On 17/04/15 10:31, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/17/2015 04:06 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: >>

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 04:43 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hi, On 17/04/15 10:31, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/17/2015 04:06 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hi, On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, li

Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Daniel Harris
Hello My eyesight is getting pretty bad so I need a way to create a large virtual screen bigger than my actual display and have the same effect that panning around the desktop using the mouse has but using a stylus to achieve the same effect. The stylus is the important part. I really need that

upgrade to jessie on amd64

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
hi, I tried to upgrade my amd64 laptop from wheezy to jessie, but apt-get upgrade fails with messages like: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch I get that even with this very basic source.list: deb http://ftp.fr.debi

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 02:33:59 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:50:13 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 16 April 2015 16:01:31 David Christensen wrote: > > > Do you know if the laptop or the desktop machine can use a USB > > > flash drive as the system drive? My 945 ch

Re: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 10:31:00 Daniel Harris wrote: > Hello > > My eyesight is getting pretty bad so I need a way to create a large virtual > screen bigger than my actual display and have the same effect that panning > around the desktop using the mouse has but using a stylus to achieve the > sam

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 04:04:52 Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/16/2015 09:07 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 16 April 2015 16:28:15 Ric Moore wrote: > >> Gene, regarding harddrive problems, check this out: > >> http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/ > >> I had one ba

Re: FAQ's versus "Questions Newbies SHOULD Ask"?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 04:15:12 Chris Bannister wrote: > > Lisi wrote: > > We're all cynics! > > Just as well, too eh? > > Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are not > as they ought to be. Guilty as can be, here, Chris. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes t

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 05:54:08 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 02:33:59 Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:50:13 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > With limited life of the flash, linux filesystems are hell on > > > flash. > > > > Not any longer :) There are now Lin

Re: upgrade to jessie on amd64

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I tried to upgrade my amd64 laptop from wheezy to jessie, but apt-get upgrade fails with messages like: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages Hash Sum mismatch I get that even with this very bas

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 04:25:41PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com): > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > As opposed to problems in a fortnight? If you change all of them, > > > you will have a whirlwind as soon as Jessie becomes Stable.

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 06:19:31 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 05:54:08 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 02:33:59 Petter Adsen wrote: [...] > Is that long ago? Flash memory has come a long way in recent years. > > I'm running SSDs on my desktop, and them burnin

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Reco
Hi. In-Reply-To: <5530cfdc.8000...@gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 05:18:20AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > > Then after it sets everything right. I love > >>it, as I am lazy and Andrew does a good job at it. Just a FYI, Ric > > > >This kind of laziness is good, but sometime it is just better to

A bug of design : Unmet dependencies on architecture-independent package

2015-04-17 Thread sppmg
Hi all I think it is a bug of design . But I don't have experience for report bug. I stop on "rate the severity of this problem" of reportbug program. So, anyone can help report and show me ? I try to follow "How to report a bug in Debian using email" to write down here. === Subj

Re: apt stuck at "Reading database"

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: > On 04/14/2015 03:59 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:45AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: > >>IIRC apt-listbugs or apt-listchanges (or both) don't work without the > >>deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list. > > >

Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-17 Thread Kruppt
On 2015-04-16, German wrote: > Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe > rtl8723be returns no output, so I think my card is > operational. But Wicd doesn't show any wireless networks. > Where to go from here? Thank you > > -- > German > > >From Wicd GUI toolbar select Preferences,

Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-17 Thread Hans
Hi! Sometimes it makes sense, to deistall and purge network-manager when using wicd. Try this out. Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-17, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/17/2015 04:06 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote: >> Just noti

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:49:42 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 06:19:31 Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 05:54:08 -0400 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 17 April 2015 02:33:59 Petter Adsen wrote: > [...] > > Is that long ago? Flash memory has come a long w

Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-17 Thread German
On 17 Apr 2015 11:04:02 GMT Kruppt wrote: > On 2015-04-16, German wrote: > > Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe > > rtl8723be returns no output, so I think my card is > > operational. But Wicd doesn't show any wireless networks. > > Where to go from here? Thank you > > > > --

Re: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 11:05:17 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 10:31:00 Daniel Harris wrote: > > Hello > > > > My eyesight is getting pretty bad so I need a way to create a large > > virtual screen bigger than my actual display and have the same effect > > that panning around the desk

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 11:36:26 Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 04:25:41PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com): > > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100 > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > As opposed to problems in a fortnight? If you change all of th

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:46:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Aw gee, that expression is at least 30 years older than the internet! > > I first heard about it in a letter my mother got from a friend of hers > that had moved to the Anchorage area about 5 years before the quake in > 1952. Sh

Fwd: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Daniel Harris
-- Forwarded message -- From: Daniel Harris Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus To: Lisi Reisz Sorry posted to early by mistake I am currently running windows which I hate but the stylus works perfectly under

Re: apt stuck at "Reading database"

2015-04-17 Thread Jape Person
On 04/17/2015 07:08 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:08:15AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: On 04/14/2015 03:59 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:42:45AM -0400, Jape Person wrote: IIRC apt-listbugs or apt-listchanges (or both) don't work without the deb-src

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:27:51PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Hello Lisi, > > >But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because everything > >will immediately update willy-nilly and out of your control, all at > >once, to >

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 13:10:36 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:46:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Aw gee, that expression is at least 30 years older than the internet! > > > > I first heard about it in a letter my mother got from a friend of hers > > that had moved to the

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 01:04:15PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 11:36:26 Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 04:25:41PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com): > > > > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100 > > > > > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote:

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 12:46:04 Petter Adsen wrote: > I think it's Chinese or Taiwanese, so it's probably the Communist Party > that has the backdoor :) The poor Tawanese! |ny dead ones must be turning in their graves. They are more anti-communist than the USA!! They fought a nasty civil war

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/16/2015 at 05:34 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:25 PM, David Wright > wrote: > >> Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com): >>> However long the wait, the result will be the same. In fact, the >>> longer the wait, the more upgrades there will be in one go. >> >> This may

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 02:27:58PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > Told poorly, but that is the classic definition of an Alaskan Divorce. > > > > Still none the wiser. What is a 30-06? What is an Alaskan Divorce? > > I looked up this: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alaskan+d

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:32:47 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 12:46:04 Petter Adsen wrote: > > I think it's Chinese or Taiwanese, so it's probably the Communist > > Party that has the backdoor :) > > The poor Tawanese! |ny dead ones must be turning in their graves. > They are m

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 14:43:53 The Wanderer wrote: > I do generally wait a week or three after a new stable release before > dist-upgrading, and I _always_ review the apt-listchanges report for any > dist-upgrade before giving the go-ahead to proceed with it, but that's > about the limit of how f

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 14:44:10 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 02:27:58PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > Told poorly, but that is the classic definition of an Alaskan > > > > Divorce. > > > > > > Still none the wiser. What is a 30-06? What is an Alaskan Divorce? > > > > I looke

Re: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Friday 17 April 2015 13:01:37 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 11:05:17 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 10:31:00 Daniel Harris wrote: > > > Hello > > > > > > My eyesight is getting pretty bad so I need a way to create a large > > > virtual screen bigger than my actual d

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/17/2015 at 09:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 14:43:53 The Wanderer wrote: > >> I do generally wait a week or three after a new stable release >> before dist-upgrading, and I _always_ review the apt-listchanges >> report for any dist-upgrade before giving the go-ahead to

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 15:08:13 The Wanderer wrote: > My point is that it's easy to take this approach even with sources.list > naming testing explicitly, simply by not initiating the actual upgrade. > There's no need to track a release by codename, even temporarily, in > order to avoid the chaos.

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:18:40 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: Hello Lisi, >And I am paranoid about my own incompetence and forgetfulness. :-( From my experiences of you here (and on other lists) I think you're not giving yourself enough credit. IOW, I reckon you're smarter than you think you are. --

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:16:41 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 17/04/2015, David Wright wrote: >> > Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): >> >> In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are >> >> usually .deb packages, and so, tend to

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/17/2015 at 10:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 15:08:13 The Wanderer wrote: > >> My point is that it's easy to take this approach even with >> sources.list naming testing explicitly, simply by not initiating >> the actual upgrade. There's no need to track a release by code

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-04-17, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole wrote: >>> On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby wrote: On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Have you tried "catalyst" for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility > Product Family your 60

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > Liam's point appeared to be that if anyone (me) is stupid enough to be > still using "squeeze", then they (me) can't expect anything to work in > it. That's right. I put it more diplomatically. But you set yourself up for it by saying you were using sq

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 22:43:08 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 17/04/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On > > http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064 > > > > you will find several packages. Among these are > > fglrx-core_14.501-0ubuntu1_amd64_UB_14.01.deb > > > > that you mentio

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): > The computers upon which I run Debian 6, have only 16 GB of RAM, and, Lucky you. 2GB here. > expecially with Debian 6 not having adequate memory management (as > previously mentioned, memory swapping does not work effectively), so, Eh? Squeeze ran qui

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 15:51:23 The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/17/2015 at 10:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 15:08:13 The Wanderer wrote: > > A valid point. But changing code name reduces the risk of > > absentmindedly upgrading and then thinking oops. Particularly in the > > c

An inotifywait question

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am as you have proably guessed by now, the originator of some bash scripts that greatly simplify the day to day background operations. Two of these "scripts" make use of inotifywait to hand them the data they need to do the rest of their jobs. One of them watches /var/spool/m

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/17/2015 at 11:41 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 15:51:23 The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 04/17/2015 at 10:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> A valid point. But changing code name reduces the risk of >>> absentmindedly upgrading and then thinking oops. Particularly in >>> the case

Re: how to debug this fuse problem

2015-04-17 Thread Warrick Baijius
I've been having the same/similar issue, but with Jungle Disk software attempting to mount a network folder (webdav). This started some time (right after? didn't notice. Jungle Disk log is daily, does not extend back) after a kernel upgrade (dist-upgrade on April 9 included: Upgrade: mailman:am

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 07:46:04 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:49:42 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 06:19:31 Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 05:54:08 -0400 > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Friday 17 April 2015 02:33:59 Petter Ads

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > On Friday 17 April 2015 14:44:10 Chris Bannister wrote: > > So an Alaskan Divorce is when you destroy something because it annoys > > you? > > So it would appear. But it is not a term I have met before - and Urban > Dictionary hasn't heard of it. >

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 04/16/2015 05:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: [The Atom computers boxes] were the Intel D525MW boards, in a box made by ARK, a subsidiary of Intel. Running an RTAI patched kernel, wit hyperthreading disabled an a kernel argument of "isolcpus=1", the IRQ latency is about 2 u-s at the halfway mark

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] My goodness, I've just been rapped over the knuckles (privately) for not trimming the last 17 lines of my post, even though there was a reference to them in my text. This to someone who tidi

Re: An inotifywait question

2015-04-17 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi! On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 12:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am as you have proably guessed by now, the originator of some bash > scripts that greatly simplify the day to day background operations. > > Two of these "scripts" make use of inotifywait to hand them the data th

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 08:10:36 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:46:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Aw gee, that expression is at least 30 years older than the > > internet! [...] > Still none the wiser. What is a 30-06? What is an Alaskan Divorce? 30-06 is the caliber of a

Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 17 April 2015 17:18:59 The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/17/2015 at 11:41 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 15:51:23 The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 04/17/2015 at 10:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >>> A valid point. But changing code name reduces the risk of > >>> absentmindedly upgrad

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 09:27:58 Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > I looked up this: > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=alaskan+divorce > > alaskan divorce isn't defined. > Can you define it? > > > So I tried 30.06 in Google. > https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=30-06&oq=30-06&aqs=chrome..69

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 09:32:47 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 12:46:04 Petter Adsen wrote: > > I think it's Chinese or Taiwanese, so it's probably the Communist > > Party that has the backdoor :) > > The poor Tawanese! |ny dead ones must be turning in their graves. > They are mor

Re: After upgrade to jessie usb keyboard multimedia keys stopped working

2015-04-17 Thread deloptes
For the record I found out that not the reinstall of packages helped the keyboard multimedia keys to work again, but rather subesquential unplug/plug to the system. For me it is still a big question why this is not working after system boot Here is what I see after replug If you have any idea le

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 12:26:47 David Wright wrote: > Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > > On Friday 17 April 2015 14:44:10 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > So an Alaskan Divorce is when you destroy something because it > > > annoys you? > > > > So it would appear. But it is not a term I h

Re: samba issue

2015-04-17 Thread deloptes
Pol Hallen wrote: > my server has 3 different ethernet NICs, so I can exclude a driver > problems... is it happening with all media players? perhaps it is cache/mem issue -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

Re: Hibernate option in Gnome menu? (Jessie)

2015-04-17 Thread deloptes
W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2015-04-17 02:00, Michael Biebl wrote: >> While you can configure the actions on power button, sleep button and >> lid switch events (via dconf-editor or gsettings [1]), ttbomk there is >> no config option to adjust gnome-shell and you'll need to resort to a >> extens

USB problems

2015-04-17 Thread Erwan David
My phone is recognized only on USB3 ports (even if it is a USB2 device) Here are the logs: On USB2 Apr 17 20:40:18 bibi kernel: [ 5870.268275] usb 4-1.5: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Apr 17 20:40:18 bibi kernel: [ 5870.456001] usb 4-1.5: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Apr 17 20:40

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 06:51 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. In-Reply-To: <5530cfdc.8000...@gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 05:18:20AM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Then after it sets everything right. I love it, as I am lazy and Andrew does a good job at it. Just a FYI, Ric This kind of laziness is good, but

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150416_0100-0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I have installed various releases of debian many times. I have a local > proxy using approx that makes it very fast. > > After posting about a lockup of my desktop Jessie computer, I realized > that whatever advice I got would I got would surely be mor

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 12:31:02 David Christensen wrote: > On 04/16/2015 05:50 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [The Atom computers boxes] were the Intel D525MW boards, in a box > > made by ARK, a subsidiary of Intel. Running an RTAI patched kernel, > > wit hyperthreading disabled an a kernel argume

Re: An inotifywait question

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 12:34:11 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, 2015-04-17 at 12:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > > Thanks for any clues. The bash manual, at around 500 pages, details > > aren't that easy to find in that tome. > > Bash (or sh) is really a programming language :

Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Paul E Condon (pecon...@mesanetworks.net): > I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;; > upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it > would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This install behaves very > differently in the following way

Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-17 Thread David Christensen
I don't think it's quite this simple: On 04/16/2015 06:56 PM, Celejar wrote: > I don't think it's quite this simple: > 1) OpenSSl thinks /dev/urandom is good enough for crypto: > https://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#USER1 > 2) Perl's Math::Random::Secure also thinks it's generally good enough

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:54:26 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2015 12:31:02 David Christensen wrote: > > Okay, "all the eggs in one basket". So, either a USB flash drive or > > the newer 1 TB drive as the system drive, migrate your data to a > > new 2 TB drive, migrate the Amanda ar

.listadmin.ini and Mailman 2.1.14 (fwd)

2015-04-17 Thread Thomas Gramstad
Is this the wrong place to ask this question? Thomas Gramstad -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:22:15 +0200 From: Thomas Gramstad To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: .listadmin.ini and Mailman 2.1.14 Hi, I'm using listadmin ( https://packages.debian.org/

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 07:33 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2015-04-17, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/17/2015 04:06 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hi, On 17/04/15 09:53, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/17/2015 03:47 AM, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, On 17/04/15 09:43, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2015 11:44 PM, lina wrote:

Re: Panning a virtual desktop using a touchscreen and stylus

2015-04-17 Thread Daniel Harris
Hello Eike Thanks for the reply. I have the screens setup already and it seems quick enough for what I want although until I get the stylus fixed I will not know for certain. The graphics memory is shared but it has 4 GB Ram so should be ok (In windows It says 1792 MB free). I think you would be

Re: wheezy drive recognition? Now: routers

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 07:46 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 06:49:42 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: Recently I bought a new router, and I've been just itching to install DD-WRT on it, I made sure to check it was compatible before buying it. The default firmware isn't bad, I'm just concerned a

Re: javaws

2015-04-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:53:39 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > >> I cannot use OpenJDK since it doesn't > >> work for the 3D graphic application I use. If you get curious, > >> install galternatives, which is a handy GUI to examine/edit where > >> alternatives are set to. That Oracle-7-installer set

Re: samba issue

2015-04-17 Thread Pol Hallen
my server has 3 different ethernet NICs, so I can exclude a driver problems... is it happening with all media players? perhaps it is cache/mem issue server mem issue? what about cache? yep: all media players. All os clients (linux, win and mac) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: wheezy drive recognition? Now: OT

2015-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2015 01:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Here, the game belongs to the state, but only convicted felons are precluded from hunting, Can't we take this to Off-Topic ?? This doesn't have one thing to do with Debian. :( Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great

Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:08:31 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > 1. I use 'shred' when I want to fill a disk or partition with random > numbers. It is ~1.7 orders of magnitude faster than /etc/urandom. And 'shred' uses /dev/urandom in turn: $ strace -e trace=file shred -s 100M - > /dev/nu

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 April 2015 15:09:33 Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:54:26 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 17 April 2015 12:31:02 David Christensen wrote: > > > Okay, "all the eggs in one basket". So, either a USB flash drive > > > or the newer 1 TB drive as the system drive,

Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 04/17/2015 11:54 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 17 April 2015 12:31:02 David Christensen wrote: The simple answer would seem to be to run the same Linux distribution, kernel, and RTAI patch on all three computers. What Linux distribution and kernel do you run on the Atom computers? That

LVM and ZFS

2015-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 04/17/2015 12:41 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:> On Friday 17 April 2015 15:09:33 Petter Adsen wrote: >> Just a suggestion: have you considered running LVM ... > I might look into it. My last foray into that territory was with a > fedora install, single digit version and it was a lost it all > disas

Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 04/17/2015 12:41 PM, Reco wrote: And 'shred' uses /dev/urandom in turn: $ strace -e trace=file shred -s 100M - > /dev/null … open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY) = 3 open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY) = 3 Although, according to strace, 'shred' cheats and only reads 2k bytes fr

bugs found

2015-04-17 Thread Richard Jasmin
I have a bug in liberoffice writer that puts text on a new line instead of using the spacebar to do so. I cant report the bug as the packages is not listed for liberoffice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

ext4 filesystem on lvm on raid causes boot to enter emergency shell

2015-04-17 Thread Rick Thomas
When /etc/fstab has an ext4 filesystem on a logical volume which is itself on a software raid, the system times out waiting for (I think!) fsck on that filesystem. This causes the boot to drop into the emergency shell. If I just type “^D" and allow the boot to continue, the filesystem is mounted

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