Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card

2013-10-28 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: [...] > However: > >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Alternatively, boot with >> nouveau.noaccel=1 to disable acceleration > > Seems to be golden... It does seem to stop the goofy login at console > screen. And since my uasge on linux is never heavily graphics oriented > I see

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/26/2013 1:12 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Zenaan Harkness >> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/26/13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> [...] "Machine" is a bad term because it is not "Machine Oriented Progra

Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

2013-10-28 Thread Philipp Born
Hi, we're looking for something a bit WSUS-like for Debian (and Ubuntu) to roll out updates etc on our Debian- and Ubuntu-based infrastructure. We've already tried Landscape (the licensing fees are not economically for us) and Spacewalk (which would be perfect, if it would correctly recognize

local repo

2013-10-28 Thread andrey . rybak
Hi everybody. I want to make local repositary on computer without internet connection. Coze im bored with insertion of dvd to this computer. Will you give me good recipe how to do that from CD or DVD set? Thanks in advance. Andrey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + > Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: >>> >>> Yes, but pfexec is not sudo. And privilege-aware Solaris shells are >>> definitely not sudo too. >> >> It might not be sudo but it's the same p

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:28:51PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Reco writes: > > True, you need to add to the picture that curious user who just read on > > Bugtraq or Full Disclosure about fresh vulnerability in sudo. Or that > > disgruntled user who needs /etc/system changed right here and now.

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:37:02AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + > > Tom H wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes, but pfexec is not sudo. And privilege-aware Solaris shells are > >>> de

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/28/2013 03:47 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:28:51PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: [snip] >> You also have to add to the picture such a vulnerability, and I haven't >> noticed any. > > If we're speaking of public vulnerabilities: > > CVE-2010-0427. > CVE-2013-1775 (allows bypass

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 08:15:43PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Oh. You mean that HP suddenly transformed to good fairies and stopped > > charging extra for aCC? Or IBM received an encrypted signal from their > > supervisors from Mars and did the same to vacc? And don't even mention >

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:56:32PM +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 10/28/2013 03:47 PM, Reco wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:28:51PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > [snip] > >> You also have to add to the picture such a vulnerability, and I haven't > >> noticed any. > > > > If we're speaking of

Installation of Debian under MAC OS X Lion and Parallels Desktop 7

2013-10-28 Thread Holger . Lech
Hello everyone, i have a little problem with the installation of a Debian package ( ixsoft ) from 8 DVD´s under Parallels Desktop on a MacBookPro. After starting a new virtual machine installation under Parallels it asks for a CD/DVD. But the inserted DVD can not be read ! When i start an alrea

Re: Installation of Debian under MAC OS X Lion and Parallels Desktop 7

2013-10-28 Thread Kent West
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM, wrote: > Hello everyone, > > i have a little problem with the installation of a Debian package ( ixsoft > ) from 8 DVD´s under Parallels Desktop > on a MacBookPro. After starting a new virtual machine installation under > Parallels it asks for a CD/DVD. > But the i

Re: Is my unattended upgrades working?

2013-10-28 Thread Florian Lindner
Am Montag, 28. Oktober 2013, 07:08:08 schrieb Carlo: > Hi, check if your method is similar as this tutorial. > http://www.oneopensource.it/10/08/2011/ubuntu-debian-installare-in-automatic > o-aggiornamenti-di-sicurezza/ > > Tell abour your next progress. Well I don't speak Italian... ;-) But as f

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Reco writes: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:28:51PM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> Reco writes: >> > True, you need to add to the picture that curious user who just read on >> > Bugtraq or Full Disclosure about fresh vulnerability in sudo. Or that >> > disgruntled user who needs /etc/system changed

Debian setup for python django development

2013-10-28 Thread Gary Roach
Hi all, I have been trying to set up a python, django, mysql development project and am really confused. All of the documentation seems to ignore the apt-get installation methods used by ebian and its derivatives. Does pip install the same as Aptitude ( I don't think so). If I use virtualenvwr

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:37:02AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Reco wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:50:23 + >>> Tom H wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Reco wrote: > > Yes, but pfexec is not sudo

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > And one must be careful of throwing stones. For example Debian does > > not provide a firewall by default. And it is debatable if it needs > > one. Many people don't configure one. Many people do. It all > > depends upon many things about the use case. I do

Re: Is my unattended upgrades working?

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Lindner wrote: > > Florian Lindner wrote: > > > root@astarte ~ # ll /etc/cron.daily > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14985 Jun 4 11:33 apt.dpkg-dist* > > The thing what puzzles me most is that if the apt.dpkg-dist script > is called manually it logs just fine and everything. But the cron > job

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:45:03AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > And one must be careful of throwing stones. For example Debian does > > > not provide a firewall by default. And it is debatable if it needs > > > one. Many people don't configure one. Many peo

Re: local repo

2013-10-28 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:32:27 +0200 andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr wrote: > Hi everybody. > I want to make local repositary on computer without internet connection. > Coze im bored with insertion of dvd to this computer. Will you give me > good recipe how to do that from CD or DVD set? http://www.uni

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:19:43AM -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Reco writes: > >> You also have to add to the picture such a vulnerability, and I haven't > >> noticed any. > > > > If we're speaking of public vulnerabilities: > > > > CVE-2010-0427. > > Does not permit users outside of those in the

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why > > it would be there? > > Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, > though. Running a diskless client over NFS would be a curious trick > without NFS suppor

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread John Hasler
Bob Proulx writes: > I just tried a minimum installation of Debian Wheezy in a VM and > rpcbind was not installed. Are you sure it is installed by default? Rpcbind is priority standard. It is neither "essential" nor "required". Thus whether it is installed by default or not depends on how you d

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 01:14:33PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why > > > it would be there? > > > > Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, > > though. Runnin

Re: How to ditch nouveau driver with nVidia card

2013-10-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-10-28 11:38 +0100, Harry Putnam wrote: > First, you did mean to put `nouveau.noaccel=1' on the kernel line > right? Yes. > I forgot one aspect of having `nouveau.noaccel=1' on the kernel line. > > It fixes my goofy screen problem but it does cause bootup to go into > maintenance mode. T

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-28 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 22:35 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to know if it is possible to install some firmware in > the 3.2 kernel but from the 2.6 ? > > I need to install some firmwares to make the 3.2 kernel > works on my machine but I can only access the computer > when the 2.6

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-28 Thread Shane Johnson
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:48 PM, André Nunes Batista < andrenbati...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-25 at 22:35 +0700, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to know if it is possible to install some firmware in > > the 3.2 kernel but from the 2.6 ? > > > > I need to install some firm

Re: Debian setup for python django development

2013-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2013 18:12, Gary Roach a écrit : Hi all, I have been trying to set up a python, django, mysql development project and am really confused. All of the documentation seems to ignore the apt-get installation methods used by ebian and its derivatives. Does pip install the same as Aptitude

Latest kernel update fixed crashes?

2013-10-28 Thread Neal Murphy
The latest kernel update seems to have fixed the panics and GPFs I was experiencing. I was experiencing nearly predictable crashes whenever RAM was filled with cached disk blocks. At that point, it seemed that anything that addressed the cache would cause a crash: use a program that needed RAM

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Reco wrote: > And what about the end result ('user will get root privs')? They are different users. A remote user could be anyone. A local user is someone who is already known and has an account on the system and who has an established relationship and trust. Case 1: I find that someone in my f

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
John Hasler wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > I just tried a minimum installation of Debian Wheezy in a VM and > > rpcbind was not installed. Are you sure it is installed by default? > > Rpcbind is priority standard. It is neither "essential" nor > "required". Thus whether it is installed by defa

Help -- GPG error

2013-10-28 Thread wix
I'm getting "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553"doing apt-get/aptitude update for wheezy. I have tried several things that I have found doing Google search

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> Is 'rpcbind' installed by default? I will need to look. I wonder why >>> it would be there? >> >> Part of a NFS client, I guess. Package is not marked as an essential one, >> though. Running a diskless

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-10-28 Thread John Hasler
Bob Proulx writes: > I don't think rpcbind should be priority standard these days. I > wonder if it would be possible to convince people that it should be > demoted to installed only as a dependency instead. Or if it is needed > to learn why it is still needed. Standard consists of packages that

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-28 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:37:28 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: ... > Since you brought it up - who do you think wrote Windows? A bunch of > academics? Or Linux? Or OS/2? Or MacOS? Or Z-OS? Didn't Linus initially create linux while a university student? And I believe that the GNU tools / Free Sof

Problem with halt

2013-10-28 Thread Wawrzek Niewodniczanski
Hello everyone, Recently I moved my home desktop from (x)Ubuntu to Debian Wheezy. The experience is positive, with one exception: shutdown doesn't stop power for my computer. I tried to play with settings in /etc/default/halt - both 'poweroff' and 'halt' have the same effect (or rather I should w

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2013 01:38, ruckus rogue a écrit : On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Slavko wrote: I am sorry, perhaps i forgot to mention, that this is my setting. Or, to be more precise, i have shortcut to run "aptitude -R". Thanks all for the replies so far, but still a bit confused. I've alway

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-10-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Not sure I really want to wade back into this but... Celejar wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:37:28 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: ... Since you brought it up - who do you think wrote Windows? A bunch of academics? Or Linux? Or OS/2? Or MacOS? Or Z-OS? Didn't Linus initially create linux whil

portmapper / rpcbind installed by default (was: sudo and UNIXes)

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
John Hasler wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > I don't think rpcbind should be priority standard these days. I > > wonder if it would be possible to convince people that it should be > > demoted to installed only as a dependency instead. Or if it is needed > > to learn why it is still needed. > > S

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > The "standard" task installs both nfs-common and rpcbind. Aha! Apparently the ability to nfs mount in /etc/fstab is the root cause of the dependency chain that requires nfs-common and therefore portmapper. At a guess. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: portmapper / rpcbind installed by default (was: sudo and UNIXes)

2013-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > Standard consists of packages that you "would be surprised not to find > > on a UNIX system". > > But the portmapper is very closely associated with Sun RPC. If I have > not installed anything in that family then I would not expect to find > the portmapp

Re: portmapper / rpcbind installed by default

2013-10-28 Thread John Hasler
Bob Proulx writes: > And I would be surprised if my list were even close to the same list > as other people. And there is the problem with that statement The statement comes from the last century when UNIX systems were more common than Linux ones and UNIX admins had firm ideas as to what belonged

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-10-28 Thread ruckus rogue
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:21 PM, wrote: > They have been installed because zonecheck probably needs them ( required ) > but if they are recommended by other packages then they will not be removed. > I do not think there is any solution to fix that. If there is one, I would > be happy to learn it.

Re: firmware installation

2013-10-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 02:58:35PM -0600, Shane Johnson wrote: ..snip. > Diogene, > Could you please provide what Andre requested as well as if this is all the > same installation and it's just an upgrade, or if it is two different > installs on two different volumes. If it's

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

2013-10-28 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:38:12PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Reco wrote: > > And what about the end result ('user will get root privs')? > > They are different users. A remote user could be anyone. A local > user is someone who is already known and has an account on the system > and who has an