Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:16 AM, lee wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > >> (2) When I was a college student, when we talked about modularity, we >> talked about something called "implicit linkage". I don't know what >> the current term for it is, but it is the generalized problem of >> global constants

Re: systemd/cgroups changing permissions (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-09-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:35:59AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> 2014/09/22 5:21 "Ansgar Burchardt" : >> > >> > Hi Joel, >> > >> > Joel Rees writes: >> > > (6) systemd and cgroups (at minimum) end up overriding the permissions >> > > system.

Re: Cannot boot when /sbin/init is linked to /lib/systemd/systemd, but works with ../lib/systemd/systemd

2014-09-22 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/21/14, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > Hi, > > Not interested in a debate over systemd. But I have a boot issue and since > > there isn't a bug that matches the symptoms, I suspect my setup may be > peculiar and I'm hoping someone may have some insight. > > The package systemd-sysv installs a syml

Re: More FUD for everyone: Computers Are Dangerous! (Users are devs, after all.)

2014-09-22 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/22/14, Joel Rees wrote: > > So, with that example in place, I'm hoping that everyone who bothers > to read this will at least agree that, one, users should be regularly > spending a little time to learn a little more about the systems they > use. Users should be willing to discuss what they u

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-22 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:54:43 +0200 lee sent: > Why are things going wrong with it for you, and what > things? Lee, If I can jump in here re: fvwm. [fvwm 2.6.5] On my desktop I have this thing. I has two columns of squares which are labelled FileMGR - xv -gview and all sorts of things. To write

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