Re: Debian 6.0.0 squeeze unable to detect RAID Controller and NIC Card on Dell R720 2U Rack Server

2012-10-15 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 13.10.2012 um 13:15 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: On 10/13/2012 5:06 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: I am installing Debian 6.0.0 squeeze with kernel version 2.6.32-5-amd64 on Dell R720 2U server( http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/dell-poweredge-r720-spec-sheet.pdf) , the installer

resolve.conf missing

2012-10-15 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i just installed Debian squeeze 6.0.4 with net install CD. everything went Ok but the problem is i could not find "resolve.conf" file in /etc/. so i have to create the file manually however still i can not use the file because whenever i place my internal DNS like "nameserver 10.X.X.8" and try to p

Re: resolve.conf missing

2012-10-15 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Sorry! my mistake i created a file with wrong file name the correct spelling is resolv.conf i mistakenly add the "e". On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i just installed Debian squeeze 6.0.4 with net install CD. everything > went Ok but the problem is i could not f

Re: resolve.conf missing

2012-10-15 Thread Morning Star
it seems you haven't installed the 'resolvconf'. you need to install it first by using root privileges or using 'sudo' . # apt-get install resolvconf Greetings, Marco On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i just installed Debian squeeze 6.0.4 with net install CD. every

Re: mount cdrom?

2012-10-15 Thread Hadi Motamedi
From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: FW: mount cdrom? Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:58:38 + From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: lisi.re...@gmail.com Subject: RE: mount cdrom? Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:08:36 + > From: lisi.re...@gmail.com > To: mot

Re: mount cdrom?

2012-10-15 Thread Hadi Motamedi
From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: FW: mount cdrom? Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:58:59 + From: motamed...@hotmail.com To: lisi.re...@gmail.com Subject: RE: mount cdrom? Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 06:15:27 + > From: lisi.re...@gmail.com > To: mot

Re: resolve.conf missing

2012-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 15 oct 12, 15:00:29, Morning Star wrote: > it seems you haven't installed the 'resolvconf'. you need to install > it first by using root privileges or using 'sudo' . > > # apt-get install resolvconf The resolvconf package is very useful when you have several programs changing resolv.conf,

RE: mount cdrom?

2012-10-15 Thread Hadi Motamedi
> From: lisi.re...@gmail.com > To: motamed...@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: mount cdrom? > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:04:52 +0100 > > > > On Saturday 13 October 2012 12:41:30 you wrote: > > > From: lisi.re...@gmail.com > > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > Subject: Re: mount cdrom? > > > D

Re: Recurring email messages in IceDove and I'm feeling deja vu

2012-10-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > I am using Icedove, AKA Thunderbird, with an IMAP server. After > deleting (or marking for deletion), the messages will reappear in > the Inbox, or if in the Inbox and marked, they will become unmarked. > This happens whether I do it m

Re: Debian 6.0.0 squeeze unable to detect RAID Controller and NIC Card on Dell R720 2U Rack Server

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 09:44 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > That's not 100% reliable. !!! Very important. Especially grey and white lists for Linux compatible hardware only provide coarse information. !!! More safe are blacklists. I owned and still own white listed gear that doesn't work. S

Re: Debian 6.0.0 squeeze unable to detect RAID Controller and NIC Card on Dell R720 2U Rack Server

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: And full ACK that sometimes hardware is supported by outdated drivers, e.g. some ATI drivers need outdated versions of X. New ATI drivers won't support old cards anymore. And "OLD" is very relative. So you can use those cards for all tasks, you "SIMPLY" need to maintain your Linux working with

weirdness mounting phone

2012-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, Can anyone shed any light on this behaviour when plugging in my Galaxy Y into my wheezy laptop ---8-< - root@tal:~# [1132299.352535] cdc_acm 1-1:1.1: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem. root@tal:~# mount /dev

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Sunday 14 October 2012 11:06:31 am Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have a HD on my system, sdc1 which has root root ownership. I created > a directory, Apps, to which I gave computation computation ownership > (user). I can create a file in the Apps directory without any problems > as the user. >

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 October 2012 13:46:03 Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Sunday 14 October 2012 11:06:31 am Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I have a HD on my system, sdc1 which has root root ownership. I created > > a directory, Apps, to which I gave computation computation ownership > > (user). I can create a f

Re: Recurring email messages in IceDove and I'm feeling deja vu

2012-10-15 Thread Jon Dowland
Try rebuilding/repairing your INBOX and/or other effected folders. Right-click on the folder in the left-hand pane, select 'Properties' and then "Repair Folder". This can happen when Thunderbird's cache gets out-of-sync from the server and it cannot figure out how to get back in sync on it's own.

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > Can you get a Debian package for ecce? > > According to the Debian package list, the answer is no. (I searched on all > versions.) Perhaps wiki.debian.org/Alien could help. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 14:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: > > > Can you get a Debian package for ecce? > > > > According to the Debian package list, the answer is no. (I searched on all > > versions.) > > Perhaps wiki.debian.org/Alien could help. >

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread John Hasler
Mark Neidorff wrote: > You are trying to install a RedHat Enterprise Linux package on > Debian. This can be a problem if the user numbers that Debian and > Redhat either conflict or if RedHat makes different assumptions about > user numbers than Debian does. Can you get a Debian package for ecce?

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread hvw59601
Mark Neidorff wrote: On Sunday 14 October 2012 11:06:31 am Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have a HD on my system, sdc1 which has root root ownership. I created a directory, Apps, to which I gave computation computation ownership (user). I can create a file in the Apps directory without any problems

No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
I am having problems which I think may relate to an actually dying disk, but I am not sure. Sometimes I have thought it is because of a dying disk and then we have realized it wasn't. ~ I basically installed java and recursively copied the files to another directory. 'which' and 'ls' are telling

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Jon Dowland
The error "no such file or directory" could be a red-herring in some cases. What is the filesystem and mount options for the drive upon which you've put Java? (output of "mount", please) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 04:24:25PM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am having problems which I think may relate to an actually dying > disk, but I am not sure. Sometimes I have thought it is because of a > dying disk and then we have realized it wasn't. > ~ > I basically installed java and

Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. I can have limited access to "high" speed access by carrying one of my laptops to the local library. I don't find downloading more than a live-CD feas

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. > > Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet > connection. I don't believe they were chided, simply reminded that the best way to get packages

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Karen Lewellen
I must agree. There can be many barriers to installing or upgrading from on line sources. I will solve *my* own situation later by using the DVD images I have even if slightly behind. I want stable squeeze anyway. Karen On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Richard Owlett wrote: Recently someone was chided f

Re: Permissions Problem

2012-10-15 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 10/15/2012 09:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 08:46 -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote: user numbers I suspect the term should be "user IDs". If I list my Debian from Arch Linux, it does look like that: [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ id uid=1000(spinymouse) gid=100(users) groups=100(us

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. I don't believe they were chided, simply reminded that the best way

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:41:16 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Hello Richard, >Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from >a CD. That's putting it strong; I asked why they wanted to use the CD/DVD method rather than online repos out of curiosity. The answer came back - lack of co

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/15/2012 10:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. > > Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. > > I can have limited access to "high" speed access by carrying one of my > laptops to the local librar

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-10-15 17:38 +0200, Jon Dowland wrote: > The error "no such file or directory" could be a red-herring in some cases. According to the execve(2) manpage, it means The file filename or a script or ELF interpreter does not exist, or a shared library needed for file or interpreter can

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Raphael Cauderlier
Albretch Mueller writes: > I am having problems which I think may relate to an actually dying > disk, but I am not sure. Sometimes I have thought it is because of a > dying disk and then we have realized it wasn't. > ~ > I basically installed java and recursively copied the files to > another d

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread John Hasler
Stan Hoeppner writes: > You must be using a totally free dialup service for daily internet > access. In many/most US locales dial is as expensive, if not more > expensive, than aDSL or cable... In many it is much cheaper (here, for example). In some broadband is not available at all. -- John Ha

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Richard Owlett
Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/15/2012 10:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Recently someone was chided for attempting installation from a CD. Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. I can have limited access to "high" speed access by carrying one of my laptops to the

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, Your support is very much appreciated. I've read all postings and had trouble keeping up with replying to all my questions that have been so very supportive. I would like to take pause for a moment and kindly update you all on my situation. I did in

Re: No such file or directory ...

2012-10-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
Well, in case someone runs against similar weird problems. ~ As Raphaël hinted, their root seems to relate to my starting Linux/Debian/knoppix as: ~ knoppix64 ... ~ which I think it is what I should do right? ~ $ uname -a Linux Microknoppix 3.3.7 #38 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 06:21:01 CEST 2012 i6

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:40:40 AM Wally Lepore wrote: >> Hi Debain Users, >> >> I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' >> on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive >> (/dev/sda) a

Creative /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2012-10-15 Thread Charles Kroeger
For those of you running nouveau as your video driver with the gnome desktop you wont know about the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but for all us others there is considerable latitude for creativity in this file and its results on one's X11 desktop. Take for instance Mark Allums in a letter of the 1st O

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:40:40 -0400 > Wally Lepore wrote: > >> >> If I choose NO to the installer's question as to placing GRUB in the >> MBR of the 1st drive. What are my choices as to where to install it? I >> don't want to answer "NO" to the questio

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 12:15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > >> I only have one shot to get this right or else I have to scrub the >> install and start over. > > Please, no! No more installing from you. We are exhausted. :) I know but its frustratin

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:50:02 +0200 Richard Owlett wrote: > Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed > internet connection. Back in the day I used to download a version of Debian over a 56K modem (that rarely achieved those speeds) I used to set it to downloading around midnight and

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 18:49:14 -0400 > Wally Lepore wrote: > >> >> I can still boot either OS (win2k or Debian) simply by changing the >> boot order in BIOS. Not a big deal. Sure beats swapping drives in and >> out of the computer. :) >> > Editing Win 2

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
>On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Lisi wrote: >> On Sunday 14 October 2012 00:41:46 Wally Lepore wrote: >> >> Now I can finally join the ranks of Debian users and ask operational >> questions, help others and start the real uphill climb in learning all >> aspects of linux. A lot more reading and s

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Sat 13 Oct 2012 at 18:49:14 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> >> Debian Squeeze installed successfully ! >> >> The dual-boot did not work but I can boot into either Win2k or Debian >> simply by changing the boot order in the BIOS (hdd-0 or hdd-1).

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: > > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to > identify other OSes on your system. I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else fails. Thanks Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: Creative /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 12:41 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote: > Section "Files" redundant > Section "InputDevice" redundant > HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 > VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Unlikely that this frequencies would be that high, that they literally could blow up expensive monitor tr

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: > Wally Lepore writes: > >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) >> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume >> Manager (LVM) non-encryption method. > > Do you really need LVM? I have partiti

Re: Creative /etc/X11/xorg.conf

2012-10-15 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:41:53 -0500 Charles Kroeger napísal: > By restoring my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to the fore, all was > harmonious again. I did not post my own /etc/X11/xorg.conf file > because of its humble appearance compared to this one created by > nvidia-xconfig. By my knowle

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. > > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but > >> 1 | su root >> 2 | gedit > > isn't ok. > > You can, but you don't need to add "root", but if you'll launch GUI > stuff like Gedit,

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 14 October 2012 16:20:48 Wally Lepore wrote: >> The link starts off by suggesting I log in as user and then enter the >> following initial command. >> >> 1 | su root >> 2 | gedit >> >> I went to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal (I a

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Go Linux wrote: > --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> From: Ralf Mardorf >> Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives >> To: "debian-user" >> Date: Sunday, October 14, 2012, 3:24 PM > >> >> alternatively you can run one command >> >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 21:36 +0100, Lisi wrote: >> su >> is enough. > > No, it should be > > su - > >> alt-F2 >> gksu gedit > > That's good > > gksu app > > my recommendation > > su -c app > > isn't good. Ok, I will apply when I log into 'root

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-14 at 13:39 -0700, Go Linux wrote: >> --- On Sun, 10/14/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> > From: Ralf Mardorf >> > Subject: Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives >> > To: "debian-user" >> > Date: Sunday, October 1

OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to switch to Linux. You should take a look at "shell globbing" and take a look at some beginners guide for "shell scrip

Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I won't confuse you Wally, or spread FUD, using the default GRUB seems to be the best way for a beginner, because it's the default boot loader for most distros. Personally I prefer GRUB legacy, the outdated, completely different predecessor of the current GRUB. IMO it's much easier to use. Many ex

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] > > Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to > switch to Linux. You should take a look at "shell glob

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I won't confuse you Wally, or spread FUD, using the default GRUB seems > to be the best way for a beginner, because it's the default boot loader > for most distros. > > Personally I prefer GRUB legacy, the outdated, completely different > pred

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: > > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to > > identify other OSes on your system. > > I haven't installed any pkgs. yet. But will consider that if all else > fai

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: > > Wally Lepore writes: > > > >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) > >> for partitioning, I used the 'Manual' setup and chose Logical Volume > >> Manager (LVM)

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Lisi
On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. > > > > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but > > > >> 1 | su root > >> 2 | gedit > > > > isn't ok. > > > > You

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Ok Ralf, I will try your suggestions. As soon as I figure how to > configure my system to log-in as root? Don't configure your WM/DE to allow you to log in as root. You don't need this. You only need to be root in a terminal sometimes. I ma

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/15/2012 10:25 PM, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 13:51 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >>> Hi Lisi, Brian, Lee, Joe, Neal, Dom, and Ralf, [snip] >> >> Since you've got knowledge about computers, it will be easy for you to >> s

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:32 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Sounds good but how do I log into root? Open a terminal emulation, use the menu to do it, you already found out how to do this. It will look similar to this: [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ Then type su - and push enter [spinymouse@archlinux ~

Re: OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 16:25 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Are you saying that all these commands are used > strictly in "Terminal"? For the moment my answer is YES to avoid confusion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 15 October 2012 20:11:06 Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Dom wrote: >> > You might need to install the os-prober package first. Grub2 uses that to >> > identify other OSes on your system. >> >> I haven't installed an

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a terminal emulation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 15:22 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:12 AM, lee wrote: >> > Wally Lepore writes: >> > >> >> I just realized something important. When I set my Debian drive (sdb) >> >> for partitioning, I used t

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > terminal emulation. > Yes, I will search youtube. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 21:57 +0100, Lisi wrote: > My husband says, why do I spend my time telling you again. My answer > was that I get a lot of help myself. But his inferred suggestion is, > I'm afraid, right. I can't keep telling you the same thing over > again. A video might be the best help.

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > > PS It would really be much easier if you just replied to the list, rather than > to the list and to all of us separately. It makes replying easier. It is > also what the Debian list askes for in its code of practice. Ok got it. I understand. Than

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > > terminal emulation. > > > >

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > On Monday 15 October 2012 20:25:54 Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> >> wrote: >> > Don't run a X session as root, this is a security risk. >> > >> > Yes, using a terminal emulation is correct, but >> > >> >>

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, October 15, 2012 05:19:29 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to > learn faste, resp. it might better explain how to e.g. become root in a > terminal emulation. Or, perhaps, a simple list of ways to become root without any clutt

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
We did confuse you with some explanations and I won't continue it. Can you open a terminal emulation? If so, let's continue step by step. Once you're familiar with Linux, you can allow a user to execute something in a safe way, that normally only can be executed by root. I suspect that a defaul

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:52 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > Also I was just trying to respond to everyone's reply. You don't need to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 17:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >> > Assumed that you are not blind, perhaps a YouTube video will help you to >> > learn faste, resp. it might better explain ho

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
@Neal (really at Neal, not at Wally): We already confused Wally. Let's avoid sudo, since sudo can be set up in various ways and IIRC a default Debian comes without sudo. At the moment it's only important to explain that we don't login as root by a display manager, in the OP's case it for sure is G

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1350339825.2252.109.camel@localhost.localdomain

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 14:59:21 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > My system won't let me log in as root. It will - you are just not talking to it nicely. And not acting on the good advice given already. Lisi has the advice to use CTRL-ALT-F1. This will take you to a virtual terminal. Type "root" at th

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > Hi Ralf, Yes but only the most basic. As I started on this whole linux adventure I dusted off my DOS 6.0 / 6.2 books that have been sitting on my book shelf since the mid 1990's. I ha

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Oct 2012 at 17:17:42 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > > No, Wally. Not "if all else fails". As I understand it, you actually need > > this package to do what you want to do. So grit your teeth and do it. As I > > said, I am no expert on

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Wally Lepore
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > > PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? I have no idea what QL, or a C64 is prior to googling. Is this QL ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_QL http://www.r

Dymo 450 ejects label on login

2012-10-15 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
The issue is as above: new machine running xfce4 desktop, with two printers attached. One of them is an Epson Workforce 645, the other is a Dymo 450 label printer. The Epson is, of course, the default printer on the system. When I log in to the desktop, the Dymo ejects one blank label. Any tho

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread Stephen J. Mazurek
I used Debian Linux for a number of years. I recently got a new HP computer running Windows 7, which gave me minimal problems, aside from annoyances (Microrsoft is very good at being annoying.) Anyway, I expect to return to Linux very soon (not Debian, but Aptosid, since it's more up to date.) I

doc resources

2012-10-15 Thread james gray
are the files and one directory in /usr/share/doc/aptitude available online. at this time. with the limited resources available. i am not able to print out the material. what would be the online address to read and print this material, information, docs, readme information. thank you.

A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread Paul E Condon
I've been running Debian for many years. During most of those years I have had a SkyScan(tm) 'Atomic Clock' on the wall near my Debian desktop computer. The physical computer has changed over the years, but not my using Debian, or my Atomic Clock. Until a few weeks ago, they always displayed the sa

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Joe Zien
Wally Lepore wrote: On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Joe Zien wrote: Wally Lepore wrote: Hi Debain Users, I'm at the final stages of Installing NOT Ubuntu but Debian 'Squeeze' on my dual-boot system. Windows is installed on the 1st hard drive (/dev/sda) and Debian will be installed on the 2

Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread John Hasler
Paul E Condon writes: > Ideas? Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources" commands. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.o

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 18:58 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > I am familiar with some DOS commands The commands are simmilar, e.g. DOS | LINUX +-- CD | cd MD | mkdir The Linux terminal can help you, when using the Tab-key. Just type a character or some characters and then the Tab-key. [spi

Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories

2012-10-15 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed > internet connection. yep, same here, Dialup... which is a real step down from DSL. > I can have limited access to "high" speed access by carrying > one of my laptops to the local library. I don't find > downloa

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 00:09 +0100, Brian wrote: >ls -l /usr/bin/os-prober > > If you get no output, my first statement is incorrect. So if there's the output "ls: cannot access /usr/bin/os-prober: No such file or directory" your statement is correct? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: Another OT: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 19:17 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > >> Wally, are you familiar with MS DOS or DR DOS commands? > > > > PS: Or have you ever used a QL, C64 or similar computer? > > I have no idea what QL, or a C64 is prior to googli

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 22:41 -0400, Joe Zien wrote: > debian squeeze does not use grub legacy. > I would suggest you try mepis 11 and install grub legacy in the MBR. > It would automatically create menu.lst in /boot/grub and add all > operating systems > in menu.lst. It's no big deal to use anoth

Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > Ideas? > > Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources" > commands. > -- > John Hasler Now I am running NTP. Is there something I could post from NTP that would be useful? The switch will take some time, and I'

Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread Doug
On 10/15/2012 10:35 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: I've been running Debian for many years. During most of those years I have had a SkyScan(tm) 'Atomic Clock' on the wall near my Debian desktop computer. The physical computer has changed over the years, but not my using Debian, or my Atomic Clock. Unti

Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Paul E Condon writes: > On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: >>> Ideas? >> Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources" >> commands. > Now I am running NTP. Is there something I could post from NTP that > would be useful? $ ntpq

aptitude interface help

2012-10-15 Thread james gray
Question: where in the file system is the individual file for help in the aptitude interface environment. I would like to print it out. when a person types the word aptitude at the command line and the system brings up a interface with a blue colored header and a blue horizontal strip in the m

Re: aptitude interface help

2012-10-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:34:24 AM james gray wrote: > Question: > > where in the file system is the individual file > > for help in the aptitude interface environment. The man pages are typically in /usr/share/man. The man page for aptitude is found in section 8. So, try: zcat /usr/sha

Re: A puzzle with internet time and NIST time

2012-10-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote: > Paul E Condon writes: > > Ideas? > > Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources" > commands. > -- > John Hasler I've now switched to chrony. The offset between 'atomic clock' and Gnome clock display remains greater than 15sec. Its hard

Re: GRUB location on Dual-Boot with TWO hard drives

2012-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 09:36:28PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > Yes, and you don't need to say > su root. > Just > su > is enough. True, but then su on its own won't "source" root's environment, whereas "su -" will source root's environment as though you'd actually logged in as root. Try them both t

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