Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread David Christensen
On 02/08/2014 10:29 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote: Now, If I remove my hdd and plug it in the dell laptop and then boot the laptop? Understand that if the HDD has bad electronics, anything you plug it into could be damaged. I always keep an old desktop machine around as my "workbench". If I smo

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Understand that if the HDD has bad electronics, anything you plug it into > could be damaged. > Do you have an anti-static wrist strap and spare anti-static bags? No, But I got myself a meeting with my friend who runs a laptop repairing shop, who is willing to give me access to his hdd casing.

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread David Christensen
On 02/08/2014 11:57 PM, Schlacta, Christ wrote: ... panels that also protect ram or any other pcbs, you generally shouldn't run system with those covers missing. +1 Wikipedia has it in fairly simple words: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Hotplug "The Serial ATA Spec includes lo

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Have you checked the OP's hard drive and friend's laptop for SATA hot-plug > interoperability specification compliance? Although I am a CS student, I should better wait, and not put my friend's hdd in jeopardy. I will report what happens when I get my hands on the casing and connect the broken h

installing debian

2014-02-09 Thread Allan H
I was referred to you.. Is it possible to totally replace the android system on my 7" asus memo with debian? Thank you Allan -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread David Christensen
On 02/08/2014 11:55 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote: I wanted to partition the hdd,but now my hdd has been corrupt ... My next step would be to download, burn, and run the HDD manufacturer's diagnostic tool. Again, beware that bad HDD electronics can damage whatever you plug the HDD into, so choose

Re: more than 12G of RAM

2014-02-09 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:20:49 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 Gigabyte 970A-D3P board with an FX6100 > processor. I had 2x4G DDR3 sticks in it but some of the programs I > use were causing excessive thrashing. I added a 1x8G DDR3 stick (got > a good price on it, much cheap

Re: installing debian

2014-02-09 Thread Robin
On 9 February 2014 08:52, Allan H wrote: > I was referred to you.. > Is it possible to totally replace the android system on my 7" asus memo with > debian? > Thank you > Allan > Haven't tried it but check out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid -- rob

Re: How to block kernel updates

2014-02-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 01:40:59 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 08 feb 14, 22:43:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > I'm quite happy to let it go on upgrading itself as it has so far. > > If I mess with it I shall only cause myself problems. The > > developers know way more than I do! > > Installin

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 11:24:54AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > > What happens if you post the laptop, then engage the hard drive after you > > boot into a Linux live usb? > > You mean to say, I should remove my hdd, boot my laptop using a usb, > and then connect the hdd live into the laptop? >

Re: more than 12G of RAM

2014-02-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 2/9/2014 3:32 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:20:49 -0500 > Gary Dale wrote: > >> I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 Gigabyte 970A-D3P board with an FX6100 >> processor. I had 2x4G DDR3 sticks in it but some of the programs I >> use were causing excessive thrashing. I added a

images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with revision control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm editing, whether it's a line drawing (like inkscape) or a pixel map. And I'd like to keep the whole thing under revision control (like monotone, or git, or such.

How to `echo' the core # a bash script is running on?

2014-02-09 Thread Marco Ippolito
How can I `echo', in `bash', the core # the current script is running on? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9d338da3-13ad-468f-840a-8dd11f881...@gmail.co

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Henning Follmann
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 12:28:45PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with revision > control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm editing, > whether it's a line drawing (like inkscape) or a pixel map. > I think that doesn't e

Re: more than 12G of RAM

2014-02-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/02/14 06:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 2/9/2014 3:32 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:20:49 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 Gigabyte 970A-D3P board with an FX6100 processor. I had 2x4G DDR3 sticks in it but some of the programs I use were causing

GRUB seems to confuse md boot device and its spares

2014-02-09 Thread Ari Epstein
I'm having peculiar difficulties getting grub to boot from a RAID1 md. The machine has four drives, and the md (which contains / as well as /boot) is on sdc1 and sdd1. sda1 and sdb1 were once configured as spares though at the moment they are not connected to the raid at all. The grub.cfg has th

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 01:12:06 -0800 David Christensen wrote: ... > diagnostic tool. Again, beware that bad HDD electronics can damage > whatever you plug the HDD into, so choose your Guinea pigs carefully: Never heard that before, but I'm certainly no expert on such things. Do have further inf

Re: GRUB seems to confuse md boot device and its spares

2014-02-09 Thread Ari Epstein
A footnote to this. I did mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1 and mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb1, and now the output from update grub is different: error: superfluous RAID member (2 found). error: superfluous RAID member (2 found). error: disk missing. error: disk missing. error: sup

Re: more than 12G of RAM

2014-02-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 2/9/2014 8:27 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 09/02/14 06:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 2/9/2014 3:32 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:20:49 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 Gigabyte 970A-D3P board with an FX6100 processor. I had 2x4G DDR3 sticks in it but s

Re: installing debian

2014-02-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 10:49:10AM +, Robin wrote: > On 9 February 2014 08:52, Allan H wrote: > > I was referred to you.. > > Is it possible to totally replace the android system on my 7" asus memo with > > debian? > > Thank you > > Allan > > > > Haven't tried it but check out > https://play.

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 2/9/2014 2:57 AM, Schlacta, Christ wrote: On Feb 8, 2014 10:27 PM, "David Christensen" mailto:dpchr...@holgerdanske.com>> wrote: > > On 02/08/2014 09:54 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote: >> >> You mean to say, I should remove my hdd, boot my laptop using a usb, >> and then connect the hdd live in

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:07:57 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 12:28:45PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with >> revision control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm >> editing, whether it's a line dr

Re: postfix: maildir-style delivery with external MDA?

2014-02-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 08 feb 14, 23:50:06, Markus Schönhaber wrote: > > No other suggestions but one I already made: check maildrop's > documentation. That will hopefully help you to find out why maildrop > fails to connect to (courier's?) authdaemon. WAG: permissions of the the > corresponding socket are wrong.

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Richard Owlett
Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with revision control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm editing, whether it's a line drawing (like inkscape) or a pixel map. [snip] You didn't say much about your actual drawing mixture. You might

Re: How to `echo' the core # a bash script is running on?

2014-02-09 Thread Mathias Bauer
Marco, * Marco Ippolito wrote on 2014-02-09 at 13:24 (+0100): > How can I `echo', in `bash', the core # the current script is > running on? you can try $ grep ^processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l Short question - short answer, Mathias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debi

Re: How to `echo' the core # a bash script is running on?

2014-02-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 feb 14, 18:14:29, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Marco, > > * Marco Ippolito wrote on 2014-02-09 at 13:24 (+0100): > > > How can I `echo', in `bash', the core # the current script is > > running on? > > you can try > > $ grep ^processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l I think the OP wants to know on

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 10:47:11 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with >> revision control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm >> editing, whether it's a line drawing (like inkscape) or a pixel map. >> [sn

Re: Using loop devices in Debian

2014-02-09 Thread Richard Owlett
Richard Owlett wrote: Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. [SNIP paragraphs which confused everyone. Thanks to those those who tried.] I'm looking for something which expands on the first half dozen paragraphs

Re: images that play nicely with revision control?

2014-02-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 08:07:57AM -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 12:28:45PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I'm looking for a file format for images that plays nicely with revision > > control. Ideally I'd like to edit them while seeing what I'm editing, > > whether

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread darkestkhan
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jon N wrote: > Hi, > > I installed Jessie on a new computer about 2 months ago. I needed > Jessie to support my network interface. Since then I noticed that I > seeing almost no updates in Synaptic, or when using apt-get. During > the same period on my old comput

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 feb 14, 18:05:52, darkestkhan wrote: > > Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm should > even work - considering that it is basically testing for the time being. Of course it works. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic d

Embed text into video file and search video from text?

2014-02-09 Thread Nick Lidakis
I have a text file that includes time stamps. I also have video (H.264, MPEG-4 or JPEG stills) recorded from an IP camera. I'm trying to find a way to jump to certain points of he videos based on events in the text file at hand. The text file is generated from an RS-232 port. The IP camera, from

Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Markos
Dear all, Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD 8? The link for 7.4 does not exist: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/ And the link for 7.3: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/ I found only the links until the CD 8. But the

Re: How to `echo' the core # a bash script is running on?

2014-02-09 Thread Mathias Bauer
* Andrei POPESCU wrote on 2014-02-09 at 19:36 (+0200): > On Du, 09 feb 14, 18:14:29, Mathias Bauer wrote: > > * Marco Ippolito wrote on 2014-02-09 at 13:24 (+0100): > > > > > How can I `echo', in `bash', the core # the current script > > > is running on? > > > > you can try > > > > $ grep ^proces

Re: Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Marius Gavrilescu
Markos writes: > Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD 8? > > The link for 7.4 does not exist: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/ > > And the link for 7.3: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/ > > I found only the links unti

How to use de "update" CDs?

2014-02-09 Thread Markos
Hi All, I'm planning to download the CDs : http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso and http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-2.iso to install Wheezy on a laptop. But I don't know how to use the CDs "Upda

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM, darkestkhan wrote: > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jon N wrote: >> >> deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free >> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates non-free contrib main >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie m

Re: How to use de "update" CDs?

2014-02-09 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 9. Februar 2014, 16:47:30 schrieb Markos: > Hi All, > > I'm planning to download the CDs : > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-xfce > -CD-1.iso > > > and > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-2 > .iso

Re: Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:04:18 -0200 Markos wrote: > Dear all, > > Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD > 8? > > The link for 7.4 does not exist: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/ > > And the link for 7.3: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-

Re: How to use de "update" CDs?

2014-02-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 04:47:30PM -0200, Markos wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm planning to download the CDs : > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso > > > and > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-2.iso > >

Re: Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 04:04:18PM -0200, Markos wrote: > Dear all, > > Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD 8? > > The link for 7.4 does not exist: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/ > > And the link for 7.3: > http://cdimage.debian.org/debi

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 08:27:15AM -0800, David Guntner wrote: > > It's not just a matter of capacity. I've got a 1TB drive, and I still > partition them into separate sections: > > > $ df -k > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used > > Available Use% Mounte

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 12:31:06PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > yaro wrote: > > Separate /usr is unneeded and actually complicates boot for little benefit. > > It allows you to mount it read-only (or not at all when there's a > problem). It only complicates boot due to the practice of putting

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Doug
On 02/09/2014 04:05 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: /snip/ On W On Linux, there are three possibilities which mitigate all these things: 1) Use LVM. You can use the entire drive as a single physical volume (PV) and then carve it up into separate logical volumes (LVs). This allows exactly the s

Re: Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Markos
On 09-02-2014 17:15, Marius Gavrilescu wrote: Markos writes: Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD 8? The link for 7.4 does not exist: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/ And the link for 7.3: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i38

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:23:27 -0500 Doug wrote: > > > I don't understand LVM, but I tried to install some distro just to > learn about it, and it would only install using LVM, which meant > that it would only install on the entire hard drive. No partitions, > no Windows, no nothing. I installed i

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Doug
On 02/09/2014 05:04 PM, Joe wrote: On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:23:27 -0500 Doug wrote: I don't understand LVM, but I tried to install some distro just to learn about it, and it would only install using LVM, which meant that it would only install on the entire hard drive. No partitions, no Windows,

Re: Where are the CD 9, 10 ... for Debian Wheezy?

2014-02-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:04:18 -0200 Markos wrote: Hello Markos, >Please, where are the iso CD (i386) for Debian Wheezy beyond the CD 8? It's extremely rare that anybody needs all 68 disk images. What are you trying to achieve? -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 09 February 2014 18:05:52 darkestkhan wrote: > Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm > should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the > time being. The beauty of using the name, Jessie, instead of Testing is that when Jessie becomes Stabl

Re: more than 12G of RAM

2014-02-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 2/9/2014 7:27 AM, Gary Dale wrote: > On 09/02/14 06:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 2/9/2014 3:32 AM, Efraim Flashner wrote: >>> On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:20:49 -0500 >>> Gary Dale wrote: >>> I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 Gigabyte 970A-D3P board with an FX6100 processor. I had 2x4G DD

Missing resolutions, xrandr and nvidia

2014-02-09 Thread Alex Naysmith
With Debian Wheezy installed, I have the Geforce 6800 GT graphics card. The screen flickers every few seconds with the default nouveau drivers. I therefore installed the version 304.88 nvidia drivers [1]. These drivers enable 3D acceleration as well as eliminate the screen flickering. However, I h

gcc and associated pkgs

2014-02-09 Thread Brad Alexander
What versions of gcc is it safe to remove? I have gcc 4.{1..8} installed on a box, and I'm fairly sure I can get rid of at least 4.1 - 4.6. Also, what associated packages should be removed with it? Should I get rid of equivalent versions of gcc, gcc-base, cpp? Anything else? Thanks, --b

unstable and vbox additions

2014-02-09 Thread briand
Howdy, Trying to install virtual box guest additions but getting "Unknown version of the X window system". I've found various fixes that involve hacking the install script to allow it to proceed but all my attempts to do so have failed. What's particularly confusing is that the script has de

Re: unstable and vbox additions

2014-02-09 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Migrate to virt-manager,spice and KVM. vbox is broken and unsupported. -Joel On 10 February 2014 12:49, wrote: > Howdy, > > Trying to install virtual box guest additions but getting > > "Unknown version of the X window system". > > I've found various fixes that involve hacking the install scri

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Schlacta, Christ
> > 3) Use ZFS. Allocate the drive as a single zpool. You can then create >zfs volumes for all the separate bits. However, you don't have the >space wastage issues since all the data is in a single pool, and >you can adjust the size allocations/quotas on demand for each >individu

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Jon N
On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 09 February 2014 18:05:52 darkestkhan wrote: >> Personally I'm dubious if using `jessie` instead of `testing` atm >> should even work - considering that it is basically testing for the >> time being. > > The beauty of using the name, Je

Add a separate /home after installation?

2014-02-09 Thread Jon N
Hi, When I installed Debian I put everything in one partition. Now I'm wondering what I was thinking. / is ext4 for mated on a drive with eufi partition table, no raid or lvm. My thought is if I can shrink that and create a new partition I can copy over /home and then mount it as /home. I am p

Re: unstable and vbox additions

2014-02-09 Thread briand
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:33:38 +1300 Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > Migrate to virt-manager,spice and KVM. > > vbox is broken and unsupported. > these packages look like they are for linux as host and windows as guest. i'm using windows as the host and linux as the guest. ? Brian -- To UNSUB

Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.

2014-02-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 2/10/14, Schlacta, Christ wrote: >> 3) Use ZFS. Allocate the drive as a single zpool. You can then create >> I've tried all three. For Linux, using LVM is easy and can be done > I use zfs with debian wheezy, and am migrating to using zfs almost > ZFS is awesome, and I've never lost any d

Re: gcc and associated pkgs

2014-02-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 06:29:27PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: > What versions of gcc is it safe to remove? I have gcc 4.{1..8} installed on > a box, and I'm fairly sure I can get rid of at least 4.1 - 4.6. Also, what > associated packages should be removed with it? Should I get rid of > equivalen

Re: Add a separate /home after installation?

2014-02-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/02/14 12:45, Jon N wrote: > Hi, > > When I installed Debian I put everything in one partition. Now I'm > wondering what I was thinking. / is ext4 for mated on a drive with > eufi partition table, no raid or lvm. My thought is if I can shrink > that and create a new partition I can copy ov

Re: Updating not working as expected

2014-02-09 Thread Marko Randjelovic
Use "apt-cache policy" to see what are your repositories' priorities, and than adjust them in /etc/apt/preferences. That synaptic option probably changes Default-Release in apt.conf[.d/], but, I don't recommend it because I think it's simpler to specify everyting in /etc/apt/preferences. -- http:

Debian freezes while booting

2014-02-09 Thread fa-ml
Hello Debian users, I recently bought a gluglug X60s laptop and once received I installed Debian on it (wheezy i386). The installation was done using the netinstall CD; I only installed base system plus laptop programs and apt-get install'd other stuff (xorg, alsa, etc.) later on. The pro

nm-applet reports 802.11 connected, but can't actually communicate over network?

2014-02-09 Thread Carl Fink
I'm trying to use my Testing system with a Realtek rtl8188ce 802.11 adapter. I use Gnome's nm-applet to connect to the wireless access point, and it accepts the passphrase and connects, fine. However, all attempts to do anything over the network fail, e.g. ping, traceroute, attempts to open a web p