Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 02.04.07 12:07, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server > so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from > it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some > instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? I wonder, why do you ask here

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
Ron Johnson wrote: > Glen Pfeiffer wrote: >> What do you think about adding a new release type maybe >> called "current"? >> [snip] > > That's called http://www.backports.org Thank you for reminding me. I have not yet had the opportunity to use backports since I started with etch. I may

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > > > would be the same for the 2200 as well. > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 23:38 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > There seems to be binary packages available for both of the

Re: test message

2007-04-03 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.04.07 07:20, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote: > From: "S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:20:33 +0600 > Subject: test message > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > hi all, >I join this list more then 3 days ago, still now not getting any mail. > That's why

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 04/02/2007 04:50 PM, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, >> Joey Hess described Constantly Usable Testing, it sounds a >> bit like your suggestion. >> http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cu

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
Owen Heisler: > > We have the names: Sarge, Etch, Lenny > and aliases: stable, testing, sid I am not sure whether I understand this correct, but I think you got the current release process wrong. Sid is always unstable, it will never be released. Lenny is going to start off as an exact copy of sa

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-03 Thread Mirko Scurk
Listas Locatel wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich escribió: >> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: >>> If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has fewer security holes because >>> reason>,

Re: Crashed X - Hard re-boot

2007-04-03 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Florian Kulzer wrote: > I think another advantage of using [xkg]dm is avoiding the > CTRL-ALT-F1, CTRL-Z attack against the X screen lock > (if you leave your computer unattended and somebody else could > walk along and use the keyboard). Kent West wrote: > Or just append an ampersand to your star

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Mirko Scurk
Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > David Baron wrote: >> Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had >> anything to >> do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? >> >> The price of bread, love or hate Wallmart or Sponge-Bob, Ubuntu or Dell

Re: Postfix-Sender and recipient restriction problem

2007-04-03 Thread Mihira Fernando
Semih Gokalp wrote: > I have already visit postfix offical site and I applied it but still I > have a problem.I sent mail to group about my problem after check postfix > offical site ok. > > I want to some mail account can send mail and some mail account receive > mail from other mail address. Are

ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

2007-04-03 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html ? Maybe this is the way to reach hardware vendors if they don't ask their customers by them self like Dell did. -- Regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raquel wrote: > It depends. We use stable on our desktops here because we see no > need to have the bleeding edge software. We're more interesting in > getting the job done. > I think that also depends on the type of the work. The object of the new

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Wei Chen wrote: >> So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. >> Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous >> nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new release type maybe ca

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Podreka wrote: > Wei Chen wrote: >> So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. Testing is >> the best choice because it is neither too dangerous nor too old. >> >> After listening to the suggestions on the list, I have made my de

Get Amilo Pro V3205 to see Intel Pro Wireless 3945abg -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Jiri Svoboda
> You should have no problem with this, my Intel Pro Wireless 3945 works > fine with Etch. It depends on which model you have. You'll need to > install the appropriate drivers. # (*) If you don't have a gui installed you /etc/apt/sources.list. You can then use aptitude in interactive mode to in

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mirko Scurk wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> David Baron wrote: >>> Most recently, how much of the heavy traffic on this list has had >>> anything to >>> do with Debian? With Linux? With computers? >>>

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > On 04/02/2007 04:50 PM, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >>> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, >>> Joey Hess described Constantly Usable Testing, it sounds

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Schulz wrote: > Owen Heisler: >> We have the names: Sarge, Etch, Lenny >> and aliases: stable, testing, sid > > I am not sure whether I understand this correct, but I think you got the > current release process wrong. Sid is always unstable, it

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
Wei Chen: > > Might there be conflicts for backports and "distribution upgrade"? Theoretically: yes. But since backport.org's maintainers are Debian developers themselves (at least most of them, I think), compatibility to the official repositories is very good and there shouldn't be any problems

Re: Get Amilo Pro V3205 to see Intel Pro Wireless 3945abg -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Lubos Vrbka
hi, wireless on this laptop works fine, see my post on http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ site, or on my website (lubos.vrbka.net/misc_ntb.html) for the relevant config things. I just did that (*) but the system will not load the ipw3945 driver. Is there something I am missing? i think it shou

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
Joe Hart: > Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Owen Heisler: >>> We have the names: Sarge, Etch, Lenny >>> and aliases: stable, testing, sid >> >> I am not sure whether I understand this correct, but I think you got the >> current release process wrong. Sid is always unstable, it will never be >> released. L

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Owen Heisler
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 09:28 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Owen Heisler: > > > > We have the names: Sarge, Etch, Lenny > > and aliases: stable, testing, sid > > I am not sure whether I understand this correct, but I think you got the > current release process wrong. Sid is always unstable, it will

delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff Zhang
I have a simple txt file, like: ... a a aa a b b ba b ... I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete the follow lines that contain duplicated ones in column 2. then it will like: ... a a b b ... I've tried `uniq -f1` but it didn't work.

Re: test message

2007-04-03 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
thanks, it's now working ok :) On 4/3/07, Matus UHLAR - fantomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03.04.07 07:20, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote: > From: "S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 07:20:33 +0600 > Subject: test message > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > h

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Zhang wrote: > I have a simple txt file, like: > ... > a a > aa a > b b > ba b > ... > > I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete > the follow lines that contain duplicated ones in column 2. > then it will like: >

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > So why not do both? Assuming that all your hardware runs under Etch, > have a good etch setup that "just works", on one set of > partitions/drives. Put /home on its own partition. Put Lenny on its > own set of partition

Re: test message

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote: > thanks, it's now working ok :) > > On 4/3/07, *Matus UHLAR - fantomas* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > hi all, > >I join this list more then 3 days ago, still now not getting > any mail. > > That's why testin

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 CaT wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:10:08PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: >> You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and >> software will not get into it any more. >> >> So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etch or to s

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff Zhang
On 4/3/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Zhang wrote: > I have a simple txt file, like: > ... > a a > aa a > b b > ba b > ... > > I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete > the follow lines that contain dup

Re: LDAP Authentication problem

2007-04-03 Thread Christoph Buchli
Hi all Jeah. It worked now. I can authenticate on a Novell SELS9 LDAP-Server. The link to the thread on the newsgroup de.comp.sys.novell (unfortunately in German) is here: http://tinyurl.com/36gz8y Thanks to all for help... kindly regards, christoph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Get Amilo Pro V3205 to see Intel Pro Wireless 3945abg -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Ananda Samaddar
> # > > > > Ananda > --- > Hi all ;) > > Can you specify that little more? > > I just did that (*) but the system will not load the ipw3945 > driver. Is there something I am missing? > > ipw3945d and the firmware are installed. > > / Jiri > You also need to install ipw3945-modules-x

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Schulz wrote: > Wei Chen: >> Might there be conflicts for backports and "distribution upgrade"? > > Theoretically: yes. But since backport.org's maintainers are Debian > developers themselves (at least most of them, I think), compatibility to >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Steve Lamb wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied >> their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's >> pretty obvious that the "QCs don't apply" provision was the >> operational part of this order, and n

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-03 Thread Thomas H. George
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 05:19:29PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: > > >On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:17:05AM -0700, Jeff D wrote: > >>On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: > >> > >>>After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a > >>>regu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied >> their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's >> pretty obvious that the "QCs don't apply" p

Re: Rejected posting [Was: Re: Halt [Display Keyboard and mouse] when gdm shows its login screen]

2007-04-03 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Shareef.Bassiouny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dear Moderator > > i dont uderstand this refusal ; kindly clarify > > I'm not the moderator, but I can try to clarify. It looks to me like > you were trying to post to debian-user through google groups

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-03 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:04:49AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 02.04.07 12:07, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server > > so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from > > it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some >

how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread michael
I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? Thanks, Michael Subject: Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ? Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:27:40 +0100 On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 15:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED ME

Re: Get Amilo Pro V3205 to see Intel Pro Wireless 3945abg -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread jiri
Ananda Samaddar wrote: # Ananda --- Hi all ;) Can you specify that little more? I just did that (*) but the system will not load the ipw3945 driver. Is there something I am missing? ipw3945d and the firmware are installed. / Jiri You also need to install ipw3945

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:19:10PM +0800, Jeff Zhang wrote: > I have a simple txt file, like: > ... > a a > aa a > b b > ba b > ... > > I want to just keep the lines that first appeared in column 2 and delete the > follow lines that contain duplicated ones in column 2. > then it will like: > ... >

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 08:33:49PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > So why not do both? Assuming that all your hardware runs under Etch, > > have a good etch setup that "just works", on one set of > > partitions/drives. Put /home on its own partition. Put Lenny on its >

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/07 07:39, Jeff Zhang wrote: [snip] > > > I just care about duplicated ones in column 2, if so, to delete the line. Does it matter which line is deleted? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 April 2007 02:27, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > As to why I say nothing can be done, what I see as > major defects are inevitable consequences of what Richard clearly > views as essential features. Beautifully said

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/07 08:27, michael wrote: > I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) > but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? The group is linux.debian.user. What problems are you having? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jeffe

Re: delete lines that contain duplicated column items

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff Zhang
On 4/3/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/07 07:39, Jeff Zhang wrote: [snip] > > > I just care about duplicated ones in column 2, if so, to delete the line. Does it matter which line is deleted? no, have a unique column 2 and keep

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:39:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:53:08PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >> ...a real part of Sissy Boy George's "Text of order signed by President >> Bush on Feb. 7, 2002, outlining treatment of al-Qaida and Taliban >>

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 michael wrote: > I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) > but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? > > Thanks, Michael > > Subject: Re: [ML ISSUE] reply-to field ? > Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:27:40 +0100 > On

RE: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Bruffey, Mark
OK, now the card is seen by iwconfig. Had to install the firmware as instructed, thanks. Not able to connect to WAP, however, so need a couple of pointers there. This system is set to connect by wire to my work LAN, so I think I need a separate config file for when I am at home. Home: Network

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Jochen Schulz
Wei Chen: > Jochen Schulz wrote: >> >> Theoretically: yes. But since backport.org's maintainers are Debian >> developers themselves (at least most of them, I think), compatibility to >> the official repositories is very good and there shouldn't be any >> problems apart from human mistakes. Excepti

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. > > Doug writes: > > Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer > > so I don't really understand. > > You've put your finger on a major defect. > >

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Michael M.
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 06:51 +, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, Joey Hess > >> described Constantly Usable Test

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:49 +, Joe Hart wrote: > This point has already been answered in the Sidux forums. They have no > plans of tracking testing. Sidux = Sid. I guess I made my point, but wrongly. CUT should be NEWER versions of things in Testing, perhaps everything the same as Sid, but

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 09:14 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > > > > would be the same for the 2200 as well. > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 23:38 +0200, Sven Arvid

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:15:52AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. > > Doug writes: > > > Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer > > > so I don't really unders

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > CaT wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:10:08PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > >> You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new > >> features and software will not get into it any more. > >> > >> S

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:46:49AM +, Joe Hart wrote: > > It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which > I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. > Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list t

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:51:02AM +, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >> There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, Joey Hess > >> described Constantly Usable Tes

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
"Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I rebooted and gdm starts, opens icewm with aforementioned problems. > > I can only stop gdm as root. > > If I run startx as tom it starts gdm and opens icewm with the same ^^^ gdm too? That's strange ... > probl

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver > Petition at > http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html > ? > Maybe this is the way to reach hard

Debian etch on SONY VAIO VGN-FE880E/H

2007-04-03 Thread L . V . Gandhi
I have searched google, tuxmobile, linux-laptop etc. I could n't find any much useful info regarding installing etch as dual boot in SONY VAIO VGN-FE880E/H. I will be thankful for any advice or pointers regarding partioin shrinking retaining all that sony gives intially including its restore parti

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> I wrote: >>> It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. >> Doug writes: >>> Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer >>> so I don't rea

Re: Noobe XDM questions

2007-04-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:25:42PM -0700, Terrence Branscombe wrote: > > Kinda new to Debian, and Linux, so forgive me if this has been > > covered to death already, but the docs suggest that users can

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 06:51 +, Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: There have been a lot of talk and sug

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Joe Hart wrote: > It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the > file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. > According to the official documentation, you're not supposed to directly > edit that file, but I know it is possible. BUT you cannot let

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-03 Thread Wayne Topa
Bruffey, Mark([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > OK, now the card is seen by iwconfig. Had to install the firmware as > instructed, thanks. > > Not able to connect to WAP, however, so need a couple of pointers there. > This system is set to connect by wire to my work LAN, so I think I

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 10:49 +, Joe Hart wrote: >> This point has already been answered in the Sidux forums. They have no >> plans of tracking testing. Sidux = Sid. > > I guess I made my point, but wrongly. I understood you

Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Walker
Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? --- Here is what I did to this point: apt-get

known_hosts are encrypted ?

2007-04-03 Thread Bhasker C V
All, I use bash completion and was pretty happy for some time till i upgraded to etch. I see that the .ssh/known_hosts file for all the new entries added contains one line per host added as |1|= since this is encrypted, bash_completion somehow is not working for me. Is there any method to fix th

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg, > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not appropriate here, > then send it to me off list please. > > Joe If off list then please

Re: known_hosts are encrypted ?

2007-04-03 Thread Bhasker C V
All, Sorry for the query I figured this out There is /etc/ssh/ssh_config which has an option HashKnownHosts if HashKnownHosts yes then the hostnames are not in plain text in the known_hosts file of the user. So, bash_completion is not able to get the hostnames. thanks On Tue, 2007-04-03

Bad cups printing after upgrade from sarge to etch

2007-04-03 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
Hi. I had a sarge system running as a print server. After upgrading it to etch, I recreated the cups config files (the old ones didn't work) and the printers. The strange thing is... I have an Epson Stylus Color 850, and there are two drivers in the list given by Cups that would work with it: -

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

2007-04-03 Thread Margiolas Christos
I also believe to the movement of Intel and I think that Intel's choice will help the open source but unfotunatelly many people have ati's or nvidia's graphic card and i'm one of them. I have a laptop whith the ati express 200m. I bought this product cause of the good cpu and its very good price.

Re: GPL v3 ?

2007-04-03 Thread Matthew Johnson
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote: > I'd like to know what the more knowledgeable people here would have to > say about the GPLv3 though, since I really don't know much about it > except that it covers DRM (Which previous versions of the GPL didn't > touch). > > Does anyone have a lis

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread michael
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 08:39 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/03/07 08:27, michael wrote: > > I'm trying to read d-u as a newsgroup using Evolution (details below) > > but can't get it to work... anybody else succeeded? > > The group is linux.de

Re: Noobe XDM questions

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 06:48:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:25:42PM -0700, Terrence Branscombe wrote: > > > Kin

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:45:48PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:34 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> I wrote: > >>> It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. > >> Doug writes: > >>> Would you elaborate?

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 03 April 2007 11:12, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > And since many people are complaining about OT stuff already. I'll > stop. I'm not sure that discussion of the license under which (virtually) all of Debian is lice

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 05:45:48PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > > About all I can say without going into a long and very OT response > > (tirade as some would call it). > > > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opin

Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver

2007-04-03 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 11:00 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver > Petition at > http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html I've added mine. On my one and a half year old HP I still lack hardware 3D with the radeon dr

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:46:49AM +, Joe Hart wrote: >> It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which >> I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. > > > Actually, I have yet

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 05:19:29PM -0700, Jeff D wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:17:05AM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: >

fetchmail syslog messages

2007-04-03 Thread Paul E Condon
I've turned on logging in fetchmail because I'm curious about some claims that it (fetchmail, not loggign) does bad things. I find that every time fetchmail polls my ISP's imap server it writes the following messages into syslog: Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server CommonName mismatch: loc

Re: Noobe XDM questions

2007-04-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:48:30 +0300, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And it might also be that .xsession is ignored if you run *dm. This is certainly not the case using xdm. manoj ps: I certainly see these things happen in my sessions #!/bin/zsh # $XConsortium: xini

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: [snip] >> I agree that something needs to be done so that Sid doesn't have to >> freeze when Testing freezes. Right now there are loads of packages >> waiting in experimental for Etch to release so they can enter Sid. It's >> k

Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22PM -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > > I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? > Here is what I did to this point: > > apt-

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 04/03/2007 10:50 AM, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> This is not the right forum for me to express my opinions as >> to what is wrong with GPLV3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to > voice your opinion, I'm asking. I too am interested. Do you think we c

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> It sounds to me like something modified your prefs.js file. That is the >> file that controls which mail folders and accounts are available. >> According to the official documentation, you're not su

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 13:58 -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 03 April 2007 11:12, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > And since many people are complaining about OT stuff already. I'll > > stop. > > I'm not sure that

Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > [message snipped] > > Anybody got a hint or even better, a solution (one that does not > involve -- wait for Etch, etc...I know someone wants to say that!) ??? I do not know the solution for Sarge. I am using

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:45 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Greg, > > I am very interested in the GPLv3. > > This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice > your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not appropriate here, then > send it to me off list please. debian-legal@lists

Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:47:22 -0500, Dave Walker wrote: > Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). > > I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? > -

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> Exactly my point. There are a few similar, but not quite so direct as > that. It seems that even the rudest people here have some tact. That > is one reason I like this list so much. People here are quite > knowledgeable, and it seems quite patient. > The most knowledgeable and least rude

Re: Mozilla and Flash

2007-04-03 Thread Wackojacko
Dave Walker wrote: Running Mozilla/5.0 1.7.8-1sarge10(current stable release). I am curious whether it is possible to get some version of Flash to work? --- Here is what I did t

Re: new kernel problem

2007-04-03 Thread David Baron
On Tuesday 03 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The only reason I need a new kernel is because when I compile modules > and try to install them it says: > FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper > (/lib/modules/2.6.18-4-amd64/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module > format. Can you compile tis modul

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Michael Pobega wrote: >> It would surely cut down on the number of RTFM and STFW responses, which >> I have to say don't appear as often as I expected they would. >> > > Actually, I have yet to see anyone on the list tell anyone to RTFM and > STFW. I see that more or less on IRC (Because it's so f

Re: Bad cups printing after upgrade from sarge to etch

2007-04-03 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 14:43:21 -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > Hi. > > I had a sarge system running as a print server. After upgrading it to > etch, I recreated the cups config files (the old ones didn't work) and > the printers. > > The strange thing is... I have an Epson Stylus Color 850,

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 12:17 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > On closer inspection, I found that my panacea.dat inside > ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/randomnumber.default is corrupted. Is there any way > to reconstruct this file based on the emails that I have? My emails seem to > be intact though.

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-03 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:12:32PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > > > [Etch ships with an old glibc, and is getting bad reviews > > > because of it. This is holding x86 users back, when they could > > > be running Ubuntu or anot

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-03 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 17:45 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Greg, >> >> I am very interested in the GPLv3. >> >> This tirade of yours, I would like to hear so if you'd like to voice >> your opinion, I'm asking. If you think it's not ap

Re: how to read debian-user as newsgroup using Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 19:08 +0100, michael wrote: > then when I click OK (having set my SMTP etc) it sits there > indefinitely saying "loading" and doesn't produce a lists of newsgroups I was bitten by this too, you actually need to select Folder → Subscriptions (or the equivalent in your version

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