mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I have these messages from mdadm: mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory /dev/md/4 : mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/5: No such file or directory /dev/md/5 : Of course I haven't these directories, I have /dev/md[0-5] instead. Why does mdadm is searching there directories

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Itay
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 17:16:02 +0200 (IST) Itay wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: [...] Is there anything suspicious in the root mailbox? root mail box has daily messages like this starting at june 2010 (yes, I know, bad me) /etc/cron.daily/logrota

Re: Multiple dpkg warning (non-empty directories) during upgrade to wheezy

2013-11-04 Thread Itay
On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 13:29:37 +0400 From: Reco To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Multiple dpkg warning (non-empty directories) during upgrade to wheezy Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 09:30:08 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Shawn Wilson
I can't see how a default config would do this, but do you have SELinux or AppArmor enabled? What does fstab and mount show? If possible, copy the system off and write ones and then zeros to the disk (and look for speed drops). Looking at the disk might've been a good call. Itay wrote: >On S

Re: Bash Scripting Question

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
The tool 'yes' can be used to write an infinite stream of strings (the default being 'y') to standard output, so if your program needed only a sequence of a fixed string such as 'y', you could do > yes | your-program or > yes "some-other-string" | your-program But if your program is not readin

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread berenger . morel
Le 03.11.2013 10:23, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:58:45 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: _ sysvinit scripts are scripts. Scripts needs programming skills, and the sh language does not have an easy to read syntax. I would in fact call it rather obscure compare

Re: Multiple dpkg warning (non-empty directories) during upgrade to wheezy

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:27:57 +0200 (IST) Itay wrote: > Thanks for helping me out on this, too. > Using your advice I was able to further clean-up. > > I was left with two puzzling cases in which an orphan directory > contains dpkg'ed files. > > 1. /etc/openoffice > > # dpkg -S /etc/openoffice

spam when I reply to debian mailing list : "Festival Shutdown : Re: ...."

2013-11-04 Thread berenger . morel
Hi. I have what seems an automated spam when I send a mail to the ml. It takes back the subject but adds it "Festival Shutdown : ". Am I the only one with this issue, please? Here is the exact content of that spam: Original Message Subject: Festival Shutdown : Re: Init syst

Re: spam when I reply to debian mailing list : "Festival Shutdown : Re: ...."

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
You are not the only one with this problem. If it frustrates you, please bring it to the listmasters attention. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2013110

Re: spam when I reply to debian mailing list : "Festival Shutdown : Re: ...."

2013-11-04 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 11:27:32AM CET, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org said: > Hi. > > I have what seems an automated spam when I send a mail to the ml. > > It takes back the subject but adds it "Festival Shutdown : ". Am I > the only one with this issue, please? > > Here is the exact content of

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
Well, I have good news and bad news. On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:57:18 +0200 (IST) Itay wrote: > > [...] Is there anything suspicious in the root mailbox? > > root mail box has daily messages like this starting at june 2010 > (yes, I know, bad me) > > /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: > >gz

[SOLVED] Multiple dpkg warning (non-empty directories) during upgrade to wheezy

2013-11-04 Thread Itay
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:27:57 +0200 (IST) Itay wrote: Thanks for helping me out on this, too. Using your advice I was able to further clean-up. I was left with two puzzling cases in which an orphan directory contains dpkg'ed files. 1. /etc/openoffice # dpkg -S

Re: spam when I reply to debian mailing list : "Festival Shutdown : Re: ...."

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:27:32 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Hi. > > I have what seems an automated spam when I send a mail to the ml. > > It takes back the subject but adds it "Festival Shutdown : ". Am I the > only one with this issue, please? > No, I get that too. Given the e-

Re: mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread Holger Stein
Am 04.11.2013 09:28, schrieb François Patte: > Bonjour, > > I have these messages from mdadm: > > mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory > /dev/md/4 : > mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/5: No such file or directory > /dev/md/5 : > > Of course I haven't these directories, I have /de

Re: mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread Holger Stein
Am 04.11.2013 09:28, schrieb François Patte: > Bonjour, > > I have these messages from mdadm: > > mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory > /dev/md/4 : > mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/5: No such file or directory > /dev/md/5 : > > Of course I haven't these directories, I have /de

[SOLVED] Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Itay
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: [skip] The good news are - both cron and logrotate are working as intended on your system. At least, they try their best. [skip] And the bad news are - your drive is failing. And you've already lost some data (best scenario - some contents of /var/log/syslog)

Re: mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread François Patte
Le 04/11/2013 11:28, Holger Stein a écrit : > Am 04.11.2013 09:28, schrieb François Patte: >> Bonjour, >> >> I have these messages from mdadm: >> >> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory >> /dev/md/4 : >> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/5: No such file or directory >> /dev/md/5 : >>

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Itay
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Shawn Wilson wrote: Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 04:46:48 -0500 For some reason your messages ended up in a differenet mailbox, therefore I saw them only now. Sorry about that. As was recommended I will replace the harddrive that holds /var. Nevertheless, respectfully, I will

Re: Bash Scripting Question

2013-11-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:35:30PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > The script I am trying to write executes a program that requires a > keyboard response. I have experimented with redirecting STDIN but haven't > found the > correct way to make the response. I found one example that scanned t

Re: NVIDIA Problem?

2013-11-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:32:23AM -0500, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: > [3]erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: > > I  am running jessie/sid. > > > > When I boot, prior to the login screen I receive the following > message: "A > > problem has occurred and

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that you'll get any help with your "jump through the

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. Why can't you just upgrade? IOW, unlikely that you

Re: Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years

2013-11-04 Thread ken
On 11/02/2013 02:53 PM Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In May 2008 I purchased new and started using a Lenovo R61 Think Pad. Originally I installed Lenny on it and subsequently upgraded it to Squeeze. Starting from 2013-01-01 various things started going wrong.

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread shawn wilson
Raco already basically said what the issue is. I didn't notice it in the prior messages you posted. If you wanted to confirm, after you migrate your data, do a: dd if=/dev/zero of= and then looking at something like: iostat -xtc 5 /dev/ And, if you don't see an error there, do dd if=<(tr '\000' '\

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread ken
On 11/03/2013 08:57 AM Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? Our local public library bought a couple of these. They give classes on them. And if you want something printed, you email

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-04 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 11/02/2013 05:22 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: On Saturday, November 02, 2013 06:55:39 AM Alex Mestiashvili wrote: I use xfce4 4.10, but in this case I think it has nothing to do with the problem. The problem is that the device is not detected by the kernel . it is not visible in the dmesg output a

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > Will this command sequence generally work when the "from" box has > Squeeze and the "to" box has Wheezy? Specifically, will the packages > installed in the Wheezy box having the same names as the ones in the > Squeeze box be the Wheezy v

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:21:58AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:59:37 -0200 > Beco wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > This is an open thread, if that is allowed. > > What's an open thread? At a guess, opposite to a "closed thread" IOW anyone can contribute, although the terms don't

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want ^ > > to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with > > Squeeze. > > W

Re: Choosing default OS in multi boot system

2013-11-04 Thread Kruppt
On 2013-10-30, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I've wondered about this or something similar. Has anyone tried having > each OS install their grub to their partition, rather than the MBR ??? and > then having a separate grub configuration that installs onto the MBR > which lets you chain-load each of th

What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm having problems with two specific man pages at the moment - gunzip and dpkg-scanpackages. When using gunzip I got an unexpected result. The result of "gunzip myfile.gz" was a single file named "myfile". What I expected/desired was to have two files on the disk - "myfile.gz" and "myfile".

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Jochen Spieker
Richard Owlett: > > When using gunzip I got an unexpected result. The result of "gunzip > myfile.gz" was a single file named "myfile". What I expected/desired > was to have two files on the disk - "myfile.gz" and "myfile". There > was only one - "myfile". Reading the man page seemed to indicate >

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > >>In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > >>install all the packages which I presently have in

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to in

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 21:23:01 + > Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Reco wrote: >> I don't trust this guy. He's generally very abrasive and very >> aggressive. He joined or started a debian-devel thread on init systems >> and tried

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131104_105718, Itay wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: > > >On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 17:16:02 +0200 (IST) > >Itay wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 3 Nov 2013, Reco wrote: > > >[...] Is there anything suspicious in the root mailbox? > > root mail box has daily messages like this starting at june 2010

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 21:08:29 + > Tom H wrote: > >> Misrepresenting what systemd is and the reasons for its existence >> doesn't make sense: >> >> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html >> >> OS X and Solaris switched to launchd and smf resp

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:58:45 +0100 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> >> _ sysvinit scripts are scripts. Scripts needs programming skills, and >> the sh language does not have an easy to read syntax. I would in fact >> call it rathe

Re: [OT] What is an open thread (was Re: 3D printer)

2013-11-04 Thread Beco
> Chris Bannister via lists.debian.org > 11:18 (1 hour ago) > to debian-user > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 09:21:58AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 03:59:37 -0200 > > Beco wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > This is an open thread, if that is allowed. > > > > What's an o

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:55:44 -0400 > John wrote: >> Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over >> init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? > > Decisions like changing such an essential part

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > Did you change UEFI mode from "Secure" to "Legacy"? Why not disable Secure Boot and keep UEFI? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:23:02AM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: >> >> I find shell scripts the most efficient way to automate system adin >> tasks. It could be because I am a programmer, but at least init >> scripts are already provided,

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Beco
On 4 November 2013 10:24, ken wrote: > On 11/03/2013 08:57 AM Mirco Piccin wrote: >> >> Hi >> >>> I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have >>> experience in using such printers with debian/linux? > > > Our local public library bought a couple of these. They give classes

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 11/03/2013 10:41 AM, Reco wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:21:40 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:06:06AM +0400, Reco wrote: Linux is way ahead of AIX, FreeBSD and HP-UX in this regard even if using good ol' sysvinit. So, Lennart fixed what wasn't broken in the first pl

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi > The problem is that we know all the history of struggle between linux > and printers (and devices in general). I was wondering if this is the > case with 3D printers. it's not the case! > I think I like most the Prusa i3. It looks pretty! And being the third > version, the site states: "he

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 11/04/2013 04:06 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 03.11.2013 10:23, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:58:45 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: _ sysvinit scripts are scripts. Scripts needs programming skills, and the sh language does not have an easy to

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 11/04/2013 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:23:02AM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: I find shell scripts the most efficient way to automate system adin tasks. It could be because I am a programmer, but at least init sc

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:43:36 + Tom H wrote: > smf uses manifests to manage the ksh scripts, which are far more > simple that the pre-smf rc scripts; often just a "case,start/stop/..." > mini-script. Solaris 11.1, more or less default non-X install. There're 17 scripts exceeding 10k in /lib/sv

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Owlett
Jochen Spieker wrote: Richard Owlett: When using gunzip I got an unexpected result. The result of "gunzip myfile.gz" was a single file named "myfile". What I expected/desired was to have two files on the disk - "myfile.gz" and "myfile". There was only one - "myfile". Reading the man page seemed

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread ken
On 11/04/2013 11:31 AM Beco wrote: On 4 November 2013 10:24, ken wrote: On 11/03/2013 08:57 AM Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? Our local public library bought a couple of these

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:21:40 + > Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:06:06AM +0400, Reco wrote: > I don't know why people adopting it. I only have an option about why > distributions adapting systemd. IMO: > > Fedora - because R

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm having problems with two specific man pages at the moment - gunzip and > dpkg-scanpackages. > > When using gunzip I got an unexpected result. The result of "gunzip > myfile.gz" was a single file named "myfile". What I expected/desired w

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-04, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> gunzip -c myfile.gz > myfile > > It's been too long since I used CP/M-80. Piping and > redirection was routine. Seems like he got it bassakwards to me: gunzip -c myfile > myfile.gz It's in the ADVANCED USAGE section of the man page. cat file1 file2

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote: > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Marko Randjelovic >> wrote: >>> >>> Did you change UEFI mode from "Secure" to "Legacy"? >> >> Why not disable Secure Boot and keep UEFI? > > Because many com

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Jochen Spieker
Curt: > On 2013-11-04, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >>> gunzip -c myfile.gz > myfile >> >> It's been too long since I used CP/M-80. Piping and >> redirection was routine. > > Seems like he got it bassakwards to me: > > gunzip -c myfile > myfile.gz I think /you/ got it backwards. :) It's gunzip

Re: mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:57 AM, François Patte wrote: > Le 04/11/2013 11:28, Holger Stein a écrit : >> Am 04.11.2013 09:28, schrieb François Patte: >>> >>> I have these messages from mdadm: >>> >>> mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory >>> /dev/md/4 : >>> mdadm: cannot open /d

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS wil

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 11:51 AM, ken wrote: On 11/04/2013 11:31 AM Beco wrote: On 4 November 2013 10:24, ken wrote: On 11/03/2013 08:57 AM Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? Our local publ

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-04, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > I think /you/ got it backwards. :) It's gunzip, not gzip. Oops. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl7foo0.3

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 04/11/13 18:05, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/4/2013 10:05 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 04/11/13 14:50, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400,

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: > On 11/03/2013 10:41 AM, Reco wrote: >> On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:21:40 + >> Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:06:06AM +0400, Reco wrote: > Well, there are some nice features in systemd. It's easier to work with unit > f

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: > On 11/04/2013 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:23:02AM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: I find shell scripts the most efficient way to automate system ad

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Conrad Nelson
On 11/04/2013 12:22 PM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Conrad Nelson wrote: On 11/03/2013 10:41 AM, Reco wrote: On Sun, 3 Nov 2013 14:21:40 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:06:06AM +0400, Reco wrote: Well, there are some nice features in systemd. It's

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to > install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. > > In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Refer

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20131102_142017, Ken Heard wrote: >> >> You can make a local copy of the package and debconf selection states >> by the following. >> >> # dpkg --get-selections '*' > selection.dpkg >> # debconf-get-selections> selection.debconf > > I d

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-04, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > I'm waiting for a 3D printer that builds itself :) > A self-replicating 3D printer? That's in the cards, isn't it? Or maybe it isn't. The economic model may be faulty; I dunno. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:20:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 November 2013 12:19:45 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > > > In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want > ^ > > > to install all the

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-04 Thread Joe
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:55:10 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > > To borrow from the hardware world, man pages would correspond to > Product Specification. What I'm looking for would correspond more > with an Application Note. > I think the magic word you want is 'tutorial'. You probably also wan

Re: Choosing default OS in multi boot system

2013-11-04 Thread John W. Foster
On Mon, 2013-11-04 at 14:04 +, Kruppt wrote: > On 2013-10-30, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I've wondered about this or something similar. Has anyone tried having > > each OS install their grub to their partition, rather than the MBR ??? and > > then having a separate grub configuration that in

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/4/2013 9:50 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:56:27AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/4/2013 7:19 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 02:20:17PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote: In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all t

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, November 04, 2013 01:20:01 PM Tony van der Hoff wrote: > No, it didn't work for me. I would have much preferred to automate this. > However, AFAICT the tools aren't available, and the time comes where you > feel you're beating your head against a wall. That's when I gave up. > > I'm not

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:37:51 -0600 Conrad Nelson wrote: > Well, there are some nice features in systemd. It's easier to work with > unit files over shell scripts. It's nice to write out how you want the > system to manage services in a declarative style over an imperative one. > Also, teh depe

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:21:48 + Tom H wrote: > RHEL 6 (as well as Fedora 9-14) use upstart's "/sbin/init" and a few > upstart jobs. AFAIR, there are native jobs for setting up the ttys, > launching plymouth, and parsing "/proc/cmdline" in order to run > "telinit " and that's about it. sysvinit

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-04 Thread Reco
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:06:50 + Tom H wrote: > > Well, whoever he is, he raises some valid questions. Such as - what > > logind are supposed to do? Why bother keeping unrelated projects in > > systemd git? > > He's a Gentoo developer who might be involved in OpenRC development > (he's not its

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread Thomas H. George
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 07:09:02PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-11-04, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > > I'm waiting for a 3D printer that builds itself :) > > > > A self-replicating 3D printer? > > That's in the cards, isn't it? > > Or maybe it isn't. The economic model may be faulty; I dunno. >

Re: mdadm messages

2013-11-04 Thread François Patte
Le 04/11/2013 19:01, Tom H a écrit : > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:57 AM, François Patte > wrote: >> Le 04/11/2013 11:28, Holger Stein a écrit : >>> Am 04.11.2013 09:28, schrieb François Patte: I have these messages from mdadm: mdadm: cannot open /dev/md/4: No such file or directory >

Re: 3D printer

2013-11-04 Thread John Hasler
Curt wrote: > A self-replicating 3D printer? > That's in the cards, isn't it? > Or maybe it isn't. The economic model may be faulty; I dunno. That is the goal of the movement. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.o

No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Tazman Deville
Just since yesterday, I'm seeing this PHP error on the scuttle installation on a little server here I have. Scuttle is installed from the debian repos. The server is running Squeeze still (I know.. I should upgrade it, but I'll spend a day ironing out dovecot and postfix when I do, so haven't gotte

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tazman Deville wrote: > Just since yesterday, I'm seeing this PHP error meaning the "No space left on device (28)" you mention in the subject, I suppose. > on the scuttle installation on a little server here > I have. > Scuttle is installed from the debian repos.

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Hecber Cordova
Hi, Did you check inodes usage? (df -i) I could be inodes availability rather than block availability. Best regards, HC On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Tazman Deville wrote: > Just since yesterday, I'm seeing this PHP error > on the scuttle installation on a little server here > I have. > S

free-software phone: neo900

2013-11-04 Thread green
Something that might be of interest to Debian users: the neo900, at , is intended to be a successor of the Nokia N900, with significantly improved specifications and features, as well as full free software support (excluding PowerVR 3D acceleration). It is even (as of this writi

Re: free-software phone: neo900

2013-11-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, green wrote: > Something that might be of interest to Debian users: the neo900, at > , is intended to be a successor of the Nokia N900, > with significantly improved specifications and features, as well as > full free software support (excluding

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Tazman Deville
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 08:34:37AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Tazman Deville wrote: > > Just since yesterday, I'm seeing this PHP error > > meaning the "No space left on device (28)" you mention in the subject, > I suppose. > > > on the scuttle installation on a li

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Tazman Deville
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 06:43:45PM -0500, Hecber Cordova wrote: >Hi, > >Did you check inodes usage? (df -i) > >I could be inodes availability rather than block availability. AHA! I have no idea what the significance of this is, but df -i gives $ df -i FilesystemInodes

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Hecber Cordova
Hi, inodes are basically metadata (http://www.linfo.org/inode.html). It looks like you have a lot of files in the root directory (most probably small files), and your system has used all available inodes. You cannot add more inodes without re-creating the file system (mkfs), this is because the in

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/4/2013 8:30 PM, Tazman Deville wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 06:43:45PM -0500, Hecber Cordova wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Did you check inodes usage? (df -i) >> >>I could be inodes availability rather than block availability. > > > AHA! > > I have no idea what the significance of this

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Tazman Deville
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 09:51:26PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 11/4/2013 8:30 PM, Tazman Deville wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 06:43:45PM -0500, Hecber Cordova wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>Did you check inodes usage? (df -i) > >> > >>I could be inodes availability rather than block

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Tazman Deville
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 05:14:34AM +0100, Tazman Deville wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 09:51:26PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > On 11/4/2013 8:30 PM, Tazman Deville wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 06:43:45PM -0500, Hecber Cordova wrote: > > >>Hi, > > >> > > >>Did you check inodes

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 05/11/13 16:51, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Second, you have a serious problem here because it is your root > filesystem that has run out of inodes. You need to ask yourself why you > have 1.7M files in your rootfs. That's very dumb. Or perhaps "That's not generally advisable." or similar. Richar

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:03:58PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > So what I'm going to do is build a new server, install the same > software that's on the current one, then reply the modifications to > the configuration files. Once it is thoroughly tested, I will > replace the old one with the new

Re: No space left on device (28) but device is NOT full!

2013-11-04 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, November 05, 2013 02:21:36 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/11/13 16:51, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Second, you have a serious problem here because it is your root > > filesystem that has run out of inodes. You need to ask yourself why you > > have 1.7M files in your rootfs. That's very