On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:19:00 -0700
koanhead wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 10:30 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >
> > ... I have a philosophical problem with systemd, I suspect it will
> > cause problems, my fallback is OpenBSD (or maybe Debian/kFreeBSD,
> > thanks Reco)
>
> For the record, in case anyone
On 8/11/14, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were:
>>
>> 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.
>>
>> 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gun
On 10/08/2014 10:06 AM, Mike McClain wrote:
>> Please describe your network topology. Where's the Win2k box ?
> __
> | Debian| LAN| Windows 2000 |
> Inet|Linux|-
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:44:52 +1000
Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>
> I give another vote for IPCop btw that or pfsense, but IPCop is
> simpler.
>
Yes, but it's a distribution in itself, which means you need to
dedicate an entire computer to it. (No, I don't think there is any point
in running
Le 10.08.2014 19:08, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:51:30 +0400
Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd.
Consider switching to the Debian/kFreeBSD. It's the same Debian, yet
there won't be no
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems
to be no way to run them.
Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all this
complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installation to wine32 will not work.
Even if there is no such folder (I
Hi,
Thanks for your answers.
On 08/10/2014 11:48 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Diogene Laerce a écrit :
>>
>> I have a strange issue with wheezy 7.6.0 : the system complains
>> for only left 487 Mo on the ROOT level. But a :
> [...]
>> where /boot, /etc, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, /var a
Le 10.08.2014 23:29, Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:02:42 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>>> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>>
>> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
>> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably
>> in the spr
On 10/08/14 17:15, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:03:20 +0200
> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
>> DEBUG=1
>> if [ $DEBUG -eq 0 ]; then
>> NULLOUT='>/dev/null'
>> fi
>> pushd $dir ${NULLOUT}; do_something; popd ${NULLOUT}
>>
>
> Try it like this:
>
> #DEBUG=1
> OUT=/dev/null
> [
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT), Reco wrote:
>
> While dd can be used to copy a directory, it cannot be used alone for
> this task. Try this:
>
> ...
>
> cp -a /var/www/* /media/lin50
This may work if there are no "hidden" files in the directory (files whose
names begin with a period), an
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 01:23:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>
>
> > Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd
> > on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any
> > other way), has said on his b
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:09:24PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Bannister
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
> >>
> >> I consider these posts as not OT. Consider Debian social contract:
> >
> > Think again.
> >
> >
> >> Our prio
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:35:47AM +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness writes:
> > There are tiers of users.
> >
> > There's the users who are not developers.
> > There's the users who are developers.
> > Then there's me.
> >
> > Since I am at the top of the hierarchy,
>
> Uh, yo
On 8/11/14, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 01:23:49PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400
>> Tom H wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd
>> > on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debia
On 8/11/14, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:09:24PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Bannister
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I consider these posts as not OT. Consider Debian social contract:
On 8/11/14, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:35:47AM +0200, sa...@eng.it wrote:
>> Zenaan Harkness writes:
>> > There are tiers of users.
>> >
>> > There's the users who are not developers.
>> > There's the users who are developers.
>> > Then there's me.
>> >
>> > Since I
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 08:05:46PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>
> > I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>
> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probab
Mike McClain a écrit :
>
> Clearly DNS lookup is working and I have a problem with the
> configuration of IE.
Check in its network settings whether a proxy is defined, and remove it.
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Zenaan Harkness writes:
> GNOME Image Manipulation Package?
GNU Image Manipulation Program. It a bit funny but not strange that
The Gimp is developed under the banner of the GNOME project: GNOME was
created AFTER The Gimp was re-written using GTK (GIMP Tool Kit),
providing the uniform look requir
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 22:15:02 +1000
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Don't confuse GNU and GNOME. HINT: What does GIMP stand for?
>
> GNOME Image Manipulation Package?
Oh come on man! Stop with the silly FUD... It doesn't become anyone here...
The GIMP has been around a long long time.
GIMP:
http
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On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote:
> I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly
> old. Seems to be no way to run them.
>
> Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of
> all this complains tha
On 8/11/14, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>
>> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>
> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
> the spring.
>
> As alway
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> Here in New Zealand - *ONE* Raspberry Pi $55.00, 16GB SD $20.00, cases
Well, you do have some of the most picturesque land recorded in 48 frames
per second... and Hobbits... :)
> That's dammned expensive and not useful at all!!!
It
I'm having a problem with fetchmail. Something that has not arisen in
some 15 yrs of linux use.
This post is a tad bit verbose... but it seemed necessary to make it
clear why I am somewhat flummoxed.
Fetchmail is never a problem... and yet:
I've been moving my main work host, (Debian jessie), t
Use getmail.
I have used mpop. getmail maintainer lurks around here, so that's what
I'm planning to use when I next stop pop DLing.
They are incredibly faster.
Good luck :)
Zenaan
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:01:07 -0400
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Fetchmail is never a problem... and yet:
> I've been moving my main work host, (Debian jessie), to a vm running on a
> windows hosts.
Did you ensure the fetchmail daemon is running?
ps -A |grep fetchmail
It's possible you will need to
debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst fails at "Select and install software" when
retrieving file 1204 of 1315 (26%).
Further investigation on the 3rd expert install attempt shows that the
installer cannot progress past downloading package netpbm amd64
2:10.0-15+b1
messages in Ctrl+Alt+F4 console window are
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:24:06 -0400
AW wrote:
> It's possible you will need to enable the service daemon...
>
> sudo systemctl enable fetchmail
>
> in order for it to start on host boot.
And I forgot about the /etc/default/fetchmail
Make sure START_DAEMON=yes
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Joe wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:19:00 -0700
koanhead wrote:
For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this from a
Jessie box without systemd. It's easy to make this happen, and it
works just fine as long as you don't use GNOME or MATE, possibly KDE,
or those functions of othe
Diogene Laerce a écrit :
>>
>> mount --bind / /mnt
>> du /mnt -hx --max-depth=1
[...]
> After narrowing on /mnt, I found that the 55G comes from
> /mnt/media/backup/backup.
>
> As I couldn't find which files or directories are involved in that
> directory, I umount /mnt, deleted it all (rm -R
Zenaan Harkness writes:
> Martin, it looks like you'll have to recompile your kernel first sorry.
I was kind of thinking that. Actually, I think I have a
solution which I hadn't thought of at the time. I have FreeBSD
running in a virtual machine on a Mac. That will be native ufs
and I shou
On 08/11/2014 03:31 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Diogene Laerce a écrit :
>>>
>>> mount --bind / /mnt
>>> du /mnt -hx --max-depth=1
> [...]
[...]
> You just deleted everything in the /backup directory of /dev/sdc1
> mounted on /media/backup. I hope you had another backup or it did not
> co
Thank you. I'll respond to a few points now, the rest of your
post requires some thought and experimentation.
Joe wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
What should I be reading to understand:
1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
It depe
On Saturday, August 2, 2014 4:10:02 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 31.07.2014 20:27, schrieb Rusi Mody:
> > After some recent upgrades (this is on jessie)
> > auto starting of ppp has stopped working.
> > So every time after booting I now have to run pppoeconf.
> > Any ideas?
> This is a s
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 03:09:24PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Bannister
>> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I consider these posts as not OT. Consider De
AW writes:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:01:07 -0400
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>
> > Fetchmail is never a problem... and yet:
> > I've been moving my main work host, (Debian jessie), to a vm running on a
> > windows hosts.
>
> Did you ensure the fetchmail daemon is running?
>
> ps -A |grep fetchmail
>
Zenaan Harkness writes:
> Use getmail.
>
> I have used mpop. getmail maintainer lurks around here, so that's what
> I'm planning to use when I next stop pop DLing.
No thanks. Fetchmail should be working. I really doubt that
fetchmail itself is the problem.
And just for the record.. its a bit
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 16:31:12 +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
> debian-7.6.0-amd64-netinst fails at "Select and install software" when
> retrieving file 1204 of 1315 (26%).
>
> Further investigation on the 3rd expert install attempt shows that the
> installer cannot progress past downloading packa
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 09:29:33 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> It would more resemble "Who pulls which string when?"
> In one iteration of my experiments I had been burned by not adding
> "exec openbox" as last line of xinitrc. What other scripts are run
> at boot that would affect whether Openbox
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 11:25:52 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> AW writes:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:01:07 -0400
> > Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> > > Fetchmail is never a problem... and yet:
> > > I've been moving my main work host, (Debian jessie), to a vm running on a
> > > windows hosts.
> >
Brian writes:
> On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 11:25:52 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> AW writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:01:07 -0400
>> > Harry Putnam wrote:
>> >
>> > > Fetchmail is never a problem... and yet:
>> > > I've been moving my main work host, (Debian jessie), to a vm running on
>
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:25:52 -0400
Harry Putnam wrote:
> And yet something seems to be causing the verbose setting to produce
> insufficient output on the new host.
> harry > fetchmail -vvvac
> fetchmail: Old UID list from pop.newsguy.com:
> fetchmail: Old UID list from pop.newsguy.c
Ahoj,
Dňa Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:01:05 +1200 Chris Bannister
napísal:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
> >
> > Our priorities are our users and free software
> >
> > We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software
> ^
>
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 09:44:31 -0400
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:19:00 -0700
> > koanhead wrote:
> >
> >> For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this
> >> from a Jessie box without systemd. It's easy to make this happen,
> >> and it works just f
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 23:29:50 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary?
Hugo
you need loginctl, so the answer is yes, you need systemd
success,
Right. I found your bug 711351.
Hugo
That bug is already solved. systemd version 44-11 doesn't had
multi
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 08:21:24PM +0100, Joe wrote:
No idea, but this is a sid updated today, ps aux | grep init returns
pid 1, /sbin/init.
I have systemd, systemd-sysv, and sysvinit installed but not
sysvinit-core. Systemd is certainly running, along with systemd-udevd,
So you’re running syst
On Mi, 06 aug 14, 22:23:43, B wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:15:29 -0400
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>
> > /dev/sdd1 /home/harry/misc ext4 user,uid=1000,gid=1050
> > 00
>
> I don't see no uid/gid options in man mount ext4 section…
To expand a little, the uid and gid options wouldn't
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from
> most Linux distros.
Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps money.
Look what happened to M$. I happen to know directly a certain
On 08/10/2014 11:40 PM, sa...@eng.it wrote:
> koanhead writes:
> > For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this from a
> > Jessie box without systemd...
>
> > All I did was use aptitude interactively to remove systemd-* and then
> > review and adjust the solutions as necessa
On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> I'm posting to the list instead of privately sending it to you, so
> others can comment or correct errors.
You asked for it :p
> III. INSTALL X
>
> A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt-get install xorg'
> B. Lean & Mean: 'apt-g
I checked my Sid system and see it's already running systemd, and all
required packages are installed, so I pulled the plug on
sysvinit(completely removed) and it still boots. :)
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On Du, 10 aug 14, 10:46:56, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from
> internet ;)
...
> What should I
On Du, 10 aug 14, 22:22:20, Sven Hartge wrote:
>
> All other were mostly misconfigrations which kinda worked before,
> because sysvinit was more forgiving or just papered over the error, for
> example unavailable volumes during boot without "nofail" or "_netdev".
It's also very unforgiving of wro
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 14:50:30 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> The oldhost is running exim4 light, while newhost is running
> exim4-heavy.
Exim is only involved after the mail is collected.
> But still the configuration files look the same.. I'm not seeing a
> reason why one is more verbose than th
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>Sven Hartge wrote:
>> All other were mostly misconfigrations which kinda worked before,
>> because sysvinit was more forgiving or just papered over the error, for
>> example unavailable volumes during boot without "nofail" or "_netdev".
>
> It's also very unforgiving of wron
On 8/11/14, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote:
>> I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly
>> old. Seems to be no way to run them.
>>
>> Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of
>> all this complains that the .wine
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Description: Binary data
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:30:14 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 03:56:14PM -0400, AW wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> > > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2
> > > files, you should be safe with the 5
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 08:26:35PM -0400, John Holland wrote:
> working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot
> http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583&cid=47639701
Cool thanks!
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > I'm posting to the list instead of privately sending it to you, so
> > others can comment or correct errors.
>
> You asked for it :p
>
> > III. INSTALL X
> >
> > A. Quick & Dirty, but bl
On 08/11/2014 03:27 AM, David Baron wrote:
I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems
to be no way to run them.
Wine64 complains about the .exe format.
What about installing a hypervisor under amd64, creating a Wheezy i386
VM, and running Wine on the VM?
D
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 02:06:28PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Mike McClain a ?crit :
> >
> > Clearly DNS lookup is working and I have a problem with the
> > configuration of IE.
>
> Check in its network settings whether a proxy is defined, and remove it.
Hi Pascal,
Nope, no proxy.
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