Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:21, ScruLoose wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:49:28PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 04:51, csj wrote: > > > > > > > > I have never owned a gun and I haven't shot anyone

Re: LILO help please

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:41:55 -0500, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I tried to search for the answer in the list archive, but I was unable > to find it :( ..sounds weird, try news if you used the mail list and vice versa. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Re

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread cr
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:52, Tom wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:51:41PM +0800, csj wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, > > > > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > > >

Re: tulip

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:37:04 -0600, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > paul valley wrote: > > Hi all: > > > > I will be leaving M$ :-[ behind soon and installing debian :-) :-) > > :-) however theres a problem i need to address on two fronts First > > i have

How to Install new Font(s) with Defoma

2003-11-16 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
Hi, How to install some new fonts with Defoma? I pick some fonts from windowz and wants it to be installed. I've put the new fonts under /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/fonts (I create folder 'fonts') and it seems I already can use the fonts for my dektop setting. Unfortunetly, I can't use it for m

Re: How to use ssh tunnel to reach a machine on a private network?

2003-11-16 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 01:30, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Oliver Elphick wrote: ... > > What I am trying to do is to use ssh tunnelling to go direct to one of > > the machines on the remote private network, because I need to be able to > > run X programs from that machine on my own display. ... > I do

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread ScruLoose
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:42:57PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:21:55AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > Great theory. Shame it's such a dismal failure in practice. > > People have been getting "disappeared" lately in The States. Somebody > > whispers "terrorist" and you get the mid

Re: gagging - dual-boot - Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:48:58 -0800 (PST), Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > "80% - 90%" of the extra charge will be for some flavor of windoze > > > > > > if people are buying 20-30 systems at a time with W

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:21:00 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 23:44, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:52:00 -0800, > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > The whole reaso

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:31:36AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: [a bunch of horseshit] The terrorists are trying to get into the US via Canada. The terrorists are often students living abroad in Germany. It would be racist if I said "every muslim in Europe is a terrorist". It is not racist to note t

Re: OT: Linux 2.6.0-test9 Running for 24 hours!

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:29:45 -0800 (PST), Loren M Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Also, when I load the mouse driver after X has > started,(as it isn't auto-loading for some reason), the mouse jumps > around for a few seconds before I can use it. Also, now when

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread ScruLoose
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:02:43AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:21, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 02:49:28PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > > The reason the 2nd is there is so that King xyz or our own goverment will > > > never take our freedom. With a

Re: Software Patents

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:05:01 -0500, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:57:32PM -0800, Loren M Lang wrote: > > > I'm preparing a pursuasive speech against software patents for my > > class and I'm looking for information on patents th

Re: How to use ssh tunnel to reach a machine on a private network?

2003-11-16 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Oliver Elphick wrote: On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 01:30, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Oliver Elphick wrote: ... What I am trying to do is to use ssh tunnelling to go direct to one of the machines on the remote private network, because I need to be able to run X programs from that machine on my own display.

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:52:47 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 00:18, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:49:50 -0600, > > "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > >

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread Otto Wyss
> > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > > alternatives. > > Perhaps this won't work for you, but I did a minimal installation of > Woody and then did apt-get dist-upgrade (or somesuch) to bring it u

Re: gagging - dual-boot - yup - Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-16 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya arnt On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > havent had any problem with dual boots ... it's always worked for me, > > boot one or the other ... ( never running both at the same time ) > > - dual boots are good ... good way to get "extra charges" > > tacked onto their (multipl

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread ScruLoose
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:47:03PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:31:36AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > [a bunch of horseshit] Hehe! Now, that's funny. I bring you references from your own country's press, reporting that your government is detaining people indefinitely, without chargi

Re: Installation Help: SATA Drive

2003-11-16 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Saturday 15 November 2003 22:33, Erik Steffl wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 17:15, Justin Burke wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a > > SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both > > installation methods ha

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-16 Thread Stephen Cormier
On November 14, 2003 04:39 pm, Joan Tur wrote: > Hallo! > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... > do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > Thanks ;) > - -- > Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain If you do not mind non Debian packages then you can get it with this

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:42:13AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: [more horseshit] I figured you'd say something like that. How do you think Mohammad Attah looked/acted before 911? How do you think the guys who showed up to get flying lessons but didn't want to looked/acted? Don't you think that peo

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Sunday 16 November 2003 00:24, Jesse Meyer wrote: > Debian-stable (the branch you want to be using for servers) tends to > be several months to a year behind the bleeding edge.  This bothers > some people.  For a server, I'd rather go with a tested solution then > the bleeding edge, but others d

Nicer fonts in gnome than in KDE?

2003-11-16 Thread Mariano Kamp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I noticed since a couple of releases that the fonts used in gnome are much more readable (to me) than the ones installed by default with kde. Any idea, why that is? Can I use the gnome fonts with kde? Cheers, Mariano - -- Get public key fr

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-16 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge 16 Novembre 2003 09:56, en Stephen Cormier va escriure: > On November 14, 2003 04:39 pm, Joan Tur wrote: > > Hallo! > > > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... > > do you know when is it going to be in SID ?

how to show a .debs configure command line?

2003-11-16 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Is there an easy way to show what configure options were used when a .deb binary was built, are build logs archived, eg? That is, easier than apt-get --download source and the parse debian/rules? Case at hand: the GRUB info doc refers to --enable-preset-menu=FILE, and I wonder if this option was

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 November 2003 10:40, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > The funny thing is that many of these are security related; I mean, what > a perfect way to trojan a bunch of newbie's machines: The newbie hears > on debian-user that he must update some of t

Re: gagging - dual-boot - yup - Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:22:41 -0800 (PST), Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > hi ya arnt > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > havent had any problem with dual boots ... it's always worked for > > > me, boot one or the other ... ( never runni

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 01:22:54 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 03:42:13AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > [more horseshit] > > I figured you'd say something like that. > > How do you think Mohammad Attah looked/acted before 911? How do yo

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:54, John L. Fjellstad wrote: > The newbie wouldn't pick it from the crackers site, because the > newbie would just change his sources.list file to point at testing or > unstable. Not if he wants to use stable. snort in unstable depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2-1), so upgra

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:24:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..ofcourse, the _next_ bunch will have to learn takeoff and landings, > simply to avoid suspicion. And, they will look just like you, redneck. > To avoid suspicion. Your call. ;-) Why is it socially acceptable to call me a redneck

Re: LILO help please

2003-11-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 16 November 2003 01:41, stan wrote: > I'm trying to recover from a hard drive failure on my main workstation. > > I posted to this list the other day, and recieved some very helpful > replies, which I seem to have deleted, by mistak :-( > > In any cas, I've replaced the disk, partioned it

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:21:12 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:24:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..ofcourse, the _next_ bunch will have to learn takeoff and > > landings, simply to avoid suspicion. And, they will look just lik

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-16 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge 16 Novembre 2003 09:56, en Stephen Cormier va escriure: > If you do not mind non Debian packages then you can get it with this > line in your sources list. Bad luck. K3bsetup command has dissappeared, I've tryed to create a data DVD and..

Re: devfs

2003-11-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:48:29AM -0500, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I was doing an installation using whatever disks I can find (stable, > tesitng-installer) and I ran into a problem of something that I recall > once long ago. > > I thought devfs was going to be mostly removed fro

script for creating multipage tiffs

2003-11-16 Thread Andreas von Heydwolff
Dear listmembers, my very first probably quite dirty and limited bash script hack is available at http://members.chello.at/hrdisk/tifscanjoin.tar It had kept me bugging that the programmers of the GUI scanning programs like quiteinsane or kooka did not have multipage tiff creation implemented

Re: how to show a .debs configure command line?

2003-11-16 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Jan! On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Is there an easy way to show what configure options were used when a .deb binary was built, are build logs archived, eg? That is, easier than apt-get --download source and the parse debian/rules? Case at hand: the GRUB

Re: Newbie packages question

2003-11-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:20:21AM -0800, Vanh Phom said > Hi All, > I'm trying to compile the new Kdevekop3 to be used as dev GUI. But I run > head on to the following problems. Here the output from configure: [snippage] > checking for Qt... libraries /usr/share/qt3/lib, headers > /usr/share/qt3

Debian woody or sarge?

2003-11-16 Thread Philip Ross
I am looking to migrate a few Red Hat boxes to Debian in the next month or two and am currently wondering whether to install woody or sarge. I've seen posts that suggest sarge will become the stable distribution soon (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-20 0308

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 09:07:41AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > I just want to remind you that locales is brocken in woody that it isn't > possible to install it. This is a 2-years old bug (IMO critical) which > never got solved even if I mentioned numerous times. Eh? It works for me and AFAIK for ev

Re: nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1

2003-11-16 Thread R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar
Dear Folks, Thank you very much for the prompt response. Unfortunately, I tried what was suggested but the X-server failed to fire up. Jerome R. Acks wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:19:33AM +0800, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: You need to download nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.4496-2.1 and co

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-16 Thread ben
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:23:26 -0800 Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Norman Podhoretz said only ex-communists can talk intelligently about > anti-communism. > i'm trying to imagine a bunch of ex-capitalists down in cuba intelligentlly discussing anti-capitalism. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread ben
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:47:03 -0800 Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:31:36AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > [a bunch of horseshit] > > The terrorists are trying to get into the US via Canada. > The terrorists are often students living abroad in Germany. > > It would be racis

splitting mbox files

2003-11-16 Thread Rus Foster
Hi, Is there a program on debian that would let me split an mbox file into a series of single files each containing an email? I've looked and found mboxgrep but not sure if there is something else that would be better thanks Rus -- w: http://www.jvds.com | Dedicated FreeBSD,Debian and RedHat

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Tom Ballard
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:21:12 -0800, > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:24:05PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..ofcourse, the _next_ bunch will have to learn takeoff

Re: splitting mbox files

2003-11-16 Thread ben
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 12:44:02 + (GMT) Rus Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Is there a program on debian that would let me split an mbox file > into a > series of single files each containing an email? I've looked and found > mboxgrep but not sure if there is something else that would

Re: nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1

2003-11-16 Thread Andrew Schulman
> You need to download  nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.4496-2.1 and compile > it. After you compile it, install it along with nvidia-glx 1.0.4496-2.1 > and nvidia-kernel-common 1.0.4496-3. I have a description of how to do this at http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/nvidia-2.6-Debian/index.html. -- To re

Re: Woody kernel upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread James Hosken
That's just what I needed, thanks. I have followed your instructions and the kernel has installed OK and booted OK. But I have lost the network. I ran modconf and added the network drivers. But I don't know how to reconfigure the network for DHCP? Please can some one enlighten me. Regards James

System crash

2003-11-16 Thread Rafael Arco Arredondo
Hi, I have a problem with Sid. When system boots up, the disk starts reading and/or writing after a few minutes. This happens during a quite long time (the led of the disk is on all this time). After this time, no system device responds. I can only push reset button and restart the system (after t

Problems starting KDE, X

2003-11-16 Thread navaja
hi, I recently tried installling xlibs/experimental from opendoorsoftware.com It didnt work, particularly, the virtual teminals stopped working and just showed up flickering garbage. Then I tried to apt-get the old version of xlibs and all the kde stuff. (I had removed the opendoorsoftware and

Re: inetd vs. inetutils-inetd

2003-11-16 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 at 06:33 GMT, Oliver Elphick penned: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 22:12, Monique Y. Herman wrote: ... >> So far so good. I poked through /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list, and no >> one there claims to know anything about /usr/sbin/inetd, which is the >> app called by /etc/init.d/inetd. I'

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
Folks, could you please take this off-topic thread somewhere else, perhaps to private e-mail? Let's get back to Debian. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: inetd vs. inetutils-inetd

2003-11-16 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 at 06:52 GMT, Michael D Schleif penned: > ># dpkg -S /usr/sbin/inetd I remembered that one of the dpkg or apt tools would do this for me, but naturally went poking around in the wrong man pages. Mea culpa =/ -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 04:44:48 -0800, Tom Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:21:12 -0800, > > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On

Re: LILO help please

2003-11-16 Thread stan
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:02:10AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: > > I'm trying to recover from a hard drive failure on my main workstation. > > > > I posted to this list the other day, and recieved some very helpful > > replies, which I seem to have delet

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-16 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:49:26 -0500 TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is the last version of Xfree in sid supporting ati radeon 9800? Last I > had checked it was not yet, so I have fireglx from the ati site > running, which of course has created a lot of conflicts everytime that > I run an update. A

Help getting wireless card working

2003-11-16 Thread stan
Can some kind soul point me to some docs on getting my new wireeless card working under Debina? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: System crash

2003-11-16 Thread Kent West
Rafael Arco Arredondo wrote: Hi, I have a problem with Sid. When system boots up, the disk starts reading and/or writing after a few minutes. This happens during a quite long time (the led of the disk is on all this time). After this time, no system device responds. I can only push reset button an

Re: mutt, key bindings and debian mailing lists

2003-11-16 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 at 06:49 GMT, ScruLoose penned: > > I need to start keeping a list of little tweaks I'm making all over > the system, so I'll be able to roll them out on later installs... > I keep various config files in cvs. Makes it really easy to sync up accounts on multiple systems. Of

Re: Maple9 and LD_ASSUME_KERNEL

2003-11-16 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Original Message Subject: Re: Maple9 and LD_ASSUME_KERNEL Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:37:18 +0200 From: Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: UOC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello, I have installe

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-16 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 November 2003 02:13, Michael D Schleif wrote: > In this case, what is the Debian way to run an absolutely minimum MTA, > the smallest possible footprint, least likely setup to disrupt apt-get'd > applications, and as secure as possible.

Building XFree 4.3

2003-11-16 Thread . .
Hi everyone I'm tring to build Xfree 4.3 on my debian system because I need a patch to the siliconmotion driver that has only been committed in 4.3.99. I'm trying two separate paths, and I'm stuck in either. First I'm trying to build a deb binary package from xfree86_4.3.0-0pre1v4 source packag

Re: Building XFree 4.3

2003-11-16 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:23:11PM +, . . wrote: > Hi everyone I'm tring to build Xfree 4.3 on my debian system because I need > a patch to the siliconmotion driver that has only been committed in 4.3.99. > > I'm trying two separate paths, and I'm stuck in either. If you send us a diff, we c

Re: System crash

2003-11-16 Thread Rafael Arco Arredondo
El dom, 16-11-2003 a las 14:33, Rafael Arco Arredondo escribió: > I can only push reset button and restart the > system (after that, the problem does not happen any more, it appears > only when I boot Sid the first time). El dom, 16-11-2003 a las 15:38, Kent West escribió: > Can you boot off an

Recommend ILS server for gnomemeeting

2003-11-16 Thread David Selby
I am hopeing to use gnomemeeting to contact my realtive in Australia (a computer illiterate!) Before I email him telling him what to do I neet to find a suitable ILS server. Every ILS server I have tried is not "family friendly", Does anyone know of an ILS server that is "Family friendly" ?! I

Problems starting KDE, X

2003-11-16 Thread navaja
hi, I recently tried installling xlibs/experimental from opendoorsoftware.com It didnt work, particularly, the virtual teminals stopped working and just showed up flickering garbage. Then I tried to apt-get the old version of xlibs and all the kde stuff. (I had removed the opendoorsoftware and ot

Re: Debian woody or sarge?

2003-11-16 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 07:04, Philip Ross wrote: > Given Red Hat updates will end at the end of the year, I want to get up and > running with Debian before that. If sarge doesn't become stable until next > year, would it be better to install woody now and upgrade to sarge in a few > months, or inst

network not working

2003-11-16 Thread navaja
hi i just installed unstable on a machine. everything seems fine other than the fact that i cant access http or ping any hosts other than my router. is this perhaps because i have a http proxy installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

LKM Trojan

2003-11-16 Thread Gerard Ceraso
It seems that I have been infected with the LKM trojan. Below is what I received from running chkrootkit. I was wondering is there is a way to find out how I was infected, and more importantly is there a quick and easy way to remove it. Checking `lkm'... You have 4 process hidden for ps comma

apt-preferences: is this right?

2003-11-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi all! Reading man apt_preferences I can *almost* get it, but being a doubter... As a happy user of Backstreet Ruby, the multi-seat Linux solution, I want to avoid that when Debian testing gets X 4.3.0, that its version will be installed. (Unless Debian will have Backstreet Ruby as an option!

Question about set UID (and cdrecord)

2003-11-16 Thread Bill Moseley
I've got an suid shell script and a suid binary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l foo.sh sleep -rwsr-xr-x1 root root 21 2003-11-16 07:38 foo.sh -rwsr-xr-x1 root root12664 2003-11-16 07:38 sleep The script simply runs my local suid sleep binary. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ca

Re: LKM Trojan

2003-11-16 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Sunday 16 November 2003 16:41, Gerard Ceraso wrote: > Checking `lkm'... You have     4 process hidden for ps command > Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed You just upgraded to unstable, eh? :-) I did the same thing a few weeks ago, and was as shocked as you. But I googled the archives fir

Re: Question about set UID (and cdrecord)

2003-11-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 08:02:48AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > Does setting suid on a shell script (or a perl script) have any effect? Set-id scripts in general don't work. Set-id perl scripts work if you have perl-suid installed, but beware; this is unsupported upstream and liable to go away. Se

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-16 Thread Tom Allison
David Palmer. wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 13:01:10 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-

Re: Sociological question about Debian, GNU, and Linux

2003-11-16 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:09:08AM +, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:36:50PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > The recent discussions of Red Hat's change of policy got me thinking > > about the larger issue of what makes the Debian, GNU, and Linux > > communi

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-16 Thread Tom Allison
BruceG wrote: Maybe I'm missing the big point here. I often do. So RHL is no longer available, and support for RHL is going away.There is Project Fedora for home use (and it will probably fit in well with the small office/home office set). All existing training should still apply. The distribution

Re: dvd ripping tools

2003-11-16 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:58:58 -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:34:13AM +0200, Micha Feigin > wrote.. > [...] > I guess this is precisely the point. I need these 30-sec clips > to play out of the box (on Windoze) just like the trailers you > see at moviefone.com or

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-16 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:26:08 -0500, Alec Berryman wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote: > > Otto Wyss wrote: > > > So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > > > root access) > > > > sudo will give you root access in Knoppix > > You can grab a real root prompt

Re: Sociological question about Debian, GNU, and Linux

2003-11-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 01:09:08 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:36:50PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > The recent discussions of Red Hat's change of policy got me thinking > > about the larger issue of what makes the Debian, GNU, and Linux > > communities work? Yes, I have

making /dev entries

2003-11-16 Thread LeVA
Hello! I accidentally deleted my /dev/dsp0 file. Is there any way, to remake that device? I have recompiled my kernel, and run /sbin/MAKEDEV, but no success. Thanks! Daniel -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: ppp slow on home build kernel

2003-11-16 Thread Simon Tod
--- Martijn Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a laptop that has a 56k6 pcmcia modem and > runs debian testing. PPP does work, but when I use > an 2.4.22 kernel that I compiled myself, the > connection is very slow: only 1.5 kbyte/s for a > compressed file. If I use a standard 2.4.22 debi

Re: LKM Trojan

2003-11-16 Thread Richard Kimber
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:10:00 +0100 Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Checking `lkm'... You have     4 process hidden for ps command > > Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed > > You just upgraded to unstable, eh? :-) It happens in testing too. -- Richard Kimber http://www.psr.ke

dpkg error (repost)

2003-11-16 Thread Simon Tod
Hi. I was in the process of purging a package when I accidently killed the process. Now, when I try 'apt-get --purge remove ftape-util' I get the error dpkg: error processing ftape-util (--purge): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.

finding directory of referensed file (through link)

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
I am running a script through a link (ln -s) and I want to find the directory of the actual file and not the link. In the script I want to cd into its directory. Using cd $(dirname $0) changes dir into the link's directory instead of the actual scripts directory. Is there a simple way to do this?

Install Report from a Linux newbie - some comments

2003-11-16 Thread eric brown
Hello, I tough of posting my Linux experience as a complete Linux & Unix newbie that chose Debian to start playing with linux. (out of laziness and pure ignorance - I wanted to do a net install instead of waiting for entire cds iso to download and had no clue that Debian was an "hard distro") Fir

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-16 Thread Henning Moll
On Sunday 16 November 2003 12:47, Joan Tur wrote: > Bad luck. K3bsetup command has dissappeared. Yes, and k3bsetup will not reappaer. Upstream removed it. But there is a new module in kde's control manager... Good luck Henning -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: How to start a user process on boot?

2003-11-16 Thread Anita Lewis
> > > I want to start a p2p program while booting. I tried to write a script=20 > > for /etc/init.d it works but only as root. > > I want the program starting as a user process (for security reasons). > >=20 > > How can root start automatically a process as a user? > > Beside using start-stop-dae

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2003 11:54, John L. Fjellstad wrote: The newbie wouldn't pick it from the crackers site, because the newbie would just change his sources.list file to point at testing or unstable. Not if he wants to use stable. snort in unstable depends on libc6 (>=

Re: LKM Trojan

2003-11-16 Thread Gerard Ceraso
yup I am running unstable. I was going crazy over here. ~gerard On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 11:52, Richard Kimber wrote: > On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:10:00 +0100 > Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Checking `lkm'... You have 4 process hidden for ps command > > > Warning: Possible LKM

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-16 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Arnt Karlsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 00:18 Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]] > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:49:50 -0600, > "Hoyt

TRAMP doesn't work anymore

2003-11-16 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hi list! After my recent upgrade to sid, TRAMP, the Emacs mode to access remote files and stuff like that, doesn't work anymore. I'm using emacs20. I've been using the version in stable earlier, I used to be a bit confused when I set it up, and I had to type my password, but other than that,

Re: Debian woody or sarge?

2003-11-16 Thread David Z Maze
"Philip Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am looking to migrate a few Red Hat boxes to Debian in the next > month or two and am currently wondering whether to install woody or > sarge. If you're new to Debian, I'd strongly suggest starting with the stable distribution (so, in this case, woody

Exim (Woody) smarthost using authenicated ssmtp

2003-11-16 Thread Stephen
Hello: I searched the archives but didn't find anything that solved or helped my situation and yes, I've RTFM, or parts of it. I'm using Rogers Cable HighSpeed, and they require all outbound smtp to be authenticated using SMTP AUTH LOGIN. I can't figure out the syntax to use. I do have fetchmail

Re: Woody kernel upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
James Hosken wrote: > That's just what I needed, thanks. I have followed your > instructions and the kernel has installed OK and booted OK. But I > have lost the network. If worse comes to worse you can boot LinuxOLD to get your network back to be able to download new packages. In particular yo

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Sunday 16 November 2003 18:10, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Do 'apt-get source ' (which always gets you the latest > source). Then 'cd - && dpkg-buildpackage' Yup, that's cool and all, but really, it doesn't answer the question, what is it to gain by having outdated packages in the archive...? C

Exim (Woody) smarthost using authenicated ssmtp

2003-11-16 Thread sda
Hello: I searched the archives but didn't find anything that solved or helped my situation and yes, I've RTFM, or parts of it. I'm using Rogers Cable HighSpeed, and they require all outbound smtp to be authenticated using SMTP AUTH LOGIN. I can't figure out the syntax to use. I do have fetchm

exim config - using multiple smtp servers

2003-11-16 Thread Micha Feigin
Hello, I want to set up exim (or a different MTA if it can do it) to send mail through multiple smtp servers where the choice of the server is based on the from address. Also possibly have the local from address automaticaly replaced to one of the configured ones. To make the setup somewhat cl

making /dev entries

2003-11-16 Thread LeVA
Hello! I accidentally deleted my /dev/dsp0 file. Is there any way, to remake that device? I have recompiled my kernel, and run /sbin/MAKEDEV, but no success. Thanks! Daniel -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
First let me say that Debian makes a great enterprise platform. I am using it for such myself. But actually, I only use it for the base framework. I carefully drive the addition and deletion of packages. Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > Do 'apt-get source ' (which always gets

Re: Debian woody or sarge?

2003-11-16 Thread Bob Proulx
David Z Maze wrote: > Philip Ross writes: > > I am looking to migrate a few Red Hat boxes to Debian in the next > > month or two and am currently wondering whether to install woody or > > sarge. You did not say but are those servers or desktops? Desktop users tend to be brutal. They want the lat

Trouble with exim-tls

2003-11-16 Thread John Schofield
I've been having a lot of trouble with exim-tls, and I'd love some perspective from you folks. First off, I'm trying to get secure POP, secure IMAP, and secure SMTP set up on a Woody box. I'm trying to avoid any solution that requires updating by hand -- I want to continue to use apt-get updat

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