Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-03-06 16:31:45, schrieb Al Eridani: government was publicly shamed when it announced the niggardly sum it had decided to donate and it had to quickly make it much larger to deflect ridicule. It is a shame for the USA! It is not. We just don't do things throu

felicitation

2007-03-13 Thread audre crep
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Re: Non-free software in the kernel (in the main section!)?

2007-03-13 Thread Clive Menzies
On (13/03/07 17:17), Michelle Konzack wrote: > Who use 2.6.8 today? -- > It is outdate since years and nobody care realy about it. Well it's still the standard kernel in sarge.. and my servers are running it. Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNS

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-03-08 16:22:20, schrieb Mitja Podreka: Also everybody in the US would be speaking German in that case. But I guess this could not happen. The WW2 would for sure last longer if there were no US help, but the end result would be the same But do you know, that t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: The USA create only bullshit! Ethnocentric racism. You are close to being plonked! Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McCarty
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-02-25 15:49:20, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: The US is the biggest energy market in the world, though China is The USA are consuming over 40% of the worlds petrol resources and it is WHY THEY TRY TO STEAL THE PETROL FROM IRAK AND IRAN. FOAD Try posting on-to

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/13/07 01:16, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] >> Since you know so much about PDF files, let me ask you another >> question. Does PDF have DRM capabilities built in? > > They can be password encrypted. Don't know about anything else. Arguably the worst feature, however, may be

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike McCarty wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > > [snip] >> >> Noone is forcing you to use pdf files >> >> I disagree about it being forced on us. Many documents on the web are >> PDF format. Most hardware comes without manuals and the documents are >> p

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 12:53, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > >> All of those should work, with (depending on the card/chip) the >> possible exception of sound. >> >> If you can't make Debian work, install Ubuntu. That's what it's for. >>

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 12:59, Mike McCarty wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > [snip] > >> FYI, *any* filesystem has the potential to lose data on a sudden power >> outage. > > Umm, no. I suppose you haven't worked in telecomm. I've supported > file systems

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Martin Marcher
Am 13.03.2007 um 19:11 schrieb Mike McCarty: Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2007-03-08 16:22:20, schrieb Mitja Podreka: Also everybody in the US would be speaking German in that case. But I guess this could not happen. The WW2 would for sure last longer if there were no US help, but the end res

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 10:33 -0500, Tarek Soliman wrote: > > Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI > > stuff. > > > > Tell that to our admins who run redhat and suse. Want to disable these > guys? Remove some X libraries. (The one guy who uses CLI uses telnet) > > Ye

Repartitioning, difficult and easy.

2007-03-13 Thread David Baron
Since some of my linux partitions were getting full up, I had to change things around. The linux drive is no longer editable with parted, et al, because of "overlapping cylinder boundaries" which somehow got in there (this was all legal-steven when I set it up). I had loads of room on my windows

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:39:09PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike McCarty wrote: > > Joe Hart wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> > >> Noone is forcing you to use pdf files > >> > >> I disagree about it being forced on us. Many documents on the web ar

Re: Non-free software in the kernel (in the main section!)?

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:17:34 +0100 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2007-03-09 17:46:54, schrieb Trosinenko Anatoly: > > There is a driver MTD -> NFTL in the kernel-source-2.6.8 > > (2.6.8-16sarge1). > > Is it free software??? (See description in "make menuconfig".) There is

Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out one minor issue with inetd, apg-get reports e

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400 Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I > google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you the > option to view it as HTML. The converted version is not always pretty

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread judd
On 9 Mar, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 03:33:08PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> The Brits were worried until we told them that "the intelligence >> will be fixed around the policy", remember. And the reports which >> congress saw (both parties), were the "fixe

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 14:41, Martin Marcher wrote: > > Am 13.03.2007 um 19:11 schrieb Mike McCarty: > >> Michelle Konzack wrote: >>> Am 2007-03-08 16:22:20, schrieb Mitja Podreka: Also everybody in the US would be speaking German in that case. But I

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jim Hyslop wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor is

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tarek Soliman wrote: > "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on > a server?" OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct answer "none" ? > "What are four lowercase letters that are not legal

Re: Eclipse crash

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:19:52PM +0100, Christian Ribeaud wrote: > I am desperately trying to get Eclipse 3.2 working on my laptop. I > upgrated java to JDK1.6 but it did not change anything. Crashes are not > predicable and could happen at anytime. Starting Eclipse is not a > problem. Buf, a

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue wit

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:39:42 -0400 Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > "What are four lowercase letters that are not legal flag arguments to > > the Berkeley UNIX version of 'ls'?" > Four letters... hmmm... do they spell a naughty word? :-) e, j, y, and z (for FSF / GNU ls)? Just ba

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread John Schmidt
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 14:19, Jim Hyslop wrote: > OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue with inetd, apg-ge

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> > > > U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? > > > > Yes. Isn't Debian nice? If you want to be brave and do it again and > run Sid. > > Joe > An even nicer thing is that you can run sid in a chroot and "try before you upgrade" if you have enough space on a partition.

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Jim Hyslop wrote: >>U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? >> > > Yes. That's it. It is amazing, Isn't it? Wow. Almost as easy as installing a printer driver on my Mac - I opened the printer utility,

Re: ACL support via NFS

2007-03-13 Thread Marco De Vitis
On 13/03/2007 18:00, Michelle Konzack wrote: Do you have tried to backport the ORIGINAL Debian Source 2.6.9-2 to Sarge? -- I have tried it and it works. No I didn't. Thanks for the suggestion but in the meantime I have copied what I needed with plain cp over the default NFS and then copied o

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > Yes. Isn't Debian nice? If you want to be brave and do it again and > run Sid. Hmmm tempting, but I'm afraid if I do that I'll be totally spoiled and never want to touch my work PC again (you know, the one that gives me the mon

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> Tarek Soliman wrote: > > "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on > > a server?" > > OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct > answer "none" ? > I was gonna say "Tell that to Redhat and ORACLE UNBREAKABLE LINUX" but I realized I d

Re: Bug in acroread?

2007-03-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:12:39 -0400 > Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> For documents on the web I have this inelegant and heinous trick: I >> google for them. If a doc is in PDF format, Google will give you t

ANNOUNCE: truecrypt-installer -- utilities to get Truecrypt installed easily

2007-03-13 Thread Jari Aalto
Truecrypt version : 4.2a OS compatibility: tested in Ubuntu Feisty / Debian Etch (unstable) Kernel compatibility: tested in 2.6.18 ; max is 2.6.19 HOW TO USE Download and install the *.deb, read manual page: # man truecrypt-dpkg and run: # truecrypt-dpkg --auto

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread David A. Parker
Tarek Soliman wrote: Tarek Soliman wrote: "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on a server?" OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct answer "none" ? I was gonna say "Tell that to Redhat and ORACLE UNBREAKABLE LINUX" but I real

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 16:09, Tarek Soliman wrote: >> Tarek Soliman wrote: >>> "What is the best desktop-environment and/or window-manager to be put on >>> a server?" >> OK, my newbie answer: That's a trick question, right? Isn't the correct >> answer "none" ? >>

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread John Hasler
Jim Hyslop writes: > I finally figured out that it was because the openbsd-inetd process > wasn't being stopped before being restarted. So, I manually stopped > openbsd-inetd, ran `dpkg --configure openbsd-inetd` and now everything's > happy. Did you file a bug report? -- John Hasler -- To UNS

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread Nigel Henry
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 03:52, A. F. Cano wrote: > I don't know what else to try. I have tested the following in > /etc/modules.conf: > > alias snd-cs46xx off > blacklist snd-cs46xx > install snd-cs46xx /bin/true (found this on a web site) > > in /etc/discover.conf-2.6 and /etc/discover.d/alsa-ba

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 13 March 2007 16:48, Jim Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > U... is that it?!? Is it really that simple to upgrade? Yes. No jest, you really did just upgrade from one distribution of Debian to another. When Etch is "relea

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jim Hyslop wrote: > >> BTW, What is the minor issue that you had with inetd? In an ideal world, >> even that small issue should not occur... > > OK, now that you asked I dredged up the command history to get details > :-) It was openbsd-inetd that was failing. I finally figured out that it > was

Possible bug in 'sort -m'

2007-03-13 Thread Bob McGowan
I ran into this as a result of working with the SQL UNION operator and trying to then confirm what it did/does by using 'uniq' and 'sort'. So,for background, I first did: select count(from_number) from cross_reference and select count(to_number) from cross_reference and got 84919 in both

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Tarek Soliman
> > So I ask: Is debian the only distro that sows the seed of CLI? I'm > > talking about having a "server" type computer, not a desktop. > > Slackware. > Really? A slackware server in a corporate environment? Interesting -- Tarek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Mar 13 17:08 -0500]: > With a desktop system, every few years there seems to be a reason to > reinstall, so far mostly due to buying new laptops, disks, and/or the > incompetence of hardware service people who "help" me by putting > Windows XP back on th

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:59:18AM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > [snip] > > >FYI, *any* filesystem has the potential to lose data on a sudden power > >outage. > > Umm, no. I suppose you haven't worked in telecomm. I've supported > file systems which never, ever, lost

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:07:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > OpenVMS used to be more popular with geeks than Unix was. But > businesses and Universities decided that it was worth it to trade 2 > slow-but-reliable VAXen for 10 fast-but-flaky Suns. > Hmmm. Then they went from 10 fast-but-flak

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 03:43:03PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > WTF, I see Windows mentality has become the norm. > > and RIP TelnetD (IOW the telnet Daemon) right out of the machine. > OpenSSH (as done by OpenBSD devs) is what should be defacto standard. > I wish it could really be that way e

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Atis
On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more confident I will be. Please also post tricky an

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:52:31 -0400 "A. F. Cano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know what else to try. I have tested the following in > /etc/modules.conf: > > alias snd-cs46xx off > blacklist snd-cs46xx > install snd-cs46xx /bin/true (found this on a web site) > > in /etc/discover.conf

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Pete
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: > On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about > >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can > >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answer

Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Marco De Vitis
Hi, this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) Let's say I'm writing a script like this: #! /bin/bash SUBJECT="This is a test mail" WARNMSG="An error occurred" WARNCM

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:01:14PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > ... > > My fix on FC2 was to add a few lines in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, as below. I had thought about doing something like that, but was not sure at what point in the boot process the incorrect driver was being loaded, and when anything a

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 09:59:44AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > "A. F. Cano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is on an Etch system (recently upgraded from Sarge), kernel > > 2.6.18 from the deb source package available and compiled locally. > > If you compile your own kernel why don't you

Re: Blacklisted module still loads!

2007-03-13 Thread A. F. Cano
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:24:32PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > ... > udev manages non-removable devices too. Moreover, it consults > blacklist entries in the directory /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/. Try > placing a file in that directory containing the name of the module you > wish to blacklist. Ah!

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Bob
Tarek Soliman wrote: Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more confident I will be. Please also post tricky and troubleshooting questio

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 08:51:17AM +0800, Bob wrote: > > If choice is our greatest asset (which it is) it's also the greatest > hindrance to GNU/Linux adoption on the corporate desktop. > > Can you see an elegant way out of this paradox? > I can see where choice can be perceived as a hinrance t

Re: Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Cédric Lucantis
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 01:04, Marco De Vitis a écrit : > Hi, > this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) > > Let's say I'm writing a script like this: > > #! /bin/bash > > > > SUBJECT="This is a test mail" > > WARNMSG="An error occurred" > > WARNCMD="mail -s \"${SUBJ

Re: Using quotes in bash script parameters

2007-03-13 Thread Cédric Lucantis
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 02:07, Cédric Lucantis a écrit : > Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 01:04, Marco De Vitis a écrit : > > Hi, > > this is not strictly Debian-related, but I'm doing it on Etch, so... :) > > > > Let's say I'm writing a script like this: > > > #! /bin/bash > > > > > > SUBJECT="This is

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: > On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about > >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can > >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answer

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 07:40:03PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Hmmm. Then they went from 10 fast-but-flaky Suns to 100 > slow-and-disease-ridden generic PCs with Windows. I'd hate to think > what is coming next :-) > Vista. Word Processing online via Google. Disposable printers in a ho

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:42:20 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:05:52 -0600, Ron wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> > >> On 02/27/07 09:52, [EMA

Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Boyce
So ... I just downloaded a Debian Sarge CD image, checked the MD5 sum was okay, and then just for completeness figured I'd check the GPG signature on the MD5 sums file ... GPG told me I needed DSA key id 88C7C1F7 to verify the signature ... http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify tells me I can get

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:49:14 -0500, Roberto wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:57:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..uhuh. The Sissy Boy Traitor stole one mans slot, and then ran > > AWOL. A military man with enough balls to get the job done, and > > enough

"Failed!" message received when EXT3 filesystem mounted

2007-03-13 Thread Ken Heard
I have Etch installed on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop. There are five hda partitions which have the EXT3 file system mounted thereon. Hda1 is a physical partition where /boot is mounted. The other four, hda5 through hda8, are logical partitions where / (root), /usr, /tmp and /home are mounted

daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Marty Landman
I've got NTP running with the following conf file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/ntp.conf server otherntp.server.org# A stratum 1 server at server.org server ntp.research.gov # A stratum 2 server at research.gov restrict 127.0.0.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Only problem is that I am gettin

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Did you file a bug report? Ah, no, it never occurred to me. I did have some problems earlier with aptitude (see my thread about a month or so ago entitled "AAARGH! I mean Aptitude problems" :-) so I'm not entirely sure user error d

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 18:38, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:59:18AM -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> [snip] >> [snip] >> A good FS should not suffer corruption regardless of what the >> hardware does, if we're

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > May be you were hit with > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386469 Yep, that's the one. Thanks for the info. - -- Jim Hyslop Dreampossible: Better software. Simply. http://www.dreampossible.ca

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 19:09, Pete wrote: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:43:35AM +0200, Atis wrote: >> On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about >>> Debian? May be with short answers but th

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 20:57, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:42:20 -0600, Ron wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >>> mills, is how they kill birds, especially in overcast weather. >>> Mode

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 21:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:49:14 -0500, Roberto wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 08:57:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] >>> >> I'm not sure exactly what you are saying her

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Mark Grieveson
> OK, so I installed Sarge on my machine. The other day, I decided to > upgrade to Etch. I modified the sources file, changing "stable" to > "etch", and ran `apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade`. After sorting out > one minor issue with inetd, apg-get reports everything's OK, and the > /etc/debian_v

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Marc Shapiro
Marty Landman wrote: I've got NTP running with the following conf file: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/ntp.conf server otherntp.server.org# A stratum 1 server at server.org server ntp.research.gov # A stratum 2 server at research.gov restrict 127.0.0.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Only probl

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:20:17PM -0400, Marty Landman wrote: > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US went > into effect over the weekend. I have my timezone set to EST. EST, Eastern Standard Time, s

Re: "Failed!" message received when EXT3 filesystem mounted

2007-03-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 09:34:47AM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: > I have Etch installed on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop. There are five > hda partitions which have the EXT3 file system mounted thereon. Hda1 is > a physical partition where /boot is mounted. The other four, hda5 > through hda8, are lo

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 10:20:17PM -0400, Marty Landman wrote: > I've got NTP running with the following conf file: > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US went > into effect over the weekend. I have

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Marc Shapiro
Nate Bargmann wrote: * Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Mar 13 17:08 -0500]: With a desktop system, every few years there seems to be a reason to reinstall, so far mostly due to buying new laptops, disks, and/or the incompetence of hardware service people who "help" me by putting Win

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/13/07 12:53, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> All of those should work, with (depending on the card/chip) the >>> possible

Re: Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Stephen Cormier
On March 13, 2007 11:04:44 pm Nick Boyce wrote: > Do I *really* need to add such a large keyring to my own keyring, just > to verify the dang GPG signature on a CD image ? Have you tried/heard of the --keyring option when using gpg? That way you only need to specify the file containing the key no

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Am 2007-02-25 15:49:20, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: >>> The US is the biggest energy market in the world, though China is >> >> The US

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:36:36 -0600, Ron wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/04/07 20:25, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > .._amen_ to that, look at W and the US. ;o) > > Bashing W at every turn makes you look *really* juvenile. ..what???

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: >> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >> stuff. >> > > Tell that to our admins who run redhat and suse. Want to disable these > guys? Remove some X libraries. (The one guy who u

Re: daylight savings time

2007-03-13 Thread John Hasler
Marty Landman writes: > I've got NTP running... NTP has nothing to do with DST. The servers send UTC. It is up to the clients to deal with their time zones. > Only problem is that I am getting the time as an hour earlier than it > really is, since the new daylight savings time here in the US we

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 03:43:03PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >> >> WTF, I see Windows mentality has become the norm. >> >> and RIP TelnetD (IOW the telnet Daemon) right out of the machine. >> OpenSSH (a

Re: Is that all there is to it??

2007-03-13 Thread Marty
Marc Shapiro wrote: I have been running Debian since Bo, which was about eight, or nine years ago IIRC. I have been through several system upgrades and hard disc changes, but I just move the HD to the new system, or copy it to a new HD and install that. I've been doing that that since Slink

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:07:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> OpenVMS used to be more popular with geeks than Unix was. But >> businesses and Universities decided that it was worth it to trade 2 >>

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:48:20 -0500, Greg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Unless you've been in the Marine Corps, you'll never understand. > > Case in point I have 2 birthdays per year, March 14th ..hey, happy birthday! ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 10:33 -0500, Tarek Soliman wrote: >> > Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >> > stuff. >> > >> >> Tell that to our admins who run redhat and suse. Want to

Re: How to reject spam with embedded graphics

2007-03-13 Thread Paul Johnson
Michelle Konzack wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > Am 2007-03-07 11:19:30, schrieb Chris Lale: >> There was some discussion on the list a while ago about how to deal with >> spam that has text as graphics embedded in it. There was disagreement >> about wheth

xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV ). My laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor have also

Re: Checking GPG Signatures - Debian Keyring is Huge !

2007-03-13 Thread Nick Boyce
Stephen Cormier wrote: > On March 13, 2007 11:04:44 pm Nick Boyce wrote: >> Do I *really* need to add such a large keyring to my own keyring, just >> to verify the dang GPG signature on a CD image ? > > Have you tried/heard of the --keyring option when using gpg? That way you > only > need to sp

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, > and it might go statewide by the end of the session. Gasoline sales are > banned here for the better. Probably because to produce 1 gallon of bio you need to use 1 gallon of gasoline. It's com

Re: user defined mime types, source highlighting

2007-03-13 Thread Zoho Vignochi
> "gedit" support already Syntax Highlighting of Sourcecode and if the > syntax for those "octave" files is currently not supported, create a > new syntax file and put it into your config directory. Yes, that's true but what I want is for gedit to automagically recognizes the source file as an oct

xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV ). My laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor have also

Re: xorg.conf & multiple screen

2007-03-13 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:17:17AM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: > Hello > > I have a laptop with only VGA output (not s-video output), so in order to > connect my laptop to the LCD-TV I made a VGA to TV converter (VGA to TV). My > laptop have resolution of 1024x768, my external LCD monitor ha

Re: How to reject spam with embedded graphics

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 19:02 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > Am 2007-03-07 11:19:30, schrieb Chris Lale: > >> There was some discussion on the list a while ago about how to deal with > >> spam that has tex

emacs21 held hostage to installing other packages

2007-03-13 Thread Charles Blair
I recently installed the testing (etch) incarnation of debian, and have added emacs (emacs21). I would like to add gnumeric and a number of other packages, but aptitude warns me that, to do so, I have to downgrade some things (libc6 is one), and that this will delete emacs21. -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 20:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, > > and it might go statewide by the end of the session. Gasoline sales are > > banned here for the better. > > Probably because to produc

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 04:33 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:48:20 -0500, Greg wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Unless you've been in the Marine Corps, you'll never understand. > > > > Case in point I have 2 birthdays per year, March 14th > > ..hey, happy birthd

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 23:33, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 20:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Why not just go bioethanol in a larger percentage year round? Portland is, >>> and it might go statewide by the end of the session

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/07 20:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > >>> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI >>> stuff. >>> >> Tell that to our admins who ru

Re: Best File System for partitions over 600GB

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 23:48 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/13/07 20:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Tarek Soliman wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > > to gmane.linux.debian.user: > > > >>> Now as far as video, who cares about that... servers don't need GUI > >>> stuff. > >>> > >> Tell th

Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Mike McClain
On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about >Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can >get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more >confident I will be. > >Please also post trick

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