unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
i'm a lenny/sid user and have currently got kde4.1 i wanted to get kde4.2, googling 'kde4.2', i learnt that it was there in sid. so i decided to update kde, funny that *both aptitude and apt-get said i've the latest kde*. debian:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4 Reading package lists... Don

unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
i'm having lenny/sid system, with kde4.1, i'd like to upgrade to kde4,2, but both aptitude and apt-get say, my kde is already the latest one available... pls go throught the following and tell me whats wrong.. debian:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4 Reading package lists... Done Building

Re: hald/dbus Question

2009-02-01 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Thomas H. George wrote: >> > Stick with my Debian Lenny 64 bit system but run the Ubuntu 32 bit > system as a chroot. I can reboot to Ubuntu and then reboot back to > Lenny but that's a nuisance. >> X is not available over chroot. I don't remember doing this but there is info I 've seen . Also

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: [snip] main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion. That's Windows-think to say whether a *computer* s a client or server. Such a mindset needs to be b

Re: Cmd Line not wrapping in gnome terminal window

2009-02-01 Thread Kenneth Karlsen
Sridhar M.A. wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:43:08PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: The mouse will make the window bigger, but it doesn't change the font size!! You could try to hold down shift and use the + and - on the numerical keypad to change the font and windowsize. It works for

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Martin Kraus
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 08:34:46AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: >> [snip] >>> main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole >>> client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion. >> >> That's Windows-think

unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
i'm having lenny/sid system, with kde4.1, i'd like to upgrade to kde4,2, but both aptitude and apt-get say, my kde is already the latest one available... pls go throught the following and tell me whats wrong.. debian:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4 Reading package lists... Done Building

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Nuno Magalhães
I don't consider myself windows-centric. I've been using Debian at home since Woody and even though i'm not afraid of the command prompt i don't consider myself a power-user either (i'll get there). The point being yes, i know what clients and servers are and agree with Martin Kraus' definition, wh

Lenny not resuming wireless??

2009-02-01 Thread Javier
Hello, first thank you for your work, and sorry if my english is not very good. I'm unable to use reportbug, it seems that it fails when sending the message and haven't got much time to further investigate why. The bug I'm reporting is about Lenny: The system is unable to correctly suspend and r

trouble with radeon and xrandr

2009-02-01 Thread Simon Kranz
Hello, I am running lenny with XFCE. I have two monitors (2x benq 19" 4:3 monitors) so i want to use them like "extended desktop" in windows. I believe there are two approaches to this: * use free xorg ati driver and xrandr * use non free ati and xinerama / no xinerama I have read the debi

Re: Sendmail wants to auth local mails

2009-02-01 Thread Andics László
Richard A Nelson írta: On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Andics László wrote: Any Srv_Features lines ? No, my access file is have only those two Connect lines. Ok, what does your DAEMON_OPTOINS line look like, M=a will cause this DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MTA,Port=smtp') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MSA,Port=submi

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Jochen Schulz
Nuno Magalhães: >> Would you mind posting the output of 'aptitude why mail-transfer-agent' or >> 'aptitude why exim', whichever is more enlightening? > > $ aptitude why mail-transport-agent > i lsb Depends lsb-core > i A lsb-core Depends exim4 | mail-transport-agent Thanks a lot for showin

X11 keyboard behaving strangely since update

2009-02-01 Thread Stefan Bellon
Hi all, I'm happily running Debian GNU/Linux unstable on my IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T60 (and on all my other machines as well). Yesterday I did an update with the notebook in question (the last update was early in January). Since the update the keyboard in X11 has gone weird. Every second key press

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > No. Lsb is an "extra" package that you almost certainly don't need unless > you are running LSB-compliant closed-source software. LSB stands for > "Linux Standard Base". Google it. Tzafrir Cohen writes: > 'aptitude rdepends lsb-base' gives results such as avahi-daemon, > apache2.2-co

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:58:01PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > Greetings. > > I use webmail, i'm not running a mail server. At most i'd use an MUA > to comunicate with whichever mail services i use. However, i must have > exim4 installed. How can i work around this? Regardless of how much

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread pierpaolo
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > The way i see it, most "regular users" either use webmail, or an MUA > to conenct to webmail accounts. Technicaly speaking, i think there > should be a way to configure mail-dependant programs to either use an > MTA or use a regular syslog

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:21:24PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: ... > Back to exim, if i have X i have x11-common (and i also have avahi) > therefore i apaprently must have lsb, which i believe is a metapackage > for lsb-* (i have base, core, cxx, etc installed). So apaprently i > can't just r

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Mirko Scurk
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/31/2009 03:27 PM, Nuno MagalhĂŁes wrote: >>> Try to run `free' to get a more detailed break up (or even "cat >>> /proc/meminfo"). >> >> Running free -g on my system returns 3. I have 4. >> Running cat /proc/meminfo returns 4030668KB, which is 3.84GB according > > That's

Re: Sendmail wants to auth local mails

2009-02-01 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: cow...@debian.org >To: laci...@gmail.com >Subject: Re: Sendmail wants to auth local mails >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:27:50 -0800 (PST) > >>On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Andics László wrote: >> >>> I have these two Connect lines: >>> " >>> Connect:localhostRELAY >

Re: Scim does not work with openoffice

2009-02-01 Thread 刘建才
于 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:06:21 -0500 "H.S." 写道: > Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for your help. ... > > I see from your past emails that you are using gnome. Do you get the > scim icon (the gray keyboard icon) on your panel when you do 'scim -d'? > > Also, since you are starting gnome

cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
'm a lenny/sid user and have currently got kde4.1 i wanted to get kde4.2, googling 'kde4.2', i learnt that it was there in sid. so i decided to update kde, funny that *both aptitude and apt-get said i've the latest kde*. debian:~# aptitude -t experimental install kde4 Reading package lists... Done

Re: The most windows-centric/linux-unfriendly web site yet?

2009-02-01 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
A. F. Cano wrote: > > In any case, I extracted the video file from the exe file with unzip and > I can watch it just fine locally. Maybe it was a combination of network > congestion, the video driver and the web site quirk. > >>>... > > A. IT was working for me fine also from the webpage reg

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 February 2009 16:17:15 raman narasimhan wrote: > 'm a lenny/sid user and have currently got kde4.1 > i wanted to get kde4.2, googling 'kde4.2', i learnt that it was there in > sid. so i decided to update kde, funny that *both aptitude and apt-get said > i've the latest kde*. > > debian

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:17 -0500, raman narasimhan wrote: [ ... snip ... ] > whats wrong?? how can i get kde4.2?? KDE4 is available in Debian *experimental*, which is not enabled in your sources.list. If you want to install KDE4 i suggest you follow the procedure given at: http://pkg-kde.al

Re: unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Sunday 01 February 2009 10:38:10 raman narasimhan, vous avez écrit : > i'm a lenny/sid user and have currently got kde4.1 > i wanted to get kde4.2, googling 'kde4.2', i learnt that it was there in > sid. so i decided to update kde, funny that *both aptitude and apt-get said > i've the latest kde

Re: CUPS printing without server?

2009-02-01 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 03:02:21PM -0500, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > You may have to tell your CUPS client where the server is by adding > ServerName > to /etc/cups/client.conf This helped, thanks. It was hard to find in the documentation, though. However, it's only part of the problem. Once set,

update-alternatives: how do i get a listing of the names of all link groups?

2009-02-01 Thread Paul E Condon
There are several command options to update alternative that require that the user supply a name or a specific link group. 'link group' is a term of art for which there is much discussion in the man page, but I don't see instructions for merely listing all the legitimate current values of the name

Re: update-alternatives: how do i get a listing of the names of all link groups?

2009-02-01 Thread Jochen Schulz
Paul E Condon: > There are several command options to update alternative that require > that the user supply a name or a specific link group. 'link group' is > a term of art for which there is much discussion in the man page, but > I don't see instructions for merely listing all the legitimate cur

Re: update-alternatives: how do i get a listing of the names of all link groups?

2009-02-01 Thread Dave Witbrodt
Paul E Condon wrote: There are several command options to update alternative that require that the user supply a name or a specific link group. 'link group' is a term of art for which there is much discussion in the man page, but I don't see instructions for merely listing all the legitimate cur

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Jerry Stuckle
Martin Kraus wrote: On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 08:34:46AM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/31/2009 09:24 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote: [snip] main concern. I guess having an MTA is a side-effect of the whole client/server thing; prejucide or not it's an opinion. That's Windows-thi

Re: Web page development tools in Lenny?

2009-02-01 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 21:26 -0500, A. F. Cano wrote: > > Ahh... I think iceape was called mozilla-iceape in Etch, and so I looked > for "mozilla" in aptitude and of course didn't find anything. I see it's > there as just "iceape", so I have a fallback position. Has anyone tried > vimperator wit

Re: Sendmail wants to auth local mails

2009-02-01 Thread Richard A Nelson
On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Andics László wrote: DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=MSA,Port=submission,Modifiers=aE') Check submit.mc for the msp feature line - you'll want to make sure the port is 25 instead of 587 ... something like: FEATURE(`msp', `[127.0.0.1]', `25')dnl -- Rick Nelson Ever heard of .c

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 12:49 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: [snip] I never said server machines can't run client applications. But the term "server" has always referred to machines who's main purpose is to provide services to other machines (clients). As I said - it has been that way for the more than 40

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: [snip] Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? That would only be an issue if he could only see (I think) 2GB of his 4GB RAM. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I am not surprised, for we live long and are celebrated poope

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:21:24PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: [snip] > > For now i'll stick with Florian Kulzer's suggestion of reducing DNS, > since that's the main issue for me (slow booting). if its a start up problem, and you are not really using the mta why not go update-rc.d -f exim4 r

Re: update-alternatives: how do i get a listing of the names of all link groups?

2009-02-01 Thread Kenneth Karlsen
Paul E Condon wrote: There are several command options to update alternative that require that the user supply a name or a specific link group. 'link group' is a term of art for which there is much discussion in the man page, but I don't see instructions for merely listing all the legitimate cur

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:01:14 David Fox wrote: > > It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on > filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't > include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000, > although that is more likely to be a

Re: Can't browse local network

2009-02-01 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 09:34:10 +0100, Allan Dreyer Andersen wrote: > Hey guys > > I must have messed something because suddenly I can't browse my local > home network. I have reintalled samba, samba-common and added smbclient, > smbfs but it doesn't change anything. > > Do I need to add other

Re: lenny: mouse clicks are not registering reliably

2009-02-01 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 02:10:28 -0500, Allan Wind wrote: > I just upgraded my laptop from etch to lenny and found that (wacom) > mouse clicks are now intermittently either ignored or take some > significant fraction of a second to register. It seems like there is > intermittent latency on keyb

Re: X11 keyboard behaving strangely since update

2009-02-01 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 10:39:25 +0100, Stefan Bellon wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm happily running Debian GNU/Linux unstable on my IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad > T60 (and on all my other machines as well). > > Yesterday I did an update with the notebook in question (the last > update was early in January). >

GUI crashes in the last few weeks (caused by iceweasel??)

2009-02-01 Thread Alon Horn
hi, in the last couple of weeks i've experianced a few gui crashes, ie screen blinking for a few seconds until some blue sreen with a Xorg-something error shows up. it seem to be since an iceweasel & xorg updates that were made 14/1, and allways seem to happen when the active window is iceweasel.

Re: calender, contacts, appts., to do list, etc. server for Debian

2009-02-01 Thread H.S.
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I"ve used egroupware, and I think there is phpgroupware, a > fork. Tthose a pretty heavy solutions, but they work. > > A I did an apt-cache search for groupware and found these: citadel, egroupware and phpgroupware. Further, based on these I did a google search

Re: unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Jens Van Broeckhoven
On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:50:39 raman narasimhan wrote: > i'm having lenny/sid system, with kde4.1, i'd like to upgrade to kde4,2, > but both aptitude and apt-get say, my kde is already the latest one > available... pls go throught the following and tell me whats wrong.. > > > > debian:~# aptit

Re: unable to get kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Daryl Styrk
> > See: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html > > Jens. > > Those instructions work perfectly for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: xpdf segfaults

2009-02-01 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Girish Kulkarni wrote: > Hi, > > I use Etch x86_64. > > My xpdf (3.01-9.1+etch5) was working all right until now, before it > suddenly started giving a Segmentation Fault. I wonder if this has > happened to anyone before. > > I prefer not to use Evince or Adobe Acrobat Reader -- which anyway i

Re: lenny: mouse clicks are not registering reliably

2009-02-01 Thread Allan Wind
Hi Florian, Thanks for your input. On 2009-02-01T22:38:31, Florian Kulzer wrote: > Start an xterm (or konsole, gnome-terminal, etc.), run "xev" and move > the mouse pointer over the small window that opens. If you press mouse > buttons now, do you see the same delay until the events (ButtonPress,

Re: [OT] C++ templates and debugging (limitations) in Linux

2009-02-01 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
H.S. wrote: >> There are more appropriate places than debian-user for C++ questions. > > Yes. There is a news group for C++, but the people there are topic > nazis. Anything not strictly related to the standard is promptly > flogged, hanged, skinned and left to dry. :) > > My query, however, was

rereading/reloading keyboard layout files without relogging in?

2009-02-01 Thread H.S.
Hello, If I change a key map definition in a file in /etc/X11/xkb directory, is there is a way I can re-read that file for the new keyboard layout to be effective without having to relogin? I know xrdb can be used to reread .Xdefaults. Hopefully something similar can be done for the keyboard defi

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
hey but experimental is same as 'sid' On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Wolodja Wentland < wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:17 -0500, raman narasimhan wrote: > [ ... snip ... ] > > > whats wrong?? how can i get kde4.2?? > > KDE4 is available in Debian *experimenta

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
hey i think sid and experimental are the same On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Wolodja Wentland < wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:17 -0500, raman narasimhan wrote: > [ ... snip ... ] > > > whats wrong?? how can i get kde4.2?? > > KDE4 is available in Debian *exp

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 03:24:57AM +, Nuno Magalhães was heard to say: > > Would you mind posting the output of 'aptitude why mail-transfer-agent' or > > 'aptitude why exim', whichever is more enlightening? > > $ aptitude why mail-transport-agent > i lsb Depends lsb-core > i A lsb-cor

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 04:30:49PM -0800, Daniel Burrows was heard to say: > $ aptitude search '?depends(mail-transport-agent)' Sorry, that should be $ aptitude search '?installed?depends(?name(^mail-transport-agent$))' to restrict it to installed packages and to make extra-sure no

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Daryl Styrk
raman narasimhan wrote: > hey i think sid and experimental are the same I thought sid = unstable and experimental was just that. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> So a stick of memory advertised as 4 Gigabytes is going to present itself to > your computer as 3.84 Gibibytes, roughly. Er... what's the standard in Debian? 1024, right? We're still being logical here, right? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: cant update to kde4.2

2009-02-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 01 February 2009 18:37:23 Daryl Styrk wrote: > raman narasimhan wrote: > > hey i think sid and experimental are the same > > I thought sid = unstable and experimental was just that. Yes. As of now: Etch = stable Lenny = testing Always: Sid = unstable Experimental is a supplement to Si

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:04:38 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > So a stick of memory advertised as 4 Gigabytes is going to present itself > > to your computer as 3.84 Gibibytes, roughly. > > Er... what's the standard in Debian? 1024, right? We're still being > logical here, right? Sorry, it's more l

creating a bootable cd in k3b

2009-02-01 Thread raman narasimhan
i dont know how to create a bootable cd using K3b. Pls help

Re: I don't need an MTA

2009-02-01 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Sorry, that should be > >$ aptitude search '?installed?depends(?name(^mail-transport-agent$))' > > to restrict it to installed packages and to make extra-sure nothing > else sneaks in. Before i saw your second post i ran: $ aptitude search '?depends(mail-transport-agent)' |grep ^i i A at

Re: prevent access to a hard drive completely

2009-02-01 Thread gcrimp
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 08:56:57AM +0400, Olive wrote: > My internal hard disk is dead: it makes a strange noise and remain in > the position on indefinitely. I have installed Linux on an external hard > drive (and I boot from a CD since this is an old laptop not being able > to boot from USB).

Re: GUI crashes in the last few weeks (caused by iceweasel??)

2009-02-01 Thread Jens Van Broeckhoven
On Sunday 01 February 2009 23:48:25 Alon Horn wrote: > hi, > in the last couple of weeks i've experianced a few gui crashes, ie > screen blinking for a few seconds until some blue sreen with a > Xorg-something error shows up. it seem to be since an iceweasel & xorg > updates that were made 14/1, an

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 02:49 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: On Saturday 31 January 2009 21:01:14 David Fox wrote: It isn't that RAM has a FAT - those things only are present on filesystems. It is more likely that free's interpretation doesn't include kernel memory. Also, 4gb may be 4*1024*1024 not 4*1000*1000,

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Sunday 01 February 2009 17:59:07 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/01/2009 02:49 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: > > > > No, the issue is that manufactures advertise in *1000, while computers > > use > > Hard drive manufacturers, not RAM manufacturers. > > My beard's grey enough to remember when drive manufac

Re: creating a bootable cd in k3b

2009-02-01 Thread steve
raman narasimhan wrote: > i dont know how to create a bootable cd using K3b. Pls help start k3b, on the main screen choose "burn cd image" if your using a dvd, choose "burn dvd image" then select the image to burn. -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com ~ Netiquette ~ http://www.writerswri

Re: Use of Swap Space

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 08:15 PM, Lee Glidewell wrote: [snip] You know what they say about people who assume. ;) I'll go stand in the corner now. With your nose pressed into the corner, touching that dust spot at eye level. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "I am not surprised, for we live lon

Help to mount USB Card reader with micro SD in slot

2009-02-01 Thread Oscar Corte
Hi all: I'm connecting a usb (multiple card reader) to my PC. I usually use mount -t vfat /dev/sdx /mnt/usbmemory, having x to be the usb device number. After connecting the usb car reader with one 512k micro SD in one of its 3 slots, dmesg|tail reports usb 3-1: new full speed USB device

Re: Help to mount USB Card reader with micro SD in slot

2009-02-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/01/2009 09:05 PM, Oscar Corte wrote: Hi all: I'm connecting a usb (multiple card reader) to my PC. I usually use mount -t vfat /dev/sdx /mnt/usbmemory, having x to be the usb device number. After connecting the usb car reader with one 512k micro SD in one of its 3 slots, dmesg|tail