Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Brian C. White
> I've thought about this for many hours, and I'm afraid I agree with Ian. > If we release with XFree86 3.1, that will be the last Debian release ever, > because we will have blown our credibility. We just can't afford to do it. > So, I'm afraid I really must accept the resignation you offered yest

Re: Debian for AXP?

1996-11-30 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > Mike Neuffer, Bdale Garbee, Miquel and Danny of Cistron, and I have > all purchased DEC ALPHA Multias in the past two weeks. This bodes well > for a 1.2 release on them. You can add me to the list, as well as a couple of other Debian users here at UM. I

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: "Brian C. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I never placed my position as "distribution manager" on the line for > this point. I just said that if you didn't want me to do my job, then > say so. Indeed you didn't. I think the problem is mine. I've been able to delegate almost _everything_ about

2.0.25 and Lilo

1996-11-30 Thread Martin Weinberg
Folks (and esp. kernel-source/image maintainters), Based on the following experience, I would like to suggest that that the kernel package should "depend on" or "recommend" Lilo>17. At the very least, it might be good to give a heads up to problems with versions earlier than 18 in the README.

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Graeme Stewart
> "Bruce" == Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bruce> From: "Brian C. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> I never placed my position as "distribution manager" on the >> line for this point. I just said that if you didn't want me to >> do my job, then say so. Bruce> Indee

acm unable to find libx11.so.6

1996-11-30 Thread Mritunjay Singh
I tried running acm (flight simulator) and my system gives the error message: unable to find libx11.so.6 or something like that. I checked and this file actually exists. Do I need to set some path to enable acm to access it? How would I do that? Thanks a lot. Mritunjay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FRO

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Graeme Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This thread seems to have appeared in the debian-user lists a little > like a bolt from the blue. I am a very keen Debian user and > proselytiser and I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the > future of Debian re. what we have read. Conflict

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread John Hasler
Graeme Stewart > I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the future of Debian > re. what we have read. I am. > I really hope that it succeeds, in fact I hope to contribute to its > success, but my _perception_ at the moment is of technical secrets being > kept from users (re. XFree3.1)

ftp.debian.org problems

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
"frozen" seems to be mostly gone from ftp.debian.org . I'll ask Greg Hankins, the administrator, to look into the problem. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 2

What is happening with Debian 1.2

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) > I agree. What the hell is going on? I intended to upgrade, and install > Debian on my old machine as soon as 1.2 came out. Now I think I'll wait. It's not a big deal. We had some argument about what belonged in the release, and as a consequence I decided

Re: Goodbye, all!

1996-11-30 Thread Joe Emenaker
> > Graeme Stewart > > I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the future of Debian > > re. what we have read. > > I am. I'm not. > > I really hope that it succeeds, in fact I hope to contribute to its > > success, but my _perception_ at the moment is of technical secrets being > > ke

Re: Goodbye, all!

1996-11-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hello, not, I am NOT a major participaint in the Projekt, only one of 100 Developers and this is my personal oppinion: > However, my belief in Debian and what is stands for is, largely, unshaken. > On the other hand, I should point out that Nixon's real crime was in trying > to *cover up* waterga

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Brian C. White
> This thread seems to have appeared in the debian-user lists a little > like a bolt from the blue. I am a very keen Debian user and > proselytiser and I'm sure that many of us are very concerned about the > future of Debian re. what we have read. > > I don't want debian-user to become a war zone

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread butch
Hello, what is happening to the debian distribution? is it folding? allan - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/30/96 Time: 1:21:37 PM This message was sent by Chameleon - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM TH

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Brian C. White
> what is happening to the debian distribution? is it folding? Absolutely not. Debian is strong and growing. This entire mess was actually a bit of a growing pain with different people having different ideas about what would make Debian the strongest. There is no cause for concern regarding the

Re: Goodbye, all! (Whatever became of X3.2)

1996-11-30 Thread Eloy A. Paris
At 06:49 PM 11/29/96 -0500, somebody wrote: >However since you have said so, I officially hand in my resignation. >I wish you good luck with Debian in the future. Come on guys!!! I am not a Debian developer (yet) but I am a Debian user and I think we need everybody's effort in order to make Debia

Re: Goodbye, all!

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: CoB SysAdmin (Joe Emenaker) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Agreed that there is the perception that the development effort has been > keeping a secret from us that we should have been made aware of. I got a message out to debian-announce within an hour after I made a decision. > o How close did Debi

Re: dial up

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
PPP is included in the 1.2 base disks, along with a "dselect" FTP method. If you do a floppy install, you don't need to add anything to have dial-up IP. If you don't do a floppy install you need the "ppp", "netbase", "netstd", and "dpkg-ftp". Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Goodbye, all!

1996-11-30 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Eckenfels) > The bootdisks where finished 2 day ago. These are the 1.1 boot disks from 6 months ago with "initrd" added and a few bug-fixes like keyboard configuration. It's not like it's a brand-new program. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fi

More Ports for Debian's

1996-11-30 Thread ciccio
Hi, I've got an intel based Debian box, and an m68k (Atari Falcon), also running Linux. I'd liked to connect them using ppp or plip, but the bigger box has all serial and paralel ports ocupied (mouse, modem, printer). So I decided to purchase a card giving me an additional paralel and two serial p

nlists.h and bind

1996-11-30 Thread Butch Kemper
I am attempting to compile bind495-REL and it is failing because the nlist.h header file is missing. Obviously, I have failed to install a need package but so far, I haven't been able to determine which package. Can someone help me? Thanks. Butch Butch Kemper | Free so

Compiling numerical python

1996-11-30 Thread Jeppe Sigbrandt
Hiya, Has anyone succeeded in compiling numerical python ? I am currently running the debian pre-1.2 distribution found in frozen/unstable. And installed all the python stuff except some of the database support archives. I have tried to follow the instructions that come with NumPy, but somehow

Compiling 1.2.13 using current frozen distribution

1996-11-30 Thread Jeppe Sigbrandt
Hiya all, Am having trouble compiling kernel 1.2.13 Had a look at DejaNews to see if anyone else has been having the same trouble and found the message enclosed below. Following the instructions therein, solved those particular problems: I insalled aout-gcc and aout-binutils and modified the pa

Re: What is happening with Debian 1.2

1996-11-30 Thread Dave Cinege
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) >> I agree. What the hell is going on? I intended to upgrade, and install >> Debian on my old machine as soon as 1.2 came out. Now I think I'll wait. > >It's not a big deal. We had some argume