Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Lisi
On Friday 30 March 2012 07:45:24 Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Lisi wrote: > > On Thursday 29 March 2012 17:21:48 Tom H wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Lisi wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > >> >> I want it fast! > >

Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

2012-03-30 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20120329_011019, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Mi, 28 mar 12, 20:47:45, Camaleón wrote: >> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:55:01 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > > On Mi, 28 mar 12, 17:02:23, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > >> > but the short version wo

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On 29 March 2012 22:59, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: >> >> Xen requires a patched kernel.  It is unstable.  It crashed on >> me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. >> The system which experienced this returned to a standard >> Debia

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Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 mar 12, 22:02:00, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > Why do you think such scratch space should be in /tmp (regardless of > > whether /tmp is on tmpfs, a separate partition or just a directory on > > /)? > > Why? Because the last time I looked which was long ago, using /tmp for > scratch sp

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 mar 12, 13:17:16, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > On 28/03/2012 16:04, Keith McKenzie wrote: > >On 28/03/12 01:37, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > >>> > >>I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of > >>course I still want stability and reliability. >

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Lisi
On Friday 30 March 2012 06:31:53 you wrote: > On 28/03/2012 16:41, Lisi wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 March 2012 01:37:48 you wrote: > >> I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of > >> course I still want stability and reliability. > > > > You can't have both, they are s

Bug in source package nvidia-settings

2012-03-30 Thread Marwan Abd Ellah
Hi there, I want to submit a bug report concerning the nv-control library. I am using this library in my code which is supposed to be integrated within the HWLOC library to query NVIDIA GPUs to search for their corresponding displays attached to them and vice versa. Right now the library is only cr

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 28/03/2012 22:34, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:00:18 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On 27/03/2012 22:14, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:04:57 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am actually looking forward to Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x. As we all k

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 28/03/2012 23:29, Mika Suomalainen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, If someone wants Linux Kernel 3.X to quickly, it seems that it can be found in Debian Backports http://backports-master.debian.org/ . If someone wants to get the new kernel quickly, they probably wan

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 29/03/2012 00:38, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 28 mar 12, 18:29:19, Mika Suomalainen wrote: 2. Add these lines to /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports (or /etc/apt/preferences) : Package: * Pin: release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 500 WARNING TO STEP TWO: This will make all packages from

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 29/03/2012 00:44, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that the hypervisor model (putting an entirely new kernel between Linux and the

Question on concurrency of init scripts

2012-03-30 Thread Prasant J
Hi, I'm using debian squeeze armel port. This is a general question on debian init scripts. I have written my custom script. When concurrency is set to none everything works fine. But for faster boot I want concurrency, so I have set the dependencies properly and updated using insserv. My questi

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 29/03/2012 05:03, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I want it fast! Then use Ubuntu. Lisi I am already using Ubuntu 11.10. -- Yours sincerely, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Singapore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 29/03/2012 13:51, Mika Suomalainen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Why not Sid? Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I want it fast! Then use Ubuntu. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 00:32, francis picabia wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 28 March 2012 06:43, Aaron Toponce wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:35:25AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: For me, it became yesterday's technology when it became apparent that the hypervisor m

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 13:34, wlan wrote: On my job we using KVM+Proxmox, This is pretty. 2012/3/30 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > On 28/03/2012 16:36, Jon Dowland wrote: On 28/03/12 01:32, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I am also in favor of

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 13:59, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: Xen requires a patched kernel. It is unstable. It crashed on me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. The system which experienced this returned to a standard Debian kernel and never

Re: Bug in source package nvidia-settings

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 mar 12, 10:26:56, Marwan Abd Ellah wrote: > Hi there, > I want to submit a bug report concerning the nv-control library. Please use 'reportbug nvidia-settings' (Severity: whishlist). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.de

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 14:59, Lisi wrote: On Friday 30 March 2012 06:31:53 you wrote: On 28/03/2012 16:41, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2012 01:37:48 you wrote: I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of course I still want stability and reliability. You can't have b

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 mar 12, 17:24:55, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: [snipped 38 lines] > May I know what is Proxmox? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proxmox Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic sig

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 16:11, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 30 mar 12, 13:17:16, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On 28/03/2012 16:04, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 28/03/12 01:37, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of course I still want

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
On 30/03/2012 16:35, Lisi wrote: On Friday 30 March 2012 06:31:53 you wrote: On 28/03/2012 16:41, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2012 01:37:48 you wrote: I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of course I still want stability and reliability. You can't have b

Compiling samba (almost) minimally for a NAS

2012-03-30 Thread Rogério Brito
Dear people, I have an ARM NAS that runs Debian, and it is currently serving files via NFS to some machines of mine. Unfortunately, my wife has to professionally use Windows and, as the NAS only has 128MB, I would like to cut back both the number of programs and the memory footprint of them. For

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? Take a look at when RHEL 6 came out (very recently) and how long the gap between RHEL releases is on average (large) and extrapolate (not for years). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:22:09PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Debian 6.0 Squeeze also supports Xen virtualization but you have to > apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64. Thank you yes, I mentioned that myself two messages earlier in this thread: > Besides, the 2.6 series

sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread Alberto Fuentes
Ive seen that the most optimal sharing desktop is freenx but i "aptsearched" (new verb guys! if i can google something i can certanly aptsearch as well :) freenx does not give any result back on repositories. Searching freenx and debian in the internet give guides ranging from 3 to 6 years old.

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 30/03/12 10:15, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On 29/03/2012 05:03, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:00:18 Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I want it fast! Then use Ubuntu. Lisi I am already using Ubuntu 11.10. Why not 12.04. I thought you liked cutting edge -- To UN

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:34:46 +0800, Teo wrote in message <4f725ca6.1030...@gmail.com>: > On 28/03/2012 03:13, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:05, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) > > wrote: > >> Too slow! > > Not at all. > > You should probably follow your email address to Ubuntu

Re: Dual-boot with kFreeBSD and Linux cannot find Linux kernel

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:24:30 +0100, David wrote in message : > Hey all, > > I am trying to set up a dual-boot machine with Debian kFreeBSD (sid) > and Debian Linux (squeeze). The machine has two hard disks, the > first disk has kFreeBSD on it and I want to use this disk to boot > both OSs. Sque

Re: Pinpointing faulty kernel driver?

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:07:15 +0200, Lars wrote in message <20120328090715.ga4...@starfish.lan>: > Hi all > > When upgrading kernel series 3.1.0 to series 3.2.0, suddenly my system > won't boot. It hangs with the message > > Waiting for /dev to be fully populated ..me 2, upgrading from 3.2.0-1-

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:27:34PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > I beg to differ. Xen virtualization offers superior performance. I say one thing, you say another. Neither of us are providing any evidence to the discussion (thus far) apart from my anecdotal evidence, where I get more

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just got interested about virtualization and noticed that this thread is still going on. As far as I can see, most people are currently recommending Xen. Are there any GUIs or WebUIs for Xen or KVM and how do they work? - -- Mika Suomalainen

Re: sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 11:49 +0200, Alberto Fuentes wrote: > Ive seen that the most optimal sharing desktop is freenx but i > "aptsearched" (new verb guys! if i can google something i can certanly > aptsearch as well :) freenx does not give any result back on > repositories. Searching freenx and

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 05:27:14PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: >> >> Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? > > Take a look at when RHEL 6 came out (very recently) and how long the gap > between RHEL releases is on average (lar

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 29 March 2012 22:59, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32 PM, francis picabia wrote: >>> >>> Xen requires a patched kernel.  It is unstable.  It crashed on >>> me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. >>> Th

Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs

2012-03-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Proulx wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: ... since "shutdown" works fine, reboot is the issue I recently had a very similar problem on a new Intel Atom motherboard. An update of the BIOS fixed it. Reboot issues were listed in the changes for that particular model. Perhaps that is also the pro

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread PMA
amen Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 30 mar 12, 13:17:16, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: On 28/03/2012 16:04, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 28/03/12 01:37, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I prize bleeding edge technology above stability and reliability. But of course I still want stability and

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:36:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > I just got interested about virtualization and noticed that this > thread is still going on. > > As far as I can see, most people are currently recommending Xen. The sample size of thread participants is too small to extrapolate

Re: sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:01:30AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > I would strongly suggest looking at X2Go - also NX based. It is a > relatively young progress but has been making significant progress over > the last year - www.x2go.org and wiki.x2go.org. I think you'll be > pleasantly surpr

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Proxmox VE seems to be it's own distribution and I don't understand which should be run first with Ganeti :). On 30.03.2012 15:42, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:36:32PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> I just got interested about vi

Re: apt-listbugs misses #665959 in Sid dist-upgrade

2012-03-30 Thread hvw59601
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2012-03-29 21:38 +0200, hvw59601 wrote: Just did an aptitude full-upgrade on Sid and it upgraded all sorts of stuff, also ncurses-base. That is affected by bug #665959 which messes up all the dpkg dialogs and also mc. Yes, sorry about that. But it gives a fix: copy /

Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 mar 12, 08:31:31, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Any suggestions on: > - very low level configuration items to fiddle with, > - adding even more detailed logging to the very low level code, > - or kicking into single step or debug mode down at the very low level, > - or something else? Just

Re: Dual-boot with kFreeBSD and Linux cannot find Linux kernel

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 mar 12, 09:24:30, David Banks wrote: > > I have successfully installed both distros and wiped grub from the MBR > of the second disk using dd. kFreeBSD boots fine, however I have had > trouble getting a working Grub menu entry for Squeeze. I am using Grub > 1.99-18. Possible workaroun

Re: Compiling samba (almost) minimally for a NAS

2012-03-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 mar 12, 06:34:23, Rogério Brito wrote: > Dear people, > > I have an ARM NAS that runs Debian, and it is currently serving files via > NFS to some machines of mine. > > Unfortunately, my wife has to professionally use Windows and, as the NAS > only has 128MB, I would like to cut back bot

Re: Iceweasel connection reset

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:32:40 +0400, wlan wrote: (please, don't top-post and keep text formatted messages, thanks) > 2012/3/28 Camaleón > >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:53:02 +0400, wlan wrote: >> >> > Oh, i was check the checkbox "No proxy" and google search form works, >> > but i still can't postin

Re: sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb John A. Sullivan III: > On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 11:49 +0200, Alberto Fuentes wrote: > > Ive seen that the most optimal sharing desktop is freenx but i > > "aptsearched" (new verb guys! if i can google something i can > > certanly aptsearch as well :) freenx does not

Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:20:14 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 29 mar 12, 14:21:58, Camaleón wrote: >> >> I don't usually pay much attention to what "NEWS.Debian" says > > Do you have apt-listchanges installed? It's Priority: standard now. For this system I don't know... going to check. Yes

Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs

2012-03-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 30 mar 12, 08:31:31, Miles Fidelman wrote: Any suggestions on: - very low level configuration items to fiddle with, - adding even more detailed logging to the very low level code, - or kicking into single step or debug mode down at the very low level, - or something

Re: Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:54:46 -0400, Max Hyre wrote: > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase-runtime, Can you post/upload the exact command you used (how did you manage to remove tha package), what was the output you got and what's in your "sources.list"? > and got a shock whe

printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
Hey guys, Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text document created for eg. by Libre Office, it works fine. If I want to print a PDF produ

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:06:24 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > On 28/03/2012 22:34, Camaleón wrote: (...) > Debian developers, please speed up! Please don't, keep things stable and take your time :-) >>> I want it fast! >> "Fast" does not match with stability and well-tested so

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera > FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian > and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text document > created for eg. by Lib

Re: Some KDE apps depend on kdebase-runtime, which is transitional

2012-03-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Max! I added debian-kde to Cc as there are members of the Debian Qt/KDE packing team subcribed to, while I am not sure whether any of them are subscribed to debian-user. Am Freitag, 30. März 2012 schrieb Max Hyre: > Dear Debian: > > I tried to remove the transitional package kdebase

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 29. März 2012 schrieb francis picabia: > Xen requires a patched kernel. It is unstable. It crashed on > me randomly before I got as far as configuring any VM stuff. > The system which experienced this returned to a standard > Debian kernel and never had a problem again. Not any lo

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
okay, this is one way to take another driver, but often also offering less printing possibilities (for. eg duplex or so). Attached the file, sorry :) Ah I see, so if it is in cups, I could probably report a bug.. but anyway, in Ubuntu it works but does not get back to Debian :) After the error, I

Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs - a little more

2012-03-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
see end Miles Fidelman wrote: Ok... - booting with normal kernel... still doesn't reboot - booting with normal kernel, in single-user mode, with loglevel=7, still doesn't work, with the following as the last few console messages: [36. ...] md: stopping all md devices [36. ...] md: md2 swi

Re: Question on concurrency of init scripts

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:28:18 +0530, Prasant J wrote: > I'm using debian squeeze armel port. > > This is a general question on debian init scripts. I have written my > custom script. When concurrency is set to none everything works fine. > But for faster boot I want concurrency, so I have set the

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:53:24 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: (pelase, keep a bottom-posting style, thanks :-) ) > 2012/3/30 Camaleón : (...) >>> Is there a way to take the Ubuntu PPD file? And if, how I get it to >>> try on the Debian system? >> >> Yes, just copy/paste from one computer to the ot

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? On 30.03.2012 18:21, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:53:24 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > > (pelase, keep a bottom-posting style, thanks :-) ) > >> 2012/3/30 Camaleón : >

[OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Allan Wind
On 2012-03-30 16:29:40, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > If I want to > print a PDF produced by pdfLaTex, it might print one page but if I > print a larger amount, I get the following printout error message: > > ERROR: > undefined > OFFENDING COMMAND: > m > STACK: > --nostringval-- > 133 > > and nothing i

Re: sharing desktop on debian - freenx?

2012-03-30 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 13:45 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:01:30AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > I would strongly suggest looking at X2Go - also NX based. It is a > > relatively young progress but has been making significant progress over > > the last year - www.x2

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversational style, in

Re: Compiling samba (almost) minimally for a NAS

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:34:23 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > I have an ARM NAS that runs Debian, and it is currently serving files > via NFS to some machines of mine. (...) > Is there anybody that has attempted to create such a smaller package? If > yes, which options did you disable? And which bu

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks :). But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote. I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to use top posting and K9 Mail

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Lisi
On Friday 30 March 2012 16:34:54 Paul Johnson wrote: > Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversational style, > inserting new text within the quoted material for context.  Top > posting almost never meets this, bottom posting only works when the > post you're responding to is very short. S

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion. There are many kinds of people, so everyone has different opinion about top/bottom posting :) On 30.03.2012 18:50, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 30 March 2012 16:34:54 Paul Johnson wrote: >> Tho

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion. I usually read/post from my phone. I'm going to have to strongly disagree with that. Top posting makes it that much harder to properly edit a reply for on a mobile device, wh

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:36:25 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Thanks :). > > But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top posting > the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote. That's up to you. And to me ;-) > I know that this can be configured in cli

Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:34:54 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> >>> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion. People with cell phones shouldn't post to mailing lists unless they keep the good rules and manners when doing so >>>:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Alan Chandler
On 27/03/12 06:04, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Hi, I am actually looking forward to Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x. As we all know, Debian 6.0.x is still using the old Linux Kernel 2.6. When will Debian 7.0 be released? Debian with Linux Kernel 3.x release seems very slow when all th

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 13:04 +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > I am actually looking forward to Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x. > As we all know, Debian 6.0.x is still using the old Linux Kernel > 2.6. > > When will Debian 7.0 be released? Debian with Linux Kernel 3.x > release seems v

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera > FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian > and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text > document created for eg. by L

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:55, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen > wrote: >> With phones, it's easier to follow top posting in my opinion. > > I usually read/post from my phone.  I'm going to have to strongly > disagree with that.  Top posting makes it that m

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:13:40 -0700, Hilco wrote in message : > RH employs some of the KVM devs. RH apparently has not contributed to > Xen for several years and has now decided to only support a single > code base: KVM. It does not appear to have anything to do with Xen or > its quality/performan

Re: Grub finds a distro, but messes up grub.cfg

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:53:01 -0400, Frank wrote in message <4f628eed.3090...@videotron.ca>: > On 15/03/12 07:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 15 mar 12, 16:12:04, Frank McCormick wrote: > >> > >> Any clues as to why Grub is doing what it's doing ? > > > > Please post the full output of an

Re: Lilo not recognizing keyboard SOLVED)

2012-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:39:54 -0700, Marc wrote in message <4f751cfa.1050...@gmail.com>: > On 03/27/12 03:59, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 05:43:45 -0500, Stan wrote in message > > ..one thing lilo will do, is hop back to the old disk if you make > > that a menu option. Found that

Re: simple stand-alone firewall

2012-03-30 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Russell L. Harris [120324 07:15]: > >From the standpoint of protection of a LAN (two or three machines) for > a home or home office... ... > Is there a good firewall application in Debian which provides a secure > default configuration? Or must I learn how to configure a firewall? I thank all

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hint: Look for GPG signatures which mention "VERSION: APG" something, they are sent from Android phones. On 30.03.2012 19:09, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:53:09 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> With phones, it's easier to follow top po

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So people should edit those quotes and put what they think inside them, like Kelly just did? On 30.03.2012 19:38, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 08:55, Paul Johnson > wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen >> wr

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:25PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top > posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote. > > I know that this can be configured in client and I have set Icedove to > use top pos

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you link me to Debian list policy / code of conduct? I think that I might have missed that part. On 30.03.2012 20:22, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:25PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> But some people like top posting, like

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" styles? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Though it's generally ideal to go with a conversat

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mika Suomalainen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can you link me to Debian list policy / code of conduct? I think that I might have missed that part. On 30.03.2012 20:22, Jon Dowland wrote: Debian list policy / code of conduct is NOT to top post. Please respect it. (Illu

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 30.03.2012 20:28, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Camaleón >> wrote: >>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:25:42 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >>> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom postin

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 30/03/12 17:55, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:36:25 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Thanks :). But some people like top posting, like me. I think that with top posting the new message is easier to read than, when it's below the quote. That's up to you. And to me ;-) Huh. My god i

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 30/03/12 12:54, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:27:34PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: I beg to differ. Xen virtualization offers superior performance. I say one thing, you say another. Neither of us are providing any evidence to the discussion (thus far) apart from

Re: Xen vs KVM

2012-03-30 Thread Patrick Bartek
> Do you know when RHEL 7 might be released? If you had asked that a couple of months ago, I would have said late 2013 since, in the past, a new release came just before support ended on the version two versions prior to it.  In this case, RHEL 5, whose support ends in early 2014.  But Red Ha

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh, and where is the "Hi," which starts the first message with topposting put with bottom posting? - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5

Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN

2012-03-30 Thread Leonard Le-Rey
2012/3/30 Brian : > On Fri 30 Mar 2012 at 16:29:40 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > >> Debian testing (wheezy) has recognized the network printer Kyocera >> FSC-5100DN correctly, I have first taken the driver offered by Debian >> and then the one offered by Kyocera. If I print I standard text >> docu

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Mika, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Thank you for providing explaining to bottom post. I have now > configured Icedove and K9 Mail to do bottom posting instead of top > posting. Just to do some more nitpicking: You should also remove everything you are not referring to. > -END PGP SIGNATU

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Claudius Hubig wrote: >Hello Mika, > >Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> Thank you for providing explaining to bottom post. I have now >> configured Icedove and K9 Mail to do bottom posting instead of top >> posting. > >Just to do some more nitpicking: Yo

Re: simple stand-alone firewall

2012-03-30 Thread wlan
I think netfilter are better firewall, you can read documentation from iptables. It's really cool. =) 2012/3/30 Russell L. Harris > * Russell L. Harris [120324 07:15]: > > >From the standpoint of protection of a LAN (two or three machines) for > > a home or home office... > ... > > Is there a g

Re: Pinpointing faulty kernel driver?

2012-03-30 Thread Lars Skovlund
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:08:30AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:07:15 +0200, Lars wrote in message > <20120328090715.ga4...@starfish.lan>: > > > Hi all > > > > When upgrading kernel series 3.1.0 to series 3.2.0, suddenly my system > > won't boot. It hangs with the message

chroot ssh and ftp

2012-03-30 Thread Dr Beco
Hi there debian users, I've being searching a "how-to" to work this out, but all I got was old blogs with very strange and different suggestions. I need to configure a system with 3 groups of people: admins, professors and students. Professors can browse all /home of students, can read/write to

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Claudius Hubig wrote: >Hello Mika, > >Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> 1. K9 Maill can only verify inline signatures. > >Hrm. Report a bug? :) > >> 2. Inline signature is easier to verify when reading mailing list >archives. > >Most archives have an opt

Re: When will Debian 7.0 with Linux Kernel 3.x be Released?

2012-03-30 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:31:53PM +0800, Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > On 28/03/2012 16:41, Lisi wrote: .snip > > > >Moreover, Wheezy is available now. You do not need to wait until it is > >released, by when it will no longer be cutting edge, that is, if it even

Re: [OT] Posting styles

2012-03-30 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Mika, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > 1. K9 Maill can only verify inline signatures. Hrm. Report a bug? :) > 2. Inline signature is easier to verify when reading mailing list archives. Most archives have an option to download the ‘plain’ mail including all MIME parts. I have to agree, though,

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