CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hello, somehow my computer does not automatically pop up with a message when I enter a CD or DVD. Not in KDE, GNOME or XFCE. There is no automatic action at all. I can not even see any log entries when closing the CD tray with a new CD. But it used to work in the past. This is a new issue to me

Re: how to activate php in apache

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >>does not work in /var/ (with 644 permissions) > > > >How did /var/www get 644 permissions? That is also incorrect. > > > > chmod u=rwx,go+rx /var/www > > 'x' is not required for Apache php scripts. Unlike PHP CLI, the > script itself is not an e

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 03.12.2013 08:59, schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Hello, > > somehow my computer does not automatically pop up with a message when I enter > a CD or DVD. Not in KDE, GNOME or XFCE. There is no automatic action at all. > I can not even see any log entries when closing the CD tray with a new CD

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:03 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Am 03.12.2013 08:59, schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Hello, > > > > somehow my computer does not automatically pop up with a message when I > > enter a CD or DVD. Not in KDE, GNOME or XFCE. There is no automatic action > > at all

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:03 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > > Am 03.12.2013 08:59, schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > > Hello, > > > > > > somehow my computer does not automatically pop up with a message when I > > > enter a CD or DVD.

Re: Linux' (and other OS's) code patterns present in device drivers, the kernel and userland code ...

2013-12-03 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Albretch Mueller writes: > > All programming languages have "the language" with its grammar, operators, > > oddities which are a result of trying to shoe-horn too much into an > > "elegant" grammar only to see springs start to poke through the fabric. > ~ > yet, since all languages are synt

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > AP wrote: > > ...snip... > > > It is really wonder to know that Debian doesn't include them because > > > of yet another war of licensewhatever...If the actual code is > > > free, still such issues arise is a wonder to think

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 03.12.2013 09:15, schrieb Ralf Mardorf: >>> I have to add that I can mount the CD manually (mount /dev/sr0 >>> /media/cdrom) without problem. >> >> What was upgraded? Take a look at /var/log/apt/history.log, synaptics >> history or what ever you are using to upgrade. > > http://askubuntu.com/

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 01:21 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > It was really about the nonfree logos. A painful situation. You can > read all about it here. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel I know the story, but I wasn't aware about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceweasel_13.pn

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:26 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > /var/log/apt/history.log only contains entries from today, but the > problem is already a few days old. Dont know when it occured the first > time because I am not handling CDs that often. "To view the logs available: ls -la /var/lo

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
And what I also find strange is, that I do not see ANY log entry when I close the tray with a new CD. Not in syslog, daemon.log, messages or user.log. Can this be a dbus issue? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:23 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Can this be a dbus issue? MO it could, but as written off-list in German, udev might be the culprit too. And for GNOME-like DE's such as Xfce, it should be the task of gvfs, while for KDE it might be KIO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:23 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > > Can this be a dbus issue? > > MO it could, but as written off-list in German, udev might be the > culprit too. And for GNOME-like DE's such as Xfce, it should be the task > o

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 03 dec 13, 07:56:50, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 20:15 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I always install Thunderbird if I am setting up a Windows box for > > someone. Well, I did when I still had to have contact with Windows. > > And the same for Firefox. Now that Google Chr

Re: how to activate php in apache

2013-12-03 Thread François Patte
Le 03/12/2013 00:14, Bob Proulx a écrit : > François Patte wrote: >> I'd like to anable php with apache web server. >> >> apache2 is installed >> php5 is installed. >> apache php module is activated > > The above is just too vague and ambiguous. Do you mean this? Where is the ambiguity? > > a

Re: aptitude: cancel intended install

2013-12-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 03 dec 13, 12:21:46, Richard Hector wrote: > > That doesn't remove all those packages from the list. Is that a bug? Is > there another way to cancel these planned installations? I think that's > doable with interactive aptitude, but I'd rather stick with the > commandline if I can. aptitud

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I used it for years, it was and likely is excellent, but not a native > Linux app and as already mentioned before, I dislike the Mozilla policy. Well, I would say some people like the Mozilla policy and some not. Its personalthough. --

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Phishing = faked web sites that ask you to give passwords etc. have nothing > to do with the used operating system. Oh I see. > Attacks that use buffer overflows and other bugs or weak points are the less > likely, the less the software is u

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:24 PM, wrote: > Personally, I use KMail. It's a lot less resource intensive than Thunderbird > (Called Icedove in Debian.), does the job well, and integrates with KDE SC, > including Plasma and Kontact. Thunderbird doesn't integrate well even in > "native" GTK+ environm

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: > Thunderbird is excellent. Have been using it exclusively for several years, > ever since > KMail screwed me by printing about 5% of my incoming mail in some Asian > script > that could not be recovered into English. Oh I see. Anyways, you c

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Mozilla software is excellent regarding to technically aspects, but not > regarding to > freedom. Your mean privacy? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Yes, millions of hackers are looking at the code too, not only the "good > guys" ;). It's more interesting to find _and use_ the one and only > security whole to get access to the French military and your private > mails and data, than to fin

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote: > And just sacrifice something else useful to the great god FOSS! Yeah, FOSS is computer's God nowadays;)- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@

Re: Linux' (and other OS's) code patterns present in device drivers, the kernel and userland code ...

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I'm sorry, I still don't fully understand the point you are trying to make, but I'll try... On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:26:04PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > as I mentioned in relation to adler32's hashing implementation, there > are quite a few important libraries heavily using it: > ~ > > h

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM, wrote: > I prefer Google anyway, though, as I have yet to see a search engine that > works nearly as well. I know a lot of people rave about Duck Duck Go, but > every time I use it it loves to bring up results in an order that doesn't hit > the same sort of relev

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > In the end, suck it and see. No email client is perfect. Most are > good. How many people use it is not necessarily a good criterion. > Think of Outlook and Outlook Express! I agree with you Lisi that no email client is 100% perfect and the

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:28 AM, John Hasler wrote: >> The email clients continuously emulate each other... > Except for Gnus. Why this is an exception? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Roughly, Mozilla said that they had to have the last word on anything > going out under their copyright. Debian said taht they had to have > the last word on any packages going into the official repositories. > These two were incompatible. > S

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Yes, I have experience of it. It is good email client. But I > personally do not like it as much as many people do. It used to be > much better for newbies than other clients, but I think that that is > no longer true. > Depending on circums

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The last time I wanted to test Thunderbird again, some month ago, > it opened with advertisings. Okay, that's why you feel the other one is better...ok, fair enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and > senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To > the extent that your environment is known to the phishers they have > you at a disadvantage. Note that I

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:38 +0530, AP wrote: > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > Mozilla software is excellent regarding to technically aspects, but not > > regarding to > > freedom. > > Your mean privacy? Yes + the whole "philosophy" isn't too _my_ taste. -- To

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:39 +0530, AP wrote: > But then developers should create such clients which have such codes > that are [...] not possible to hack Everything can be hacked, it's a race! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:59 +0530, AP wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. > > But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. Yes, regarding to the open source code. But simply start using some MUAs ;).

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 12:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:59 +0530, AP wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > > > > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. > > > > But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. > > Yes,

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le 03/12/2013 11:18, AP a écrit : [...] It seems that your mail client breaks threads. I see all your mails as new threads, disconnected from thoses you're responded to. Not easy to read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
You don't need to be subscribe, to take a look at mailing lists archives or to read forums ;). Take a look at lists and forms for the MUAs and make your own opinion, when on mailing lists and forums, distros are blamed for bugs. If there is less good compatibility to older versions of the MUA or if

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > It seems that your mail client breaks threads. > I see all your mails as new threads, disconnected from thoses you're > responded to. Yes it is agreed because I heard it a type of Mozilla bug too! I am not sure of it and that's why have de

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Everything can be hacked, it's a race! Agreed but what I meant is that as soon as something is hacked/prone to be hacked, developers can do the proper required patching or editing the code so that the existing hole can be blocked. If a furthe

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Since you're using KDE (IIRC), start with using KMail. If you should use a MUA based on something else, but Qt, you might experience theme and icon issues. Those issues can be solved, but then you need to install more dependencies than you might want to install and you need to learn more, than you

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A last note to this thread, I won't reply again too this thread. "Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives (also known as Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law) is usually rendered: Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment" - Wiki What MUA should I use, Kmail or Thunderbird? is anal

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Since you're using KDE (IIRC), start with using KMail. If you should use > a MUA based on something else, but Qt, you might experience theme and > icon issues. Those issues can be solved, but then you need to install > more dependencies than y

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You already said: "I guess our life is a race!" > and we know the end of the race ;), the end is some kind of "issue" ;p. The end is not any kind of issue because the end is sure and this is known. If you call it an issue, I can call it an e

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:12 +0530, AP wrote: > You concluded very well. I guess I must start with KMail because of > the K-factor (yes, I am on KDE). And then later can try Thunderbird > and Evolution. I just asked about Thunderbird with a bit more emphasis > because I just heard it here and there.

Re: how to activate php in apache

2013-12-03 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: > You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is > written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of > course, 755 permissions). > > Re-reading my first message, I can't see any extra w in /var/www ! http://lists.d

Re: how to activate php in apache[solved]

2013-12-03 Thread François Patte
Le 03/12/2013 14:07, Linux-Fan a écrit : > On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: >> You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is >> written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of >> course, 755 permissions). >> >> Re-reading my first message, I can'

Re: cifs mount problem

2013-12-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Password: Password for root@//wehd/hdd: Please note the difference for the 2 paswword requests. I suppose that this can help to explain the difference of behaviour between the 2 nachines. forget this: it's just becaus the cifs-utils versions a

Evolution - Error to empty the trash

2013-12-03 Thread Markos
Hi, I can't empty the trash folder. I see an error message when I do that "File > Empty Trash" How can I do it manually? I read the tutorial at http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/cant-empty-evolution-trash-bin-–-error-while-expunging-folder/ but didn't work. I'm using POP server, Evo

"Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:19 +0530, AP wrote: > close this thread now Then it's time for me to post this link: http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I disagree ;), for me there still is no best or "less best". I

Re: how to activate php in apache

2013-12-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/3/2013 3:03 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: does not work in /var/ (with 644 permissions) How did /var/www get 644 permissions? That is also incorrect. chmod u=rwx,go+rx /var/www 'x' is not required for Apache php scripts. Unlike PHP CLI, the scr

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
AP writes: > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal > information It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no referrers. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UN

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
AP writes: > Why this is [Gnus] an exception? Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

L2TP VPN configuration

2013-12-03 Thread Rob Owens
I've followed a couple different tutorials on the internet, but I haven't been able to use L2TP to connect to a VPN from my Wheezy desktop. Connecting from an Android device works, so I know the server and my credentials are ok. Has anybody on the list successfully connected to a VPN using L2TP?

Re: how to activate php in apache[solved]

2013-12-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/3/2013 8:18 AM, François Patte wrote: Le 03/12/2013 14:07, Linux-Fan a écrit : On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of course, 755 permissions). Re-

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:19:27 AM John Hasler wrote: > Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. Well. -- Thanks & Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:16:33 AM John Hasler wrote: > > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal > > information > It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine > with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no referrers. Does

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 02:42:10 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Then it's time for me to post this link: > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I disagree ;), > for me there still is no best or "less best". I

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread yaro
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:12:36 AM Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > .snip. > > > Oh, that does clear it up. But again, I don't see that as a "free vs. > > nonfree" issue. Most software will choose defaul

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Siard
AP: > John Hasler: > > AP: > > > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's > > > personal information > > > It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works > > fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no > > referrers. > > Doesn't it store cook

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 05:00:49 PM Siard wrote: > JH means: Google search still works fine when you refuse cookies. Oh I see, you mean like using BetterPrivacy type Addons...right. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Pinning OwnCloud

2013-12-03 Thread Veljko
Hello, I'm trying to install owncloud-client. It's in testing repository and is not compatible with some libraries. It seams that version from http://software.opensuse.org/download is working OK with wheezy. With that repository, aptitude does not complain. If I remove testing from sources.list e

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > [Google search] won't collect anything you don't give it. Google > search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and > no referrers. AP writes: > Doesn't it store cookies? Only if you allow it to. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBS

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
AP writes: > Oh I see, you mean like using BetterPrivacy type Addons...right. You don't need addons to refuse cookies. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:12:50 AM John Hasler wrote: > You don't need addons to refuse cookies. Well, what I know is that by default it saves and it never prompted me to ask if to store or not. By my own decision I had to install Better Privacy and then I was assured for it. Can you ple

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > You don't need addons to refuse cookies. AP writes: > Well, what I know is that by default it saves and it never prompted me > to ask if to store or not. By my own decision I had to install Better > Privacy and then I was assured for it. Can you please elaborate the > other method...?

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/3/2013 9:22 AM, AP wrote: On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:16:33 AM John Hasler wrote: Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal information It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:02:17 AM John Hasler wrote: > Iceweasel -> Preferences -> Privacy -> follow instructions Or: Firefox -> Preferences -> Privacy -> follow instructions Thanks. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Stopping early crypto disks fails

2013-12-03 Thread Volker Wysk
Hi ! I've encrypted my hard drives, but when I shut down the computer, amongst the shutdown messages, I get the following message: [fail] Stopping early crypto disks vg-root_crypt (busy) failed I'm wondering what's goin on, and if there needs to be done something about it. Except for the messa

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread AP
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used > cookies that is evil. Unless you did a bank transaction! -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread John Hasler
Please read this: -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87haa

RE: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
-Original Message- From: John Hasler [mailto:jhas...@newsguy.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related Please read this: -- John Hasler

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Brad Alexander
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:19 +0530, AP wrote: > > close this thread now > > Then it's time for me to post this link: > > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MU

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:02 +0630, AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 02:42:10 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Then it's time for me to post this link: > > > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > > > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I dis

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:38 -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > Google Yesno, people who use twitter and facebook don't need to care about a Google search ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/3/2013 10:58 AM, AP wrote: On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used cookies that is evil. Unless you did a bank transaction! And exactly what is wrong with using cookies on a bank transaction?

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 12:29 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: John Hasler [mailto:jhas...@newsguy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:17 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related > > Ple

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm a dyslexic and spell checking is > a default for all MUAs I use ... but not really helpful. Spell checking > doesn't notice the difference between "be" and "bee" or "then" and > "than", it still allows me to write as an idiot :D.

OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 13:35 -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > I'm a dyslexic and spell checking is > > a default for all MUAs I use ... but not really helpful. Spell checking > > doesn't notice the difference between "be" and "bee" or "

Re: aptitude: cancel intended install

2013-12-03 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 03/12/13 12:55, Tom H wrote: >> >> I don't know whether or not it's a bug but this should work: >> >> aptitude remove $(aptitude search ~ainstall -F%p) > > That's great, thanks - the -F option is new to me and will be very > useful :-) Y

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

2013-12-03 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:38:00 +0100 Ralf Mardorf napísal: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:23 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > > > Can this be a dbus issue? > > > > MO it could, but as written off-list in German, udev might be the >

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 03:56:21PM +0530, AP wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > > Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and > > senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To > > the extent that your environment is kno

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 08:51:44PM +0630, AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:19:27 AM John Hasler wrote: > > > Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. > > Well. A wonderful post, filled with information. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/3/2013 2:24 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 03:56:21PM +0530, AP wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To the exten

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: Hello Robert, >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or >typing. That's true of course. I think AP's point (expressed poorly perhaps) is that a phishing email will likely contain a link to a web site that imperso

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 19:45 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > Hello Robert, > > >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or > >typing. > > That's true of course. I think AP's point (expressed poorly perhaps) is > t

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:16 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 19:45 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 > > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > Hello Robert, > > > > >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or > > >typing. > > > > T

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:38:51AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:12:36 AM Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > > > .snip. > > > > > Oh, that does clear it up. But again, I don't

Re: cifs mount problem

2013-12-03 Thread David Christensen
On 12/03/2013 05:22 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Still waiting for help, if possible. You might want to try the Samba mailing list: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 01:07:59PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: ...snip... > > You can use all of the mentioned MUAs. > > Kmail, Evolution, Sylpheed-Claws, Thunderbird/Icedove and Opera, they > all are usable. Regarding to security there are other options, that are > independent

plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it ceased having anything to do with Debian Linux quite a while ago. Let's move on to something worthwhile. -

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Joe
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:28:31 +0630 AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used > > cookies that is evil. > > Unless you did a bank transaction! > One would hope that no bank was stupid eno

Re: Problem Installing VMWare Tools in Debian Testing/Jessie

2013-12-03 Thread Jacek Waluk
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Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts > (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being > productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it ceased having > anything to do with Debian Lin

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 12/3/2013 2:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being >> productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread David Guntner
Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being >> productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And i

Re: OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 20:03:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Grammar checking doesn't work until today, but psychotherapy done by > ELIZA is quite close to a real psychotherapy ;). I really fear the > weapon systems that are "perfect" and should not cause collateral > damages. Some of my childhood

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:22 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 12/3/2013 2:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts > >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Brian
On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 21:21:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I guess much more exemplary than "child porn detection" is "virus > detection". > > "We detect a virus on you Windows install", on a Linux only machine ;). > > There must be some hidden Windows installs with tons of child porn > routeki

Re: OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:38 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 20:03:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Grammar checking doesn't work until today, but psychotherapy done by > > ELIZA is quite close to a real psychotherapy ;). I really fear the > > weapon systems that are "perfect" and sh

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