On 04/06/2011 01:36 AM, Virgil Brummond wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed. I was wondering what Debian
has planned for Gnome 3 and the Gnome-Shell.
Are you asking if Debian will reject it in favor of remaining with
v2.32? Or asking how long to will take to reach Testing?
Thanks to everyone who has added stuff to the Smartphone Debian wiki.
:)
If you made some suggestions in emails, & haven't added that to the
wiki, please do so. :)
http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone
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>
> Sorry if this has already been discussed. I was wondering what Debian
> has planned for Gnome 3 and the Gnome-Shell
Well, That's quite a big transition. I remember KDE 4.x reached testing at
version 4.3 (I guess). I seriously doubt that gnome 3.x will appear in next
stable release. But anywa
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:55:30PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> The leap from Lenny to Squeeze is not that big, after all. It's just
> like having Lenny on steroids. There are just too many goodies in
> Squeeze not to upgrade.
>
> What's the big fuss? I've upgraded my better half and our two kids t
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 02:36:43AM -0400, Virgil Brummond wrote:
> Also if anyone was interested or looking forward to using it.
It looks really good. I'm in no hurry to install, better to wait awhile
for the most serious bugs to be fixed.
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> Are you asking if Debian will reject it in favor of remaining with
> v2.32? Or asking how long to will take to reach Testing?
I suppose a bit of both. I am mainly interested when it might be
packaged. Though I am not in a hurry to switch to it.
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On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:55:30PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> The leap from Lenny to Squeeze is not that big, after all. It's just
> like having Lenny on steroids. There are just too many goodies in
> Squeeze not to upgrade.
>
> What's the bi
Thierry Chatelet writes:
> On Tuesday 05 April 2011 20:45:58 Kamil Jońca wrote:
[...]
>
> Try to increase the voltage on memories first (if I recall right what did),
> or
> on cpu. You should find a post from me around the time you give.
> Thierry
Thanks.
I made some changes in BIOS (DDR vol
On 04/06/2011 03:10 AM, Kamil Jońca wrote:
Thierry Chatelet writes:
On Tuesday 05 April 2011 20:45:58 Kamil Jońca wrote:
[...]
Try to increase the voltage on memories first (if I recall right what did), or
on cpu. You should find a post from me around the time you give.
Thierry
Thanks.
I
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> GNU time 1.7
> bss@dellbuntu:~$ type time
> time is a shell keyword
>
> (Bash has a time "builtin" that you should avoid if you want to use the time
> binary.)
Actually it's a keyword not a builtin. By contrast, "kill":
chrisj@alice$ type kill
kill is a shell b
Hi,
I have recently switched to testing and installed amarok 2.4 and found it's
quite broken.
Using an external mysql database doesn't work anymore because my collection
isn't parsed at all as someone else stated on
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620351
Switching to a mysqle dat
Hello everyone,
I'm trying to set up a Chinese environment under the framebuffer Linux console.
I've already installed jfbterm and it can display Chinese for me. How can I
input Chinese into jfbterm?
Also, I can't get jfbterm work with mouse. Can you suggest another framebuffer
terminal which
On Wednesday 06 April 2011 10:10:32 Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Thierry Chatelet writes:
> > On Tuesday 05 April 2011 20:45:58 Kamil Jońca wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Try to increase the voltage on memories first (if I recall right what
> > did), or on cpu. You should find a post from me around the time you
>
Hello everybody ,
i'm tryng to use two network device for improving performance as describe
in http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding and
http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-ethernet-bonding-configuration.html .
I have two problem :
1)I don't see performance increase trying with ftp
2) i have used round roub
On Tue 05 Apr 2011 at 23:24:47 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20110404_190551, Brian wrote:
> > I came to the conclusion there was no risk to the server (unbound in my
> > case) as long as the server was not answering queries from outside my
> > network. Reassurance would be welcome but I'm pret
Hey the Debian Changelog link on the info page of each debian package seems
dead. Can't tell if this is true for all packages, but
for a few I have tried the problem exists. Consider this e-mail a report
rather than a waiting-answer mail.
Cheers,
John
On 04/06/2011 07:15 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
Hey the Debian Changelog link on the info page of each debian package seems
dead. Can't tell if this is true for all packages, but
for a few I have tried the problem exists. Consider this e-mail a report
rather than a waiting-answer mail.
Cheers,
If I see it correctly,
Tyler Smith wrote, on 04/04/11 16:08:
> Chance Platt writes:
>
>
[snip]
>
> I'm running testing/Wheezy.
>>
[snip]
>> The xorg.conf route is pretty easy. Some basic information about
>> xorg.conf: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg
>>
in wheezy X uses udev and the wiki is outda
On 28/03/11 Miles Fidelman said:
> of course you could just run your script under bash
And I am, but why is dash claiming to be a posix shell by being /bin/sh?
Mike
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On 28/03/11 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. said:
> No, brace expansion is not required by any (published[1]) edition of POSIX or
> the Single UNIX Specification.
>
> For this case though, you can generally use (cat /etc/aliases.[12] >
> /etc/aliases).
>
> [1] I'm not sure about the work-in-progress SU
On 2011-04-06, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> On 04/06/2011 07:15 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
>> Hey the Debian Changelog link on the info page of each debian package seems
>> dead. Can't tell if this is true for all packages, but
>> for a few I have tried the problem exists. Consider this e-mail a re
On 2011-04-06, Virgil Brummond wrote:
> Sorry if this has already been discussed. I was wondering what Debian
> has planned for Gnome 3 and the Gnome-Shell. Also if anyone was
> interested or looking forward to using it. I believe it is going to be
> released by upstream in under 24 hours.
Probab
In <4d9c342a.1090...@shadowcat.co.uk>, Chris Jackson wrote:
>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> GNU time 1.7
>> bss@dellbuntu:~$ type time
>> time is a shell keyword
>>
>> (Bash has a time "builtin" that you should avoid if you want to use the
>> time binary.)
>
>Actually it's a keyword not a builti
2011/4/6 Michael Tsang :
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm trying to set up a Chinese environment under the framebuffer Linux
> console.
> I've already installed jfbterm and it can display Chinese for me. How can I
> input Chinese into jfbterm?
>
> Also, I can't get jfbterm work with mouse. Can you sugges
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <4d9c342a.1090...@shadowcat.co.uk>, Chris Jackson wrote:
>>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>> GNU time 1.7
>>> bss@dellbuntu:~$ type time
>>> time is a shell keyword
>>>
>>> (Bash has a time "builtin" that you should avoid if you want to use the
>>> time binary.)
On Wednesday 06 April 2011 21:31:29 张启德 wrote:
> 2011/4/6 Michael Tsang :
>
> Try zchon or fbterm, you should run " zhcon --utf8" instead of "zhcon"
> . The default encoding in zhcon is GB2312,
> but you locale is set to utf8, so zhcon cannot display chinese
> properly. If you want to browse the
Last Udev version have an important error:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
Thanks!
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On 2011-04-06 14:33 +0200, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 28/03/11 Miles Fidelman said:
>
>> of course you could just run your script under bash
>
> And I am, but why is dash claiming to be a posix shell by being /bin/sh?
Brace expansion is not Posix, so dash does not support it. For other
possi
On 2011-04-06 16:13 +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Last Udev version have an important error:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
>
> Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
On snapshot.debian.org. Alternatively, you can rm -rf /run and restart
udev.
Sv
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 04:13:36PM +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Last Udev version have an important error:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
>
> Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
http://snapshot.debian.org/package/udev/166-1/
Note that downgrad
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 04:20:24PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2011-04-06 16:13 +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
>
> > Last Udev version have an important error:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
> >
> > Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
>
> On
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 16:13 +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> Last Udev version have an important error:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
>
> Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
You can get them from: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/udev/166-1/
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 15:20 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 04:13:36PM +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> > Last Udev version have an important error:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621087
> >
> > Where can I find and download the previous 166 version?
>
Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:16:19 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Issue One:
I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user
for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the choice
of a time zone for Israel, only US time zones. The installer mentions
t
El 2011-04-05 a las 09:09 +0200, Informatik.hu escribió:
(forwarding to the list)
> On 2011.03.29. 20:02, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:17:16 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote:
>>
>>> My syslog is full these errors:
>>>
>>> Mar 24 09:15:32 tuban named[1541]: error (unexpected RCODE REFUSED)
A Dimecres 06 Abril 2011 16:30:08, Wolodja Wentland va escriure:
> I assume that you are actually trying to fix a different bug, namely one
> introduced by the premature installation of base-files 6.2 which created
> the /run directory. The fastest fix is probably to just remove /run and be
> done
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:35:08 +1000, Charlie wrote:
> Trying to satisfy a curiosity.
>
> I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all but
> one application file.
>
> Redo: "aptitude update" and it shows that file hangs around for several
> days and doesn't get upgraded when
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 03:37:11PM +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 15:20 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 04:13:36PM +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> > > Last Udev version have an important error:
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug
El 2011-04-05 a las 21:55 -0300, Ezequiel Larrarte escribió:
(forwarding to the list)
> On Apr 5, 2011 1:53 PM, "Camaleón" wrote:
(...)
> >> Another strange thing is that everytime I open a document from the my
> >> samba server using smb://user@server/share/, it asks me the password ..
> >> An
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote:
> On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst .
>>
>> I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the
>> default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze.
>>
>> I found
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:39:40 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:16:19 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> Issue One:
>>> I prefer to install Linux distros in English then configure each user
>>> for his own language. While installing Squeeze I do not have the
>
On Wednesday 06 April 2011 12:10:32 am Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Thierry Chatelet writes:
> > On Tuesday 05 April 2011 20:45:58 Kamil Jońca wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Try to increase the voltage on memories first (if I recall right what
> > did), or on cpu. You should find a post from me around the time
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote:
>> On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the
>>> default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze.
>>>
>>> I found something abou
El 2011-04-06 a las 12:05 -0300, Ezequiel Larrarte escribió:
(resending to the list)
> I follow these steps:
> * Alt+f2 ... Smb://user@host/share
> * Gnome password manager asks me for the authentication information
> * an icon is then created on the desktop to the network share
> * umount the sh
Sometimes my syslog starts filling up with the following message:
Apr 6 08:02:12 olgas kernel: [44546.661749] iwlagn :03:00.0: GF was set
with SGI:SISO
It can occur hundreds of times a *second*.
Does anyone know what is wrong and what can be done to make it stop?
I find that I can make
Hi,
It used to be until yesterday that nouveau (controlled by KMS) was
automatically loaded by the kernel, as well as snd-hda-intel, and the
kernel hadn't changed since (2.6.38-2-amd64), so I imagined in
yesterday's upgrade initramfs-tools changed...
Is this the default now? I added the modules
> Probably the best source of information is the relevant mailing list:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/
Thank you very much! I will give this a look.
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On 20110406_121404, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 05 Apr 2011 at 23:24:47 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> > On 20110404_190551, Brian wrote:
> > > I came to the conclusion there was no risk to the server (unbound in my
> > > case) as long as the server was not answering queries from outside my
> > > netwo
Hello,
I'm trying to compile a 2.6.38 kernel and I'd like to know what would
be the best choice in "processor family" for an intel core i5.
FWIW, linux-image-2.6.32-5 brings CONFIG_M686=y as default.
I'm just wondering if there would be a better suited option for this
cpu.
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kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
[...]
Inspired by posts about setting hardware/bios options, I turned off "H/W
remapping over 4G" (IIRC)
Installation finished succesfully and now I'll try to play with newly 64
bit system. We'll see ...
Thanks.
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On 04/06/2011 03:36 PM, Kamil Jońca wrote:
kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:
[...]
Inspired by posts about setting hardware/bios options, I turned off "H/W
remapping over 4G" (IIRC)
Installation finished succesfully and now I'll try to play with newly 64
bit system. We'll see ...
Than
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:50:43 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:35:08 +1000, Charlie wrote:
>
> > Trying to satisfy a curiosity.
> >
> > I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all
> > but one application file.
> >
> > Redo: "aptitude update" and it sho
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:02:57AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It used to be until yesterday that nouveau (controlled by KMS) was
> automatically loaded by the kernel, as well as snd-hda-intel, and the
> kernel hadn't changed since (2.6.38-2-amd64), so I imagined in
> yesterday's upgrad
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:35:08AM +1000, Charlie wrote:
> I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all but
> one application file.
>
> Redo: "aptitude update" and it shows that file hangs around for
> several days and doesn't get upgraded when I do aptitude
> "safe-upgrade"
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:58:05 -0600
Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:35:08AM +1000, Charlie wrote:
> > I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all
> > but one application file.
> >
> > Redo: "aptitude update" and it shows that file hangs around for
> > sever
Hi,
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:35:48PM +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote:
> Server is pingable, but does not reply to HTTP and FTP.
(subject clarifiedto identify the mirror)
> debian-mirrors is CCd. Perhaps somebody can inform the admins.
admins in CC.
> Am 04.04.2011 18:26, schrieb Heddle Wea
On Wed 06 Apr 2011 at 12:20:42 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> To do this usefully, I have to first figure out how to configure my newly
> installed instance of BIND9. Correct? I don't think I'm there yet...
If all you want to do is have named do lookups and cache the replies it
works without chang
On Tuesday 05 April 2011 23:35:08 Charlie wrote:
> Trying to satisfy a curiosity.
>
> I upgrade my Debian Wheezy system with aptitude and it upgrades all but
> one application file.
>
> Redo: "aptitude update" and it shows that file hangs around for
> several days and doesn't get upgraded when I do
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10326/does-openbsd-use-bcrypt-by-default
Why doesn't every modern Linux Distribution use BCRYPT?
http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bcrypt
WHY
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On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote
On 04/06/2011 01:42 PM, johhny_at_poland77 wrote:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10326/does-openbsd-use-bcrypt-by-default
Why doesn't every modern Linux Distribution use BCRYPT?
http://codahale.com/how-to-safely-store-a-password/
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Bcrypt
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:15:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote:
> [snip]
> >upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it
> >has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be
> >service packs, etc., to the end user, the i
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
> packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would be
> nice to see a list somewhere.
On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would b
Hello,
On 07/04/11 01:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/2011 06:39 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
packages and what ones
I'm working on the development of the next version of Swift Linux
(http://www.swiftlinux.org , http://github.com/swiftlinux). I'm now finding
that when I try to add packages in a script with the "apt-get install -y
" command, I get an error messages "WARNING: The following packages
cannot be a
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:18:45PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 04/06/2011 01:42 PM, johhny_at_poland77 wrote:
> >http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10326/does-openbsd-use-bcrypt-by-default
> >
> >Why doesn't every modern Linux Distribution use BCRYPT?
> >
> >http://codahale.com/how-to-safel
In <20110406231712.gb7...@aurora.owens.net>, Rob Owens wrote:
>With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>packages and what ones are desktop packages?
According to documents on Canonical's site, ther
In , Tom H wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>> packages and what ones are desktop packages?
>
>Server = X-less so WM-less, DE-les
On 04/06/2011 08:19 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
[snip]
First, if you don't have the salt, but you do have the hash, then a rainbow
table attack is completely pointless. Reason being is rainbow tables store
hashes with a 1:1 ration to text. How the table is traversed is another
story, but the fact r
I'm not familiar with the SwiftLinux project.
guess you'll have to manually update your keys.
see this wiki page for instructions.
http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt
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> apollo:/var/www/fss# cat /etc/apt/sources.lst
> cat: /etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory
should be /etc/apt/sources.list
it appears to me that purging "kdepim-dev" and reinstall it afterwards
might be a solution.
and what's th
In <4d9d1b22.2010...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
>On 04/06/2011 08:19 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
>> First, if you don't have the salt, but you do have the hash, then a
>> rainbow table attack is completely pointless.
>
>The OS must store the salt somewhere, in order to correctly authenticate
>the us
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
[snip]
> Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more
> than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue
> mode entry, having the third entry as the default suddenly is not what
> I want. Maybe that won't ha
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote:
[snip]
> 1. Set "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" in "/etc/default/grub" and run
> "grub-set-default "; update-grub". You will then always boot by
> default with the last kernel with which you booted.
you dont boot with the the last entry you used unless you had th
* 2011-04-05T14:02:34-05:00 * Boyd Stephen Smith, Jr. wrote:
> bss@dellbuntu:~$ type time
> time is a shell keyword
There is also this useful option "-a":
$ type -a time
time is a shell keyword
time is /usr/bin/time
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:02:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> The OS must store the salt somewhere, in order to correctly
> authenticate the user when he logs in. But I've never heard of
> /etc/hashsalt so what am I misunderstanding?
Yes, the salt and the password are both stored in the /etc/sha
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:40:58PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <4d9d1b22.2010...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >On 04/06/2011 08:19 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> >> First, if you don't have the salt, but you do have the hash, then a
> >> rainbow table attack is completely pointless.
> >
On 04/06/2011 10:40 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In<4d9d1b22.2010...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 04/06/2011 08:19 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
First, if you don't have the salt, but you do have the hash, then a
rainbow table attack is completely pointless.
The OS must store the salt some
Aaron Toponce:
> For example, say you have the hash 633427ee13ba83a92778c91a795d444564b9214c
> (which actually isn't the encoded format as shown in /etc/shadow, but it
> will illustrate the point). You don't know what salt was used to create
> that hash. It's 160 bits, so it could be SHA1. Assuming
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> The salt is randomly generated each
> time the password is set, and it (usually) different for each entry in
> /etc/shadow.
>
> This increases the size of a rainbow table by a factor of 2^(bits in salt),
> effectively stopping the attack for all but the most high-profile t
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 23:44:30 +0100
Lisi wrote:
> You just need to remember that, in effect, if you run aptitude
> safe-upgrade you are telling aptitude that it mustn't remove
> anything. This restriction may mean that it can't upgrade.
Thanks for that information Lisi.
Aptitude does remove some
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:52:42AM +0200, Martin Ågren wrote:
> In this particular scheme, it appears ('foo','salt') has the same hash
> as ('foosalt',''). In a serious application, hopefully the wheel
> wouldn't be reinvented in this way, but some well-studied, thoroughly
> scrutinized approach wo
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 06:37:38PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> So is the salt a fixed number of characters?
From system to system, it varies. On my Fedora 14 virtual machine, it's 16
characters. On Debian 6.0 stable, it's 8.
> Otherwise, how would a process know which portion of the
> string is the
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:52:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Is the salt just bits that are either pre- or suffixed to your
> password before being run through the hashing function?
The salt is generally appended to the password. For the specific case of
passwd(1), I'm not entirely sure, without
On 04/07/2011 01:20 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:52:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Is the salt just bits that are either pre- or suffixed to your
password before being run through the hashing function?
The salt is generally appended to the password. For the specific case
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 01:31:27AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Having the first 3 characters all be "$6$" makes sense based upon
> the explanation in your other email. I thought that was the salt.
> Each user's salt is definitely different.
Ah, those first 3 characters. Yeah, that tells you that
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