Re: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel

1996-09-06 Thread Boris Yati Beletsky
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |>Date: Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:19 EDT |>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |>To: borik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |>Cc: Miro Torrielli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org |>Subject: Re: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel |> |> |> |>Or set up your /etc/conf.modules:

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Guy Maor
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > Is it time to split the list? This isn't necessary. The number of messages per day is quite reasonable. As long as discussions are related to Debian, I don't think it inappropriate that they get tecnical. Guy

Emumod & Dosemu 0.63.66

1996-09-06 Thread Miro Torrielli
While on the kernel subject, I'm having problems insmoding the emumod module of dosemu. After a successful compile, emumod won't load, saying: undefined (repeated fifteen or so times) Loading failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.17) don't match your linux-2.0.17 This has also happ

RE: Dosemu

1996-09-06 Thread wb2oyc
On 04:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>Has anyone succeeded in getting the latest versions of >Dosemu to work? I can successfully compile, but can't >insmod emumodule. Insmod dumps fifteen or so lines saying: > >x undefined >... >Loading failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.7) don't >mat

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread wb2oyc
On 06:20:26 Boris Yati Beletsky wrote: >>On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > >|>I would propose: >|> >|> debian-install >|> debian-nontechnical >|> debian-technical >|> >it's a very good idea , but i don't understand whats debian-nontechnical >would do? > Well, I don't like it.

Re: tex font problems

1996-09-06 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Hakan -- You said: > I am having trouble with the latex font, all non normal characters like > \"{a}, \aa and so on does not show up in the .dvi file. Has anybody else > moticed this? As far as I can tell, these are not LaTeX constructions, but TeX constructions. I made a silly .tex file with

Re: Where can I find lucid Emacs

1996-09-06 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
"Miguel A. Avillez" writes: -> Where can I find Lucid Emacs? Is it Xemacs? if it is where can i find it -> for linux? Yes. Lucid Emacs was a version of Emacs forked off the GNU version by a company called Lucid (duh :) for use with their C development environment. When Lucid folded, the 'net co

Printing problems

1996-09-06 Thread Matthew D Moss
I'm having problems getting pages to come out of my printer correctly. The symptoms: 1) Small text files don't print. The printer heads move around a bit (as bubblejets like to do) but never gets to printing. 2) Larger files (text/postscript) will print, but usually sta

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Eze Ogwuma
> Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high > level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time > to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for > people trying to install the system. At the time we did not have enough > t

Re: Dosemu

1996-09-06 Thread Larry 'Daffy' Daffner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -> On 04:17:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -> >>Has anyone succeeded in getting the latest versions of -> >Dosemu to work? I can successfully compile, but can't -> >insmod emumodule. Insmod dumps fifteen or so lines saying: [...] -> No, it doesn't work here either. My I-C

latex

1996-09-06 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti
The LaTeX in Debian seems to be broken. Revision 2e-4 didn't seem to find the standard classes and packages. Revision 2e-7 dies on installation. Has anybody been successful with LaTeX? Thanks, Giuseppe

kernel with APM

1996-09-06 Thread Giuseppe Vacanti
I would like to try out the Advanced Power Management features in my PC. However I haven't been able to enable APM in the kernel. When I do make xconfig I do nt see any obvious switch referring to APM. What am I missing? Could anybody who's ben using APM tell me if they're happy with it? Thanks,

Re: Latex documentation for beginners?

1996-09-06 Thread Per Jotun
> > Is there any introduction to LateX available somewhere? I do not want to > buy a book (and they are quite expensive here) before knowing enough to > decide whether I want to use the product seriously. > > > Johann Spies > The most complete source of information and collection of documenta

ELM and PGP

1996-09-06 Thread Ronald van Loon
Dear Debian people, I have the following problem with ELM and PGP. I often get a message saying "could not open pgptemp.$01" - and the request that I type the correct filename. However, this filename, if I am not mistaken, should have been presented to PGP by ELM. What is wrong here ? Ronald va

Re: tex font problems

1996-09-06 Thread Thomas Schiex
> On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:28:37 -0400, "Susan G. Kleinmann" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: Susan> Hi Hakan -- You said: >> I am having trouble with the latex font, all non normal characters like >> \"{a}, \aa and so on does not show up in the .dvi file. Has anybody else >> moticed this? Sus

RE: newsgroup creation RFD - draft

1996-09-06 Thread Casper BodenCummins
If there are 500 posts a day to comp.lang.c++, it strikes me that this group is *begging* to be split up. Besides the wading-through-heaps-of-stuff-you-'re-not-interested-in factor, some of us have to pay to receive news articles and suchlike, and a better targeted audience would save us lots of ti

RE: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Brian C. White wrote: >People love to complain about there being too much information, but they >overlook the fact that the reason they can get information and fast >responses is because there is so much going on there. If you split >the list, many people will not subscribe to some of them and th

eepro.c

1996-09-06 Thread Jan Ramon
eepro.c seems to be convinced that he must probe for internet etherexpress at 0x240. I also found static unsigned int eepro_portlist[] = { 0x200, 0x240, 0x280, 0x2C0, 0x300, 0x320, 0x340, 0x360, 0}; So, eepro.c is also convinced that a card on 0x230 can't exist. This isn't true. My car

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Billy Chow
> "Ken" == Ken Gaugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ken> Maybe debian-user and debian-install, to keep it simple? I second this. -- Billy C.-M. Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux

files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
hello i have found several files in my / and /usr filesystems, that don't belong to any packages. is this considered a bug ? many files, such as /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape are installed by a debian package, but they don't aprear in any /var/lib/dpkg/info/*lists or *conffiles ... andreas -- -rw-rw-r-

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Casper BodenCummins: > After reading your posts, I'm coming around to the view that two groups > - debian-user and debian-install - would be best. There is perhaps > insufficient non-technical discussion to warrant a separate list. We already have the debian-talk list (send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTE

PGP pP

1996-09-06 Thread Ronald van Loon
This message is an example of the problem I mentioned earlier. The actual message is "File pgptemp.$01 has signature but no text." |" |"--==_Exmh_-1614421896P |"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii |" |"Casper BodenCummins: |"> After reading your posts, I'm coming around to the view that tw

RE: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Not all files will be listed in the Contents and related files. Some are created during package configuration, some later. Almost all the files you listed are normal. However, I'd check these: /usr/lib/texmf/ini/core Not sure if this should be here. Run a `file /usr/lib/texmf/ini/core'. If t

Re: tex font problems

1996-09-06 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Thomas Schiex wrote: > > > On Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:28:37 -0400, "Susan G. Kleinmann" <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> said: > > Susan> Hi Hakan -- You said: > >> I am having trouble with the latex font, all non normal characters like > >> \"{a}, \aa and so on does not show up

Re: latex

1996-09-06 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Giuseppe Vacanti writes: Giuseppe> The LaTeX in Debian seems to be broken. Revision 2e-4 didn't Giuseppe> seem to find the standard classes and packages. Revision 2e-7 Giuseppe> dies on installation. Giuseppe> Giuseppe> Has anybody been successful with LaTeX? I never had any problem

Re: PGP pP

1996-09-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Ronald van Loon: > This message is an example of the problem I mentioned earlier. > > The actual message is "File pgptemp.$01 has signature but no text." Your Elm probably doesn't support PGP/MIME. See http://www.c2.org/~raph/pgpmime.html for more information on PGP/MIME. -- P

Re: kernel with APM

1996-09-06 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Giuseppe Vacanti writes: Giuseppe> I would like to try out the Advanced Power Management features Giuseppe> in my PC. However I haven't been able to enable APM in the Giuseppe> kernel. When I do make xconfig I do nt see any obvious switch Giuseppe> referring to APM. APM is in the "Cha

Re: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Ronald van Loon
|" /etc/passwd~ |" Looks like a temp file. Can anyone shed some light on this? |" |" /usr/bin/[* |" This is junk. Blow it away. If the '*' is part of the filename, I agree. If not, this is necessary for shells that do not have test as a builtin. It should be a hardlink to 'test' (necessary for

RE: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Henrik Wallin
Hello, Don't delete '/usr/bin/['. It's a hardlink to /usr/bin/test and alot of shell-scripts uses this in if-statements etc. / Henrik Wallin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Casper BodenCummins wrote: > Not all files will be listed in the Contents and related files. Some are > created dur

Re: newsgroup creation RFD - draft

1996-09-06 Thread Juri Pakaste
> "BCW" == Brian C White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) >> >> moderated group comp.os.linux.debian.announce moderated group >> comp.os.linux.debian.install moderated group >> comp.os.linux.debian.nontech moderated group >> comp.os.linux.debian.tech moderated

Re: tex font problems

1996-09-06 Thread Hakan Ardo
Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > > \"{a}, \aa and so on does not show up in the .dvi file. Has anybody else > > moticed this? > > As far as I can tell, these are not LaTeX constructions, but TeX > constructions. > I made a silly .tex file with these lines: > > =begin junk.tex

Re: PGP pP

1996-09-06 Thread Jan Camenisch
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Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > Some newbies tell me they find debian-user intimidating due to the high > level of technical discussion that sometimes goes on there. Is it time > to split the list? About 2 years ago I proposed a separate list just for > people trying to install the syste

Boot Hangs on New Install

1996-09-06 Thread Kevin K. Lewis
I just installed Debian 1.1 last night (overwriting my old Slackware install). I got through the smoke-test (ie, reboot), and everything seemed fairly okay (got a couple warnings about post?-install scripts not being found). I installed my packages, setup X (my mouse won't work ;-), user account

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
On Sep 6, 8:31am, Thomas R Behrndt wrote: > Subject: Re: time to split the list? : A very good idea. However, it might be a good idea to retain the name : debian-user as well, particularly since there is now a news group of : that name. Seconded. I like the name debian-user better than debian-no

Re: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Max Hyre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dear Andreas: Casper BodenCummins wrote: > /usr/bin/[* > This is junk. Blow it away. DON'T DO IT! Whew---sorry for shouting, but: This is indeed a file named ``['', and it's executable (hence the ``*'' in what must be an ls -lF listing). ``['' is a syn

Re: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi, > /etc/passwd~ > Looks like a temp file. Can anyone shed some light on this? This can be created by editing /etcpasswd by hand Delete it.. > > /usr/bin/[* > This is junk. Blow it away. No, this is the Binary "test", it is needed for things like "[ -f "bla" ]" for shells wich dont s

Re: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Nikita Schmidt
Casper BodenCummins wrote: > > /usr/bin/[* > This is junk. Blow it away. > Actually, /usr/bin/[ is the same as /usr/bin/test (they are hardlinked). And, in my opinion, they are not junk. Yes, bash has them built in, but some other shells may have not. > > /dev/initctl| > /dev/printer=

RE: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Casper BodenCummins
Max Hyre wrote: > Dear Andreas: > >Casper BodenCummins wrote: > >> /usr/bin/[* >> This is junk. Blow it away. > >DON'T DO IT! > >Whew---sorry for shouting, but: This is indeed a file named ``['', >and it's executable (hence the ``*'' in what must be an ls -lF >listing). > >``['' is a synonym

FVW95 anyone?

1996-09-06 Thread Christoph Lameter
Is anyone working on getting fvwm95 debianized? I have a halfway working package and I wonder if its worth the effort to finish it since I saw some discussion about other people working on it.

Re: newsgroup creation RFD - draft

1996-09-06 Thread David Gaudine
On 6 Sep 1996, Juri Pakaste wrote: > Wouldn't comp.os.linux.distrib.debian.* or something similar be > better? If users of other distributions decide that they'd like to > have newsgroups too, things would be pretty confusing with > c.o.l.{debian,redhat,caldera,slackware,craftworks,yggdrasil,wgs

Re: PGP pP

1996-09-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Jan Camenisch: > well for me a PGP signature in MIME format looks like this > mail and the PGP header says PGP-signature rather than message... More precisely, it says Content-type: application/pgp; format=mime; x-action=signclear; x-originator=29160A2D T

RE: files without package

1996-09-06 Thread Guy Maor
On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Casper BodenCummins wrote: > /etc/passwd~ > Looks like a temp file. Can anyone shed some light on this? passwd writes it out whenever something changes, just in case. > /usr/bin/[* > This is junk. Blow it away. Actually this is a link to test. POSIX.2 (?) mandates i

Latex: where to install new styles? Mf: how to muzzle?

1996-09-06 Thread Jean Orloff
To begin with: I installed Latex2e-7 yesterday, with libmf required, the mf** packages mentionned earlier, and it all works without a single "format not found"! Thanks debian-user!!! Now the questions: 1) Where/how am I supposed to install latex styles for all users? /usr/lib/texmf/tex is quite

Java Workshop

1996-09-06 Thread Miro Torrielli
The Java Workshop mini-howto in the latest doc-debian package describes how to setup JW on Linux. However, the latest JW, version 1.0, has just been released, and is slightly different than the old version referred to in the howto. Is the setup procedure the same? I doubt it, because there are som

Re: Upgrading to un-debianized kernel

1996-09-06 Thread Dirk Bernhardt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Miro Torrielli writes: > I recently upgraded to the 2.0.17 kernel, although this problem > occured with other non-debian kernels. I now get, on boot, and in > my daemon log when use diald and pppd, Can't locate module net-pf-4 > "" "" "" -5 You have to a

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Bill Wohler
Casper made some good points regarding debian-install. Let's start with debian-install and debian-user and see how it goes. I don't like debian-*technical. At the moment, the line between debian-user and a potential debian-devel is rather fuzzy in my mind and as such both would carry m

Re: Latex: where to install new styles? Mf: how to muzzle?

1996-09-06 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Jean> 1) Where/how am I supposed to install latex styles for all users? Below /usr/local/lib/texmf/tex/latex/ As kpathsea searches recursively (see /usr/lib/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf), I usually keep some subdirs (that match the CTAN structure). Jean> 2) Kpathsea is a nice and powerful thing. H

Re: time to split the list?

1996-09-06 Thread Winfried Truemper
I'm only subscribed to lists which do not carry more than 10 mails/week. This way my mailbox keeps mostly interesting stuff which I can oversee. It is a _must_ to convert high-traffic lists into newsgroups because: - one gets overwhelmed by the number of e-mails per day, - the disk gets cl

Re: eepro.c

1996-09-06 Thread Bruce Perens
[Question about how to neatly change the eepro driver CSR address] If it's a module, try "modprobe eepro io=0x230". If that works, add it to /etc/conf.modules . Otherwise, just add 0x230 to eepro_portlist. Bruce

installing debian with initrd

1996-09-06 Thread Marty Leisner
Is there a compressed filesystem in a file somewhere (I already have a kernel) where I can just do: loadlin kernel initrd=image.gz root=/dev/ramdisk and start installing? I do kinda the same thing with slackware [I know how to (I never tried debian), I know what I have to do to install

Re: Latex: where to install new styles? Mf: how to muzzle?

1996-09-06 Thread RHS Linux User
Hi there I normally assume that Latex should be installed in /usr/local/texmf where all the libraries and styles are included. for everything to work perfectly you should add the proper paths in the /etc/bashrc or .bashrc export TEXMF=/usr/local/texmf export TEXINPUTS=.:$TEXMF/tex/latex2e//:$TE

Re: installing debian with initrd

1996-09-06 Thread Bruce Perens
> Is there a compressed filesystem in a file somewhere (I already have > a kernel) where I can just do: > > loadlin kernel initrd=image.gz root=/dev/ramdisk > > and start installing? I am working on this for Debian 1.2 . Currently, you have to go through the 5-floppy thing as detailed in

aout/elf

1996-09-06 Thread Tim Sailer
Can some kind soul tell me if there is a libg++ for the aout compiler, or, if not, how to get a ELF binary to run on a stock 1.2.0 kernel aout system? I have elf enabled in the kernel, but it doesn't run.. I forget the message right now. It's a farily simple c++ program, but it's running (or suppos