Re: How to keep debian current??

On Fri May 14 2010 11:43:41 pm RyanJB wrote: > >If you want the latest I'd run either testing > >or unstable. I have both stable > >and unstable installed. > >Most of the time I run unstable. > > So considering that, the extra debian iso have practically no use since > later I'll be upgrading packe

Re: How to keep debian current??

Ahh, I mean the other CDs beside the required CD 1 for the installation.. As for the net install, I'm not always connected to the internet.. Just too bad... :( -Original Message- From: Alan Ianson Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 00:02:41 To: Subject: Re: How to keep debian current?? On Fri May

More important question... (was Re: How to keep debian current??)

Since your Internet connection is spotty and you want to stay relatively up-to-date and you're new, why not stay with Ubuntu (or Sidux, for that matter)? I used Mandrake for a year or so, then Libranet (spiritual predecessor to Ubuntu) before making the Debian plunge. It greatly helped to ge

Re: How to keep debian current??

RyanJB wrote: I find a net install works best nowadays. Then you just download and install packages as you want to. The archive is simply huge now so it's a lot to download and burn unless you have machines that are not connected to the net that you want to install or update. Yes, start

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Fri May 14 2010 11:22:54 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/15/2010 01:14 AM, Alan Ianson wrote: > > On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in > >> the "cutting edge"? I mean, how to keep debian as updated

Re: MD subsystem is not loaded

also sprach Hugo Vanwoerkom [2010.05.14.1603 +0200]: > How does one load the MD subsystem? You use it. Unless you use it, you don't need mdadm installed. -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `'` http://p

Re: executable won't execute

Hi, > [readelf output] > > ELF Header: > [...] > INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R 0x1 > [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3] That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling shows that Redhat and Suse seem to be using that one now. A

Re: executable won't execute

On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: >> [readelf output] >> >> ELF Header: >> [...] > >> INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R 0x1 >> [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3] > > That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling sho

Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

B. Alexander put forth on 5/14/2010 10:12 PM: > IMHO, Debian seems to have the best record of successful upgrades. I've in-place upgraded one of my production servers from Woody through Lenny with only relatively minor issues. I've been thoroughly impressed by Debian's dist upgrade reliability si

Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 15 May 2010 00:27:32 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2010-05-14 19:06:06, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: (...) >> So the reality is that anyone wanting to view a flash based site has to >> have Adobe Flash player installed as is the only one able to fully >> support all the feature

Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

On 05/15/2010 04:25 AM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Just one question, Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently still using lenny. Thanks RJB Sent from my BlackBerry

Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 15 May 2010 01:07:28 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Camaleón, > > Am 2010-05-14 21:39:38, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >> You must be kidding. Or at least you must be unaware about the >> existence of pdftk toolkit, iTex and gnupdf library, xournal or >> pdfedit, a set of appli

Re: How to keep debian current??

Final thoughts, After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install some package from sid.. Thanks everyone for the help. Appreciated it a lot :) RJB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat,15.May.10, 00:33:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > Yes, start with a testing netinst > www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and install the base and then > add the sid repos and do an aptitude full-upgrade to the base, after > that you can start to build your testing/unstable system the way yo

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > There are many very proper pdf viewers that handle the auto-refresh very > well. Since pdf got ISO certified, many apps included functionality like > forms. I use okular and kpdf, which do a very good job in rendering also > the complex documents with new pdf stuff (animate

Re: VLC will lag when reading local videos, whatever the codec

On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:18:50 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > When watching videos locally, with VLC, it often lags at some parts of > the videos, and the following kinds of messages are displayed at the > console: > > == > [some time] main video output error: picture [hexadecimal ref.] refcount >

Re: How to keep debian current??

On 2010-05-15, RyanJB wrote: > Final thoughts, > > After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install some > package from sid.. > Be careful. Packages from sid are not (intended to be) compatible with lenny. Consider using backports (http://www.backports.org) instead. > Than

Installing wireless driver offline

Hi everyone, I think I've just commited a mistake here. My wireless driver in my laptop is iwl3945, which is not available by default in a fresh lenny install.. But without it I can't connect to the net to install it.. Anyone know any workarounds?? Can I download the package from another comput

How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Hi, Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an interesting thing to split them among

Re: Installing wireless driver offline

On Sat,15.May.10, 11:21:06, RyanJB wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I think I've just commited a mistake here. My wireless driver in my > laptop is iwl3945, which is not available by default in a fresh lenny > install.. But without it I can't connect to the net to install it.. > Anyone know any workar

how to disable audio and usb mount for users

Hi, I want to refuse access for some users to usb pen and audio. In previous releases (debian, ubuntu , debian-based ..) , it is enough to remove the user from the group. that is in /etc/group audio:x:29:bela plugdev:x:46:bela,geol with theses lines : bela can heard sound, but not geol,f

Re: X starting but nothing shows on the screen

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:42:07PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-05-08 12:42 +0200, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote: > > > Hello, I have a strange problem. > > > > If X is started from gdm at bootup or with /etc/init.d/gdm start then > > it starts (I know this since it beeps when it is up and

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 +, RyanJB wrote: > After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install > some package from sid.. That is probbaly the worst way to deal with your "need" for newer software, as it is quite hard to keep a mixed stable/sid system that could be cons

Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered: > Hello Steve Fishpaste, > > Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > > There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know. 8) Got to be > > careful being so inclusive. There are many uses for PDFs other than

Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2010 01:07:28 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Linux PDF "readers" are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even have > Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems. I thought this, too, until recently when working with compan

Re: executable won't execute

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:45, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: > > >> [readelf output] > >> > >> ELF Header: > >> [...] > > > >> INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R 0x1 > >> [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:55 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 +, RyanJB wrote: > > After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install > > some package from sid.. > > That is probbaly the worst way to deal with your "need" for newer > software, a

Re: How to keep debian current??

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up a new documentation for this problem ;) I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is actually only a stable home system. I do favor current apps though; I often use betas (but not alphas), but I can live with o

Re: executable won't execute

On 5/14/10 6:17 PM, Andrew Reid wrote: > On Thursday 13 May 2010 20:36:41 Kent West wrote: > >> I'm trying to start a daemon for Maple v 14, but when I try to run it, >> the system complains that the file doesn't exist. What's up? >> >> wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/usr/local/Maple_Network_Tools/FLEX

Re: How to keep debian current??

On 05/15/2010 08:16 AM, RyanJB wrote: Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up a new documentation for this problem ;) I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is actually only a stable home system. I do favor current apps though; I often use betas (b

Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:48:31AM +0200, godo wrote: > On 05/15/2010 04:25 AM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote: > >Hi there, > > > >Just one question, > > > >Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new > >iso and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final rel

Re: executable won't execute

On 5/15/10 7:56 AM, Anand Sivaram wrote: > > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:45, Sven Joachim > wrote: > > On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote: > > >> [readelf output] > >> > >> ELF Header: > >> [...] > > > >> INTERP 0x000114 0

Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 15 May 2010 08:52:21 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Linux PDF "readers" are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even >> have Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems. > I thought this, too, until recently when working wit

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:23:09AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/15/2010 08:16 AM, RyanJB wrote: > >Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up > >a new documentation for this problem ;) > > > >I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is > >actually onl

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Onur Aslan wrote: > You're connecting internet via a gateway. You can set a gateway per host > with route(8). When you set a gateway to a host, system will use this > gateway to connect this host. > Sure, but how can I then download different files with different devices (i.e. eth0 and eth1, for

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

You're connecting internet via a gateway. You can set a gateway per host with route(8). When you set a gateway to a host, system will use this gateway to connect this host. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:22:24PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Hi, > > Let's say that you have two internet connections a

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010/5/15 Merciadri Luca > > Hi, > > Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and > consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How > can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you > have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

ceduardo wrote: > 2010/5/15 Merciadri Luca > > Hi have tow suggestions, > The first one. > trickle http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle it is bandwidth shaper. > > The second one > bonding > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding > whit this one you c

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > > The second one > > bonding > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding > > whit this one you can plus the bandwidth. > > > `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks. But will probably not wo

Re: Flash is open?

On 5/14/2010 6:13 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Mark Allums, Am 2010-05-14 07:39:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Flash may not be a priority, sense it performs two functions. One, it acts as the standard web video player. Two, it tries to be a standard web programming interface and SD

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote: > >>> The second one >>> bonding >>> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding >>> whit this one you can plus the bandwidth. >>> >>> >> `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to

Re: MD subsystem is not loaded

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, When I install a kernel I get "MD subsystem is not loaded" as a warning: ... See that is exactly the trouble with rolling ur own kernel. I never set RAID options. Which? Good question. So I made an "educated guess" (what?) and set: h..

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 20:09, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > > > > The second one > > > bonding > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding > > > whit this one you can plus the bandwidth. > > > > > `Bonding' seems to

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:32:05 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks. Sure? I don't think so :-) "Bonding" is for ethernet devices, nothing to do with using your "router's bandwith". Ethernet bonding is like hard disk raid: it will prevent for a "l

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

On Sat,15.May.10, 16:47:07, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > > But will probably not work in you case, as it was meant to combine two > > (or more?) network ports from the same computer connected to the same > > switch. > > > The description says > > == > The Linux bonding driver provides a method

Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Just one question, Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently still using lenny. I do dist-upgrades from Sid, but I also have kept up a s

Re: How to keep debian current??

Alan Ianson wrote: On Fri May 14 2010 11:22:54 pm Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/15/2010 01:14 AM, Alan Ianson wrote: On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote: Hi, With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in the "cutting edge"? I mean, how to keep debian as updated a

Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

On 5/14/2010 9:25 PM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote: Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently still using lenny. I used the testing installer recently, and was amazed at how terri

pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

Hi, (on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2. Then when I do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I see: The following packages have been kept back: grub and The following packages will be upgraded: ... grub-legacy ... but when I do 'aptitude full-upgrade' I see: The following packages wi

Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

On Sat,15.May.10, 10:32:36, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > (on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2. [...] > So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin? Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy grub'. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and dev

New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

Hi, I have just bought a new 3-button mouse since 3-button emulation does not seem to work well in Lenny - I had a lot of trouble with unpredictable behaviour apparently due to contact bounce and getting unwanted context menus, some of whose entries were sometimes unintentionally activated, wit

Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

On 2010-05-15 17:32 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > (on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2. > > Then when I do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I see: > > The following packages have been kept back: > grub > > and > > The following packages will be upgraded: > ... grub-legacy ... > > but w

Re: Flash is open?

Op 15-05-10 14:43, Steve Fishpaste schreef: > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered: >> Hello Steve Fishpaste, >> >> Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: >>> There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know. 8) Got to be >>> careful being so inc

Re: How to keep debian current??

On 05/15/2010 12:48 AM, RyanJB wrote: Hi, With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in the "cutting edge"? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say, ubuntu or even sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome, etc. Maybe using unstable or experimental

Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:17:36AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>+1 Sid/Unstable > > > >Yep, even though it's called unstable it's like a rock.. :) > > Indeed, and that needs to be stressed. "Unstable" it may be called > but I find it very stable, as long as you don't burn your bridges > behin

Re: Flash is open?

On 5/15/2010 11:16 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 15-05-10 14:43, Steve Fishpaste schreef: On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered: Hello Steve Fishpaste, Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know.

Re: How to keep debian current??

Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat,15.May.10, 00:33:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Yes, start with a testing netinst www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and install the base and then add the sid repos and do an aptitude full-upgrade to the base, after that you can start to build your testing/unstable sys

LVM spanning multiple encrypted drives

I use LUKS drive encryption on several machines on my network. The problem I have is that every time I attempt to set up LVM which spans multiple drives, it decrypts the first one, then panics because it can't see the rest of the PVs, because they are still encrypted. For instance, the my backup ma

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,15.May.10, 16:47:07, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > Bonding is not suitable for you because it works too low-level (it is > layer 2), unless you have two links from the same provider, using some > technology that can be bonded (like ADSL). > > AFAIU what you need is

Re: VLC will lag when reading local videos, whatever the codec

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Camaleón writes: > Does this happen if you play the videos with another media player (Totem, > Xine, MPlayer, etc...)? Yes. Both take some time to go further in the video. I sometimes have to wait ~5 secs. to get the video start at the asked time, w

Re: VLC will lag when reading local videos, whatever the codec

On Sat, 15 May 2010 20:18:03 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> Does this happen if you play the videos with another media player >> (Totem, Xine, MPlayer, etc...)? > Yes. Both take some time to go further in the video. I sometimes have to > wait ~5 secs. to get the video start

PDF printing - was: Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:50 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2010 08:52:21 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Linux PDF "readers" are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even > >> have Acrobat Reader installed on my linux s

Re: PDF printing - was: Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 15 May 2010 15:46:36 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:50 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Mmmm... I'm not sure to fully understand the problem :-? (...) >> Is that what are you referring about or are you (or your clients) >> experiencig another problem? > In this

Re: DVD/CD Read Issues

I'm also experiencing this issue with data-DVDs now. Dmesg: [11643.787758] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0 [11643.787834] attempt to access beyond end of device [11643.787835] sr0: rw=0, want=2052, limit=4 [11643.788596] sr 2:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [

Re: New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

On 5/15/10 10:34 AM, Chris Austin wrote: > Hi, > > I have just bought a new 3-button mouse since 3-button emulation does not > seem to work well in Lenny - I had a lot of trouble with unpredictable > behaviour apparently due to contact bounce and getting unwanted context > menus, some of whose e

Re: PDF printing - was: Re: Flash is open?

On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 20:31 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 15 May 2010 15:46:36 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:50 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Mmmm... I'm not sure to fully understand the problem :-? > > (...) > > >> Is that what are you referring about or

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Hello, all. We are attempting to rebuild kdepim on Lenny using patches supplied by the Trinity project (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/) to fix some of the critical Kontact issues. When we try to do so, we fail with: g++ -DHAVE_BOOST -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -g -O2 -g -Wall -O2 -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPAC

Re: Flash is open?

>> I'm not judging whether that attitude is right or not, I'm just giving >> it as an explanation why you don't see good support for PDF >> editing here. It's a problem that most people don't even bump into >> (except when they receive forms from the Windows world). > > I would disagree. You don

Re: MD subsystem is not loaded

Hugo Vanwoerkom put forth on 5/15/2010 9:50 AM: > Trouble is that years ago when I started compiling my own kernel, I did > not start a file with 3 columns: date - function - reason for adding, so > now I have a kernel that keeps getting bigger and I don't know > specifically why the entries are t

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

> Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and > consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How > can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you > have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an interesting thing > to split them a

Re: Flash is open?

In fact, that is what I advocate: Improving Javascript. Also, note: Do not confuse Javascript with Java. Two entirely different animals. MAA Is it really possible in real life? I mean you can have 100% nice working javascript but probably will not working how it should in IE because M$ hav

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 09:53, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and > > consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How > > can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you > > have multiple downloads all

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Thanks. I'll try it. Anand Sivaram wrote: > This is what I was mentioning before. Support you have two cable/dsl > modems connected to a debian machine. Use load balancing using > "netxhop" option of iproute2 as shown by the following link.. > http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.htm

Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

Thanks. Anand detailed the way it should be done. Zoran Kolic wrote: > Using routing tables, of course. > The goal you'd like to get may be tricky the way you post it. > Sounds like the application splits the sources and use both. > The level of it is different. > At least one device should have 2

Re: DVD/CD Read Issues

On Sat, 15 May 2010 23:56:34 +0200 James Stuckey shared this with us all: >I'm also experiencing this issue with data-DVDs now. Just read this so don't know if you're writing about squeeze? Had some problems, so changed my /etc/fstab file dvd to /dev/sr0 because blkid wouldn't pick it up. /dev