Re: Sound: "no sndstat device", yet there it is: Even More info

1999-10-02 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > > Kent West wrote: > > > > > According to the howto I'm following (sortta - it appears to be out of > > > date, maybe?), I'm supposed to be able to give the command "cat > > > /dev/sndstat" and get a list of info on my sound card. Yet when I try, I > > > get

How do I switch between JDK versions?

1999-10-02 Thread Joe Emenaker
Probably a FAQ... but, here goes I've noticed that the JDK 1.1 description claims that it can co-exist with the older JDK 1.0. However, I've not been able to figure out how to make this work. Whichever one gets installed last seems to change the /etc/alternatives to it's liking and that's what

How do I switch between JDK versions?

1999-10-02 Thread Joe Emenaker
Probably a FAQ... but, here goes I've noticed that the JDK 1.1 description claims that it can co-exist with the older JDK 1.0. However, I've not been able to figure out how to make this work. Whichever one gets installed last seems to change the /etc/alternatives to it's liking and that's what

Re: How do I switch between JDK versions?

1999-10-02 Thread Joe Emenaker
Sorry about the duplicate... I'm still trying to figure out why Outlook Express does that sometimes

Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread John Gay
First, IBM, HP, Sun etc . . . join in supporting Linux, Then Apple starts releasing portions of Mac OS, and now . . . SUN MICROSYSTEMS, TO PARALLEL SUCCESS OF LINUX, MAKES SOLARIS CODE AVAILABLE Sun plans to open the source code for its Solaris operating system in hopes of replicating the succe

Re: Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 01:07:18AM +0100, John Gay wrote: > > > First, IBM, HP, Sun etc . . . join in supporting Linux, Then Apple starts > releasing portions of Mac OS, and now . . . Sorry, but this is far from fully open source. If you fix bugs, you are required by the license to report the ch

ssh configfile

1999-10-02 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I'm trying to enable X11 forwarding in ssh, by way of the ~/.ssh/options file. As the file didn't previously exist, I created it with the following contents: -- Host * ForwardX11 yes -- [Note: The "Host *" is just for testing purposes, and will be replaced by the loca

Re: Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread Gregory T. Norris
No offence intended to either you or SUN, but I'd hardly call the SCSL "fully open source". Just my opinion, mind... On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 01:07:18AM +0100, John Gay wrote: > > > First, IBM, HP, Sun etc . . . join in supporting Linux, Then Apple starts > releasing portions of Mac OS, and now

Re: ppp refusing connections due to pam

1999-10-02 Thread Lindsay Allen
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:42:54PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I used apt yesterday to upgrade some packages including some libpam > > packages and now an incoming ppp connection fails with entries like this > > in the log: > > > > O

Re: ppp refusing connections due to pam

1999-10-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 08:39:20AM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote: > Hello Ben, > > You are quite correct - as usual. It turns out that my caller simply got > her name or password wrong. Ahem! It would happen on the first call when > I saw "UNIX_pam" in the logs. Sorry to bother you over this.

Re: Upgradeing to 2.2 kernel broke X

1999-10-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re: Upgradeing to 2.2 kernel broke X Date: Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 10:37:33AM +0200 In reply to:peter karlsson Quoting peter karlsson([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I just upgraded to a 2.2 kernel (from 2.0.38), running a virtual framebuffer > > (ATI Mach64), and now my X Windows

Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi Brad; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: ---stuff snipped here-- > Depending on the particular package, recompiling for slink can be as > simple as "apt-get --compile source packagename" (with a new enough > version of apt, of course). The versioned Perl dependancies and such can > be fixed b

Re: wvdial hangs?

1999-10-02 Thread Dave Baker
> > is wvdial "hanging" when the cursor gets a blank line after: " - - > > starting pppd > @ (date/time) 1999"? or am i supposed to do something? shouldn't i > get some > sort of prompt? > wvdial stays in the foreground after connecting. either run it witha & on the end if you want to do some

slashdot like poll application

1999-10-02 Thread Chad A. Adlawan
hello LIST, i was wondering if theres anyone who knows of a "slashdot like poll" application that i can use on our website ... and where to get it. thanks, Chad

Re: pgcc compiler for slink?

1999-10-02 Thread ferret
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:21:29PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [suggestion to build stock egcs/pgcc in /usr/local] Okay, might do that. > > I recently updated one of my testing machines to Potato, and the patched > > gcc seems to be working fine. U

Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread markzimm
Based on some advice in this thread, I decided to try upgrading a few non-critical packages to see how it would go. After getting a few things upgraded without a hitch, I decided to give samba a try. It broke. After downgrading samba (also easy) so it would keep working, I looked for the problem i

keymap error when closing X

1999-10-02 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I get the following when closing Xwindows. What does this mean? How do I fix it? System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm -m us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server" keymap/xfr

no /dev/dsp

1999-10-02 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I keep getting an error that there is no /dev/dsp whenever I exit from Xwindows. This error is associated with Esound. I also get the error when trying to start ViaVoice. I have a Sound Blaster PNP16. What is dsp? Is there a way I can get the device /dsp on my system. Lance

Re: Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread John Gay
True, not quite 'Full Open Source', but as Linus says, think of free speech, not free beer! Just having access to the source code puts programmers years ahead of where Microsoft would like them to be. By Sun's licence, I, and many others, can download and run Solaris on my own system, make as man

Re: Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 04:02:46AM +0100, John Gay wrote: > > download and run Solaris on my own system, make as many modifications as I > like, > as long as I don't re-distribute the changes. Sun is only trying to protect > it's Not being able to distribute your changes, is not free speech. It

Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Taupter
> I don't think the original poster intended to imply that Brazil > was "uncivilized". Rather, being in the tropical zone, the > country gets roughly the same number of hours of daylight all > year long and so a summer daylight savings time doesn't make > sense. > > - Kris Kris, I understand y

RE: Sun goes fully open source!

1999-10-02 Thread B. Szyszka
> > download and run Solaris on my own system, make as many modifications as I > > like, > > as long as I don't re-distribute the changes. Sun is only trying to protect > > it's > Not being able to distribute your changes, is not free speech. It's crap and > they > are only hoping to capitalize

Re: pgcc compiler for slink?

1999-10-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:41:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:21:29PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I recently updated one of my testing machines to Potato, and the patched > > > gcc seems to be working fine. Unfor

Install headache - no network

1999-10-02 Thread Jordan Howarth
I am trying to install slink from my DOS partition on an NEC Versa note (inbuilt ethernet device based on the dc21143). When it comes to dselect, I cannot download packages as I install, as my ethernet card is not supported by the drivers in the current drv1440.bin. The alternative is to download

make-kpkg problems

1999-10-02 Thread Ramakrishnan M
Hello, I have been using make-kpkg for a long time for compiling kernels and making deb packages. Yesterday when I made a deb package, I got a deb package kernel-image-..._1.00.deb instead of kernel-image-2.2.12_1.00.deb I upgraded kernel-package from the unstable tree but it did not help.

Re: pgcc compiler for slink?

1999-10-02 Thread ferret
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Mark Brown wrote: > On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 06:41:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Mark Brown wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 10:21:29PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] > Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to achive. If you w

Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hmmm... exactly 80-column lines, more or less. 72 or 76 is much better though, it leaves room for replies. On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Damir J. Naden wrote: > Hi Brad; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote: > > ---stuff snipped here-- > > > Depending on the particular p

Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My real question is: To upgrade from slink to potato, should I go to a > 2.2 kernel under slink first? I know those issues are documented on > the Debian site. If so, what kernel version is most likely to prevent >

Re: no /dev/dsp

1999-10-02 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: > I keep getting an error that there is no /dev/dsp whenever I exit from > Xwindows. This error is associated with Esound. I also get the error > when trying to start ViaVoice. I have a Sound Blaster PNP16. Is it con

Fw: Boot/Installation problem i386 slink

1999-10-02 Thread Richard Turner
I don't know if this original message was accepted - I don't think I had properly registered.  If it is a dupe, I am sorry. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 27 September 1999 20:22 Subject: Boot/Installation problem i386 slink I'm tryi

RE: How do I switch between JDK versions?

1999-10-02 Thread George Bonser
The debian /usr/lib/jdk/bin/java is really a symlink to a .java_wrapper script. Having a look at that script may clear some things up for you. On 02-Oct-99 Joe Emenaker wrote: > Probably a FAQ... but, here goes > > I've noticed that the JDK 1.1 description claims that it can co-exist with

weird xmms behavior

1999-10-02 Thread Vaughn J. Lujan
I'm running potato, kernel v2.3.18, gnome, and enlightenment cvs. I'm using xmms for potato. When I start a track in xmms all other programs stop responding, when I stop xmms, everything I tried to do ex. start apps, minimize or maximize windows, happens and everything works properly again. I tri

Re: Debian homepage and apt: releases/stable

1999-10-02 Thread Nate Duehr
Dave, I didn't see anyone reply to your message. I think Jonnie took it off his site because it got accepted as a package in the "proposed-updates" section of slink, if I remember correctly. Hopefully this is helpful! On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 03:07:22PM -0500, Dave Baker wrote: > > The debian

Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Kristopher Johnson
Taupter wrote: > > Really, daylight savings could be useful during > all the year. Is this a joke? - Kris

RE: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread B. Szyszka
> As for the version, i'd go with the latest stable (2.2.12, unless they > released 2.2.13 just today). There's even a brand new Debian package so > you won't have to compile your own if you don't want. Where would I be able to find that package? -- Bart Szyszka [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:4982727 B

Isn't texi2dvi included with potato ?

1999-10-02 Thread shaul
I am not able to locate texi2dvi in unstable. Am I missing something ?

Re: daylight savings

1999-10-02 Thread shaul
With my potato installation, the East time zone is changing on Oct 10. There is no such info for the other Brazilian time zones. [14:55:13 /tmp]$ zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/Brazil/* | grep 1999 /usr/share/zoneinfo/Brazil/East Sun Feb 21 01:59:59 1999 UTC = Sat Feb 20 23:59:59 1999 BRST i

Help with Xfree and Gnome

1999-10-02 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I got (about a week ago) the official Debian distribution from Linux System Labs, and installed it after some adventures in a Packard Bell computer (pentium 60mh, desktop, etc, I know not enough, just to give you an idea). Now I have it finally running, but still trying to learn to move within a UN

make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread peter karlsson
I compiled and installed a kernel with make-kpkg, but now apt-get seems to want to overwrite it with one from the archive. I do not want that to happen, how do I tell apt-get to keep its hands off it? -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World >& World.log

Re: daylight savings

1999-10-02 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
Hi Shaul, This was the first correct answer to my message. While others went to discuss if we should or not have daylight savings in Brazil, you was kind enough to answer to me. BTW, somebody provided me with a correct zic file for Oct, 3 daylight savings beginning.

Re: netscape killing my machine

1999-10-02 Thread shaul
Although I have no figures from ps, I also got the impression that netscape is consuming too much memory. That one reason why I am considering to try the Mozilla deb (http://pandora.debian.org/~bfulgham) > As of very recently, netscape has been acting up. A few times in the > past few days it h

Re: ssh configfile

1999-10-02 Thread Norris Preyer
You might want to edit your /etc/ssh/ssh_config file and add the forwarding there (by default it is commented out). My file looks like -- # This is ssh client systemwide configuration file. This file provides # defaults for users, and t

RE: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread James Sasitorn
you can use dselect and use "H" on the package. This will hold the package and prevent "accidental" upgrading. james [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of peter karlsson > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 7:58 AM > To: debia

Re: Isn't texi2dvi included with potato ?

1999-10-02 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 14:28:07 +0200, shaul wrote: > I am not able to locate texi2dvi in unstable. Am I missing something ? Yes. The contents search in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages which reveals it's in the "texinfo" package in unstable. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Ok

Re: weird xmms behavior

1999-10-02 Thread Gregory T. Norris
I'm not seeing anything like that here... running potato with kernel 2.2.12, gnome, and AfterStep (development snapshot). The system is quite responsive, in fact. It sounds to me like it's probably either a kernel or window manager issue (depending upon whether programs really stop responding, or

More problems with Linux serial driver

1999-10-02 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
Hi All! So I've checked the sources of linux serial driver (serial.c and n_tty.c) and stated, that the I_PARMRK mode is the one which allows me to detect the data with FRAME or PARITY errors. BTW why there is no doc with explanation of all these nice tty modes which are defined in termbits.h ? I c

Re: [OT] daylight savings in Brazil?

1999-10-02 Thread Bruno Goncalves Russo
On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Kristopher Johnson wrote: > Taupter wrote: > > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > > > > I suppose this is a dumb question, but why would anyone bother with > > > daylight savings time in a tropical country? > > > > Despite some opinions, we have a large industrial park, 180 million

Re: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
Use epochs for your revision= when using make-kpkg: make-kpkg --revision=1:custom.1.0 kernel_image (see /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 02:57:39PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > I compiled and installed a kernel with make-kpkg, but now apt-get seems to > want to overwr

Truetype fonts

1999-10-02 Thread Robert Rati
Any know the name of some packages that are true-type font servers? I've been looking for them, but I haven't had any luck. TIA. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1999-00 | Aka Khyron the Backstabber | LI NN N U U X X

Re: Truetype fonts

1999-10-02 Thread Mark Wagnon
xfstt is the one I use on my box --- Mark Wagnon Chula Vista, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, B. Szyszka wrote: > > As for the version, i'd go with the latest stable (2.2.12, unless they > > released 2.2.13 just today). There's even a brand new Debian package so > > you won't have to compile your own if you don't want. > > Where woul

Re: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread Brad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, peter karlsson wrote: > I compiled and installed a kernel with make-kpkg, but now apt-get seems to > want to overwrite it with one from the archive. I do not want that to > happen, how do I tell apt-get to keep its hands off it? I always giv

cpu option of gcc & g++

1999-10-02 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
Hi all, I have to compile and cross-compile several sources on a PII machine, for both its own and a 486. I'd like to know how to specify that to 'make'. I had a look at both 'man gcc' & 'man g++', but these are huge, and I'm not a though programmer :) Also, I remarked that some software, compil

[OT] Win Blue Screen a la Airport terminal

1999-10-02 Thread Kent West
Sorry about off-topic post, but thought I'd share it. Most of you have seen the picture of the blue-screen airport terminal that shows Departures/Arrivals. I've got the locat educational channel on (The Learning Channel) and there's a program on about a big tornado in Oklahoma last year (sorry I

RE: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread peter karlsson
> you can use dselect and use "H" on the package. This will hold the package > and prevent "accidental" upgrading. Yeah, but that's not a very good solution, especially since I need to remember to do that manually each time I compile a new kernel. Plus that I have to go into dselect, which I don'

Re: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread peter karlsson
> Use epochs for your revision= when using make-kpkg: > make-kpkg --revision=1:custom.1.0 kernel_image > (see /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) Hmm, sounds good. Any way to get it to do that without me having to remember to add that each time? I couldn't find any parameter I could put in the conf

X-Server for AsusV3800 TNT2 Card

1999-10-02 Thread Attila Csosz
Hi, Where could I find X-Server for my AsusV3800 Riva TNT2 Card? What is its code name? ( XF86_??? ) If binary package dont't exists I can compile from source. I have got the 3.3.5 xserver source. I look around in the source package but I don't know what should I do. ( which part should I compile?

rebuilding the package cache

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Robbins
So let's say you've done something really dumb and nuked /var/lib/* completely and have no backup of /var. Is there some way to recover (apart from reinstalling) so that things like 'dselect/dpkg' are happy? -S [Please CC me on replies, thanks.]

lyx 1.0.4 without xforms

1999-10-02 Thread Paolo Pumilia
I have just dowloaded lyx-1.0.4 I depends od libforms0.89 libs, but they cannot be found on potato dist. Pol = __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Re: GNU Emacs-20.4 debs

1999-10-02 Thread Keith Harbaugh
On Fri, 1999-10-01 at 18:48:03 +0400, Alexander Zhuckov wrote: > Hi! > > Tell me, ple-e-e-e-ase, where I can find > GNU Emacs 20.4 Debian packages? This doesn't answer your question directly, but it may help keep you up to date without having to wait for deb's: If you have the a gcc compiler (I u

missing LDD in Linux

1999-10-02 Thread Bruno Van de Casteele
hi, while compiling my kernel (and pine, but that's smth else), i get an error, saying missing "ldd" or smth like that (should be in usr/bin/ ?) what is ldd? it isnt a package in Debian, i think... is it smth special? B

Re: ssh configfile

1999-10-02 Thread Gregory T. Norris
[sound of me smacking self on forehead with 2x4] OK, I'm an idiot... The per-user configuration file should have been ~/.ssh/config, NOT ~/.ssh/options. I can hardly believe that I could have overlooked something that simple. Thanx for your suggestions! On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 09:20:56AM -0400

Tengo un Problema

1999-10-02 Thread Rob Zombie
Saludos [EMAIL PROTECTED] de Debian. Quisiera que se me resolviera un problema algo serio. Tengo una tarjeta S3 Trio 3D y el programa XF86Setup no me la reconoce. Por lo tanto no puedo disfrutar del maravilloso entorno gráfico que me ofrece Linux y esto me desespera. Por favor, ruego a quien sea

Re: missing LDD in Linux

1999-10-02 Thread Gregory T. Norris
/usr/bin/ldd is one of the dynamic-linker utilities, and is provided by the ldso package. It definately ought to be present... I'd suggesr reinstalling ldso. On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 11:18:59PM +0200, Bruno Van de Casteele wrote: > hi, > > while compiling my kernel (and pine, but that's smth else

LILO on second drive?

1999-10-02 Thread EVCom Support
Greetings all, Having read various docs, etc on Lilo, and having never used it before (Always had Linux on it's own primary drive, etc) I would like to use lilo to make a slave drive bootable (kinda tired of using boot floppies). Now, my BIOS supports booting from any drive letter, so even th

xemacs: modifying cc-mode formatting rules

1999-10-02 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
I know that I've run across a facility that lets you modify cc-mode's style conventions for autoformatting. However, I blew it off, because I figured I'd never use it, and the default was fine for me. Now I'm in a class where I'm required to conform to very specific style, and I can't use xemacs

Re: make-kpkg and apt-get updates

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 09:43:30PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > > Use epochs for your revision= when using make-kpkg: > > make-kpkg --revision=1:custom.1.0 kernel_image > > (see /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz) > > Hmm, sounds good. Any way to get it to do that without me having to remember >

Re: Slink to Potato

1999-10-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:17:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wouldn't it be nice is this information was collated at one location so > that people could build on what's already been done and not have to try > everything new every time. That's what open source is about--sharing. > What I

Re: X-Server for AsusV3800 TNT2 Card

1999-10-02 Thread Martin Fluch
There are xfree86 3.3.5 debian packages compiled against the glibc2.0 available at the ftp server at cadzentrum.m.fh-offenburg.de. Put the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://cadzentrum.m.fh-offenburg.de/pub/os/linux/debian/ ./ Martin On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Attila Csosz wrote: > Wher

vi: line wrap?

1999-10-02 Thread bwarsing
can anybody tell me to set the line wrap to 80 in vi? i can't find this type of info anywhere. Thanks, bw

X and /etc/profile (joint)

1999-10-02 Thread Taupter
Hi, people. When I log in my system using a console terminal my aliases, locales sets and variables (stored in /etc/profile) work fine. I start X and they're still valid till I log out. When I boot my system with runlevel 2 (starts xdm) and use xdm to log in, these prefferences doesn't work anymo

Re: vi: line wrap?

1999-10-02 Thread Eric G . Miller
:set textwidth=80 Works with vim, imagine it works with other vi's. You can put that in the "rc" file for your particular flavor. -- +---++-+---++-+---++-+ | YOUR AD HERE1.900.FOO.BARZ | +-+---++-+---++-+---++

cu or tip for /dev/ttySx access?

1999-10-02 Thread Clint Dimick
Is there a package which contains either of these utilities? I wish to connect to a device which is attached via a null-modem cable to my ttyS0 port. Thanks, - Clint

Re: vi: line wrap?

1999-10-02 Thread David Z. Maze
bwarsing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BW> can anybody tell me to set the line wrap to 80 in vi? Try ':set wm=76' to set it to 76 chars. BW> i can't find this type of info anywhere. I generally use vim, which has a ':help' command which is quite useful. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTE