I apologize for this in advance for this is going to be a major
soapbox speech.
I think that programs like ICQ, that may or not have great functionality,
are inappropriate as a general solution to the problem (whatever it is)
unless the source or the protocol specification is freely made available
>A while back I tried install the FrontPage 97 extensions for Linux/Apache
>and it was not a particularly successful attempt. But I'd still find this
>very useful so i'm ready to try again. Have rtr improved their support
>for Linux any? Has anyone been successful in installing it on Debian? If
help!
i am installing debian 1.3.1 on a brand new pentium pro system
and the install gets stuck at the first "please wait, the
installation program is determining the current state of your
hardware..." window (just after the color/BW query).
i have tried multiple rescue floppys as well as
OK, after running Debian Linux for a week, my system developed
the following bug. After logging in from xdm, I can get in about
five to twenty keystrokes before the keyboard locks and I can't
even do a vulture nerve pinch to shut down.
My previous Slackware partition runs fine. I don't have e
On 30 Jul 1997, Stephen Witt wrote:
[cut]
> So, I would hate to see the continuation of a proprietary solution to
> a particular problem by the free software development population of
> the general public. It goes against nearly every basic part of the
> Linux/Unix/IP philosopy and in the end den
I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately.
Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use
Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available.
Nowadays, since you can buy Red Hat at Fry's, and Egghead, and every
other electronics store in the US, it seems there are throbbing ho
On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote:
[cut]
> >What you really need to do is to encourage their programming team to
> >finish up the Java version of their program which would allow you to run
> >ICQ under Linux and every other platform available. Just my thoughts.
> >
>
> The thing about Java i
> I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately.
>
> Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use
> Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available.
>
> Nowadays, since you can buy Red Hat at Fry's, and Egghead, and every
> other electronics store in the US, it seems there ar
During the 1.3 install, I am asked for specifics about my creative
labs CD. Mine runs off the soundblaster card entirely, so what do
I anser to the IO port, and IRQ questions? Do I mention the blaster's
IRQ number? And what driver module should I install for this guy; the
generic CDROM or a specif
Phil,
I know that you have tried different floppies, but this problem is almost
always caused by a bad floppy. Try some from a different source. Find
another Linux box and verify what is on the rescue floppy against the
resc1440 file with md5sum. I use :-
dd if=/dev/fd0 bs=8k | md5sum ; md5sum
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On a little ethernet like so:
moola.ethernet
fin.ethernet
coin.ethernet = ppp.isp.net
With one POP mailbox on pop.isp.net and
nameservers in isp.net.
Using smail 3.2 and ppp/diald.
I'd like to have all mail leaving the ethernet
to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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When using pine with diald, pine waits for the link
to come up and the mail to go out before returning
from a ^X (send) command.
Any tips.
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> Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat
> is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux.
That's fine with me. I started with Slackware, and moved to Debian.
I wouldn't recommend Slackware to a new user (unless it has changed)
- having a package management sy
I now have a problem with my Debian 1.3.1 on the TI Extensa 575CD laptop.
I have been struggling with setting up X (card: Cirrus CL-GD7543 chip).
After loggin keyboard input works fine until I touch the mouse then the
computer waits something like five minutes before I can type anything. The
mous
enable background sending in the pine config.
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> to come up and the mail to go out before returning
> from a ^X (send) command.
>
> Any tips.
>
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On 31-Jul-97 Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:
>On 30 Jul 1997, Stephen Witt wrote:
>[cut]
>> So, I would hate to see the continuation of a proprietary solution to
>> a particular problem by the free software development population of
>> the general public. It
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On 31-Jul-97 Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>> I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately.
>>
>> Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use
>> Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available.
>>
>> Nowadays, since you can buy Red Hat at Fry's,
Ok, so I've seen this question on here before but I forgot the answer.
I know that I can background a process the "&" but how do I keep the
process running after I logoff? A good example would be compiling a kernel
my mach takes about a hour to do this so when I telnet in I don't want to
stay logge
>I know that I can background a process the "&" but how do I keep the
>process running after I logoff? A good example would be compiling a kernel
>
nohup program &
do a man nohup for more information.
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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Jim Pick wrote:
> Red Hat Software is a company, so they have to turn a profit. That
> means they have to have a plan for what they do. An agenda, if you
> will. Part of their plan is to build an excellent distribution for
> newbies.
There are five kinds of users that wil
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Pat Masterson wrote:
> During the 1.3 install, I am asked for specifics about my creative
> labs CD. Mine runs off the soundblaster card entirely, so what do
> I anser to the IO port, and IRQ questions? Do I mention the blaster's
> IRQ number? And what driver module should I
Travis Cole wrote:
> But one thing to consider is RedHat makes it a habit to give free CDs to many
> of the developers. The author of fetchmail uses RedHat for just this reason.
> I also think Linus uses RedHat.
Do you think he'd switch if we sent him a CD? :-)
> It would be really cool if De
Hello,
I just tried updating my Debian 1.3 system tonight by ftp. I updated
with the stable and unstable releases on ftp.debian.org. The last
time I updated my system was about 2 weeks ago.
The symptoms here are not too detailed because I can't reboot my system!
Here is what happened:
I used
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote:
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>
> On 31-Jul-97 Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:
> >I'd like an app that will announce to a central server that I'm online (or
> >maybe distributed servers that communicate with each other for better
> >stability), a
This may well be the problem I am experiencing: see my post on
keyboard locking. Now that you mention it, my mouse was
nonresponsive. If anyone has a solution, I'd like to know, as
I'm still clueless.
Thanks,
P.S. If this is relevant, I set the mouse (a ps/2) to /dev/psaux.
Should this go
I am using Linux (debian) for 6 month. I tried 1.1, 1.2 and now 1.3.
I choose Debian because a friend of mine told me it is the easiest
distribution to upgrade. Since my friend knew debian a little bit than me
it was easier for me to install it. Now, I think this choice is very good.
Moreo
> I just looked at the new packages in 1.3.1. I tried to installing
> jdk1.1 and find out that all the documentation provided by Sun (API,
> demos) are compressed.
>
> The same happens for other packages too. The dvi files which are part
> of teTeX package are compressed too. This makes reading
Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just want everyone to know that I have been able to solve most of my
> problems in 1.3.1 Xserver. It turns out the problem was that the new
> server defaults to accelaration mode on the Trident card. Just putting
> Option "noaccel" solved most of my problems.
> pass through dselect. One of my projects on my todo list is a subset of
> debian and some local stuff to make an sbay.org linux distribution for
> sbay.org that will install and work with a minimum number of choices given
> to the user. Once it is installed, the user will be informed about debi
Hello Oliver! :)
On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> I installed MusixTeX from sunsite and tried to print the documentation.
BTW, there is now a MusiXTeX package for Debian. :) Check out
musixtex_t.75-2.deb in the unstable distribution! :) (It is still
sitting in master.debian.org
>wanting to do it with a Slackware type install. I have this idea that there
>could be a subset of Debian packages designed for a single user (home pc)
>work station. The user could choose this option in dselect and get that type
>of installation. Then it would be as simple as it is now to upgra
Sorry - This message is a duplicate
>wanting to do it with a Slackware type install. I have this idea that there
>could be a subset of Debian packages designed for a single user (home pc)
>work station. The user could choose this option in dselect and get that type
>of installation. Then it wou
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Colin R. Telmer wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Jason Westervelt wrote:
> > There is a program that comes in RedHat called showaudio. Does anyone
> > know where to snag this for Debian? I can't figure out how to install a
> > RedHat package through Debian, and would prefer not t
Victor Torrico wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> "Connected intermittantly to internet using PPP to an ISP who uses POP3 for
> mail. I am attempting to minimize the number of packages needed to run mail.
> It seems there are many mail packages but not a great deal of information on
> their interrela
On 30 Jul 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
> Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat
> is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux.
>
> Thoughts?
Another thought what distribution is linus using?
regards,
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Maybe It could have some restrain choices as with/without Xfree,
latex...
-> >wanting to do it with a Slackware type install. I have this idea that there
-> >could be a subset of Debian packages designed for a single user (home pc)
-> >work station. The user could choose this option in
A. M. Varon writes:
> > Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat
> > is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Another thought what distribution is linus using?
RedHat and he seems to be quite happy with it.
Regards
Joe
Hi there
I have a problem with my smail . When it accesses a remote host whose
has
in its MX entry an IP address, and not a full-qualified name, it return an
error message: "unknow host". It mean that smail does not recognize a mail
relay host by its IP number, instead by its host
On 30 Jul 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
> I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately.
>
> Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use
> Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available.
>
> Nowadays, since you can buy Red Hat at Fry's, and Egghead, and every
> other electro
While it may be important to a lot of people what distro Linus uses, I
think what is more striking to a lot of people (especially within the
US) is that NASA has used Debian twice now. Consider that (and maybe
slip the words mars in there.. hehe.) and you get a lot of potential for
vectoring^H^H^H
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Franck LE GALL - STAGIAIRE A FT.BD/CNET/DTD/PIH wrote:
> Maybe It could have some restrain choices as with/without Xfree,
> latex...
I think would be a not good idea to have a OS been installed
without graphics interface nowadays. The great appeal of the others
> So, I would hate to see the continuation of a proprietary solution to
> a particular problem by the free software development population of
> the general public. It goes against nearly every basic part of the
> Linux/Unix/IP philosopy and in the end denies us functionality and
> choice.
>
> Aga
> >Not if you just burn the msdos-i386 directory :) It has names for all
> >the packages in 8.3 format.
>
> Yeah, I thought of that too - *after* I had already downloaded the whole
> binary-i386 directory tree
>
> I decided against my two available options:
>
> - download the whole msdos-i
This is a copy of a msg I sent to the bash-maintainers ID a couple of
days ago. Some additional information - I just got an email from
CRON claiming the same error while running runq for smail.
Hmmm... Just got the following error on a Debian 1.3.1
Linux standard install. There's a perl pro
Hi,
Is there any way I can get more X/Console fonts by making and-or
designing them myself?
My console vs. X ratio is 50/50 and X has more fonts, while console has
only about 50-tops ( and they are all either asian, or arabic (in other
words -- not for me =). So, is there a font-sontruction packa
>
> Go ahead and download the msdos-i386 directory. Lots of files, but
> they're all small symlink files to the real ones. Won't take too
> long ...
>
Really? my version of ftp follows the links and collects the files.
Eric
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This seems to me to be worth while and yet be a very simple excercise if
you overlook the fact that we can argue until the cows come home about
what to include and exclude.
1) Build a Debian system as desired. (I built one this week with 30 Mb
/usr and I could do a lot better.)
2) Use dp
Dose any one have any idea what this file does ??
Installing a new kernel image using make-kpkg updates this file,
but this file is not mention in the Kernel-Howto.
It doesn't seem to exist on Slackware machines ??
Cheers
H.C.
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"Craig" == Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Craig> the real nslookup is in the bind package. it should probably
Craig> be separated from that and either put into an nslookup package
Craig> or included in the dnsutils package.
This was just done earlier today for dnsutils 8.1.1-2, now in
"jghasler" == jghasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
jghasler> Perhaps someone who has gotten into sendmail could write a
jghasler> sendmail.cf generator? I know about m4. It helps, but not
jghasler> enough.
Actually this is precisely what Debian's "sendmailconfig" is supposed
to do, at least f
On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Lawrence wrote:
> you must be root or member of group 'cqcam'
>
> lawrence
> cqcam & vic-cqcam maintainer
I was. The problem was that my lp port wasn't set up as
"enhanced" or "bi-directional". I'm not sure what the
difference is, but there are three settings in my BIOS: A
I noticed that I had a corrupted file and also found in
/var/log/messages(below)
Is this just a bad sector or worse. I rebooted and recreated the files and
everything is fine. I'm going to run e2fsck -c on the filesystem.
Should I do anything else to correct this?
Jul 30 21:49:39 macrae1 kernel
Alec Clews writes:
> If this is already a work in progress please let me know.
You might want to look at the seul project (http://www.seul.org/). They
are right now choosing between rpm and dpkg. They seem to be heading in
the direction of a totally new distribution which IMHO is a poor idea. I
Hello,
I have a 3c503 Network card from 3Com which reports at boot time:
'REJUMPER FOR SHARED MEMORY'
I have read that this is what I should do for this card, but have no
idea of how to go about this, or even where to start looking.
Is there a Howto, or does someone out there know the answer.
I want all the users in the floppy group to be able to mount floppies and
same for the cdrom group. I tried using the ch* commands and they had no
effect. Changing the 'user' flag in /etc/fstab allowed all users access.
Then when I was looking through the /etc directory I found a file called
'ma
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, David R. Kohel wrote:
> This may well be the problem I am experiencing: see my post on
> keyboard locking. Now that you mention it, my mouse was
> nonresponsive. If anyone has a solution, I'd like to know, as
> I'm still clueless.
>
> Thanks,
>
> P.S. If this is relevan
I have had problems install Debian with the InfoMagic April CDROM.
The package 'xlib6_3.2-1a.1.deb' and 'latex_2e-7.deb' are physically not
there !!! I would imagine xlib6 is too important to be omitted from
the CDs. I think the worse bit is that both packages are referred to in
the Pacakages.gz f
On Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 05:57:04AM -0700, Technomancer wrote:
> While it may be important to a lot of people what distro Linus uses, I
> think what is more striking to a lot of people (especially within the
> US) is that NASA has used Debian twice now. Consider that (and maybe
> slip the words mar
On Jul 31, H.C.Lai wrote:
> I have had problems install Debian with the InfoMagic April CDROM.
> The package 'xlib6_3.2-1a.1.deb' and 'latex_2e-7.deb' are physically not
> there !!! I would imagine xlib6 is too important to be omitted from
> the CDs. I think the worse bit is that both packages are
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote:
> Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
> > The only remaining problem is that I cannot change display modes now. The
> > monitor makes a funny sound and its shows some fuzzy lines if I try to get
> > the 1024x768 video mode. I am stuck at 800x600 and 640x480. If, howev
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On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, dada wrote:
>Hi
>
>How can I do to permit that one user, that have count in my computer
>(attached to and TCP/IP local network),can actualice your web pages?
>
>I want the next:
>
>1.- If the user make an authenticated ftp access,he must
On Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 08:31:44PM -0500, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
> Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat
> is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux.
With luck. But traditionally developers run Redhat too,
probably because it was popular earlier (I think),
>
> This script does not work if the filename has a directory appended.
> Do you have a bug fix for this?
>
> I tend to agree with the original message that gzipped .dvi and
> .html are not a great idea.
>
> > zxdvi:
> >
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
>
> I think would be a not good idea to have a OS been installed
> without graphics interface nowadays. The great appeal of the others OS is
> exactly their nice interface and trying to convince somebody, mainly a
> newbie, to change to
If a user logs in and runs a process such as fetchmail, will it still be
runnning when he/she logs out?
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Johnny Stevenson wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 3c503 Network card from 3Com which reports at boot time:
>
> 'REJUMPER FOR SHARED MEMORY'
>
> I have read that this is what I should do for this card, but have no
> idea of how to go about this, or even where to start looking.
>
> Is there a Howt
Hi,
psdatabase is used by programs like ps (for the WCHAN field)
and top. Newer versions of ps can look at the System.map file,
though, so newer (unstable) versions of the kernel-package no longer
create psdatabases.
Hope this helps,
manoj
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anyone have the 4 icons (.xpm format) from the component-bar on Netscape
Communicator?
-Paul
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Well, I have an application for a subset of debian. It would be a great
learning opportunity for me to learn more about building Debian packages,
etc. One of the things I need to do for it is configure it with some
changes to the default smail config.
One of the beauties on using Debian for th
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: On a little ethernet like so:
:
: moola.ethernet
: fin.ethernet
: coin.ethernet = ppp.isp.net
:
: With one POP mailbox on pop.isp.net and
: nameservers in isp.net.
:
: Using smail 3.2 and ppp/diald.
:
: I'd like to have all mail le
I need to setup mail restrictions -- users that can use mail and how
much space they can use. Currently I'm using smail and quota.
-Paul
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On 31-Jul-97 Shaya Potter wrote:
>On 30 Jul 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
>
>> I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately.
>>
>> Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use
>> Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available.
>>
>> Nowada
Linus uses an Alpha. Is the Debian alpha port done yet?
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Technomancer wrote:
> While it may be important to a lot of people what distro Linus uses, I
> think what is more striking to a lot of people (especially within the
> US) is that NASA has used Debian twice now. Consi
Matthew R. Briggs wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I just got a brand-new HP Laserjet 6P, and whereas printing wasn't much
> of a priority for me before, I'd like to make this work so I can use
> Applixware and ditch MS Office. Unfortunately, I am completely baffled
> by the problems I am having. I am usi
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On 31-Jul-97 George Bonser wrote:
>
>On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
>
>>
>> I think would be a not good idea to have a OS been installed
>> without graphics interface nowadays. The great appeal of the others OS is
>> exactly their nic
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote:
>
> What I had in mind to do for the local distribution that I was going to
> make was fvwm and a nice set of default menus. The default X install can
> be made a little nicer than Debian because I would only give them one
> choice X or no X with fvw
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On 31-Jul-97 Martin Schulze wrote:
>A. M. Varon writes:
>
>> > Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat
>> > is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>>
>> Another thought what distribution is li
You can set up the your MTA to queue your messages instead of sending
immediately. Then enable-background-sending in pine.
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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When using pine with diald, pine waits for the link
> to come up and the mail to go out before returning
> fr
Victor Torrico wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> "Connected intermittantly to internet using PPP to an ISP who uses POP3 for
> mail. I am attempting to minimize the number of packages needed to run mail.
> It seems there are many mail packages but not a great deal of information on
> their interrelati
On Wed, Jul 30, 1997 at 11:48:25AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Manoj Srivastava writes:
: > Hacking sendmail.cf is a mindset. Once you get into it (lord help me,
: > I've been there), there is an elegant simplicity about the rules.
:
: Perhaps someone who has gotten into sendmail could write
I noticed that almost everyone on this list uses pgp.. I installed the
debian package and I'm wondering how do auto-encrypt/decrypt all my mail.
I use pine (pinepgp package) and netscape communicator 4.01b6
-Paul
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>
> George Bonser
> Why is it that the same people that tell us that manned space flight
> is a waste of money also tell us that we have been visited by aliens?
>
It all makes perfect sense when you think of it:
since they are coming to us already, we don't need to go to them !
:)
Eric
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On Jul 31, Joost Kooij wrote:
> Jeff Noxon wrote:
> >
> > Shouldn't we provide a script to CD manufacturers so they can verify
> > the Packages files against what they actually have on their mirror?
>
> Starting with debian 1.3 there are special images available for cd
> resellers. They only hav
When I'm not using xterm sometimes, it disappears.. The only thing that I
could think of is that it is connecting by ttyp* because I use the
timeoutd and it is only configured for ttyp*???
-Paul
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H.C.Lai wrote:
>
> I have had problems install Debian with the InfoMagic April CDROM.
>
> I have used the last 3 CD sets released by InfoMagic and if my memory
> serves me right, I have encountered problems with each and every one of
> them. If I were a totally new guys trying to install Debian u
I inherited one of these beasts, and I see it has a 386 in it. I
figured I could try to install Linux on it and have it do something
useful like firewall our intranet server or something ... so, has anyone
installed Debian on a Model 80 before? I've got enough RAM, a 314 MB
ESDI drive, and a SCSI
Travis Cole wrote:
>On 30-Jul-97 Riku Saikkonen wrote:
>>To tell if someone is online:
>> - finger
>> - rwho (but rwhod isn't installed in most places)
>> - talk (try to talk...)
>Now if my friend runs Win95 and his ISP doesn't support shell accounts or
>finger, then how is finger going to do any g
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
> I noticed that almost everyone on this list uses pgp.. I installed the
> debian package and I'm wondering how do auto-encrypt/decrypt all my mail.
>
> I use pine (pinepgp package) and netscape communicator 4.01b6
Don't know how to do it in netscape but f
Paul Miller wrote
> I noticed that almost everyone on this list uses pgp.. I installed the
> debian package and I'm wondering how do auto-encrypt/decrypt all my mail.
>
> I use pine (pinepgp package) and netscape communicator 4.01b6
For pine, set
display-filters=_BEGINNING("-BEGIN P
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote:
[cut]
> I would love to have this as in a free and open form but now the only option I
> can see is ICQ or AOL's AIM and right now AIM is the only one working for more
> than Windows.
Hehe, I just checked this out...I'll try it for a while because my family
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