Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:13:43 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > model.dat being a file in /usr/share it will most likely be overwritten > > > without any warning (but I'm too lazy to check). > > that's not a big problem: > a simple "grep" can

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Andrei POPESCU wrote: model.dat being a file in /usr/share it will most likely be overwritten without any warning (but I'm too lazy to check). that's not a big problem: a simple "grep" can show whether the file has been updated, a simple "cat" can re-introduce my env

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:13:59 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 08:37:47, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:24:22 +0200 (CEST) > > Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > > > thank you for tour warning, but it's not too difficult to make a > > > backup. > > > > It's not /quite/

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:13:59 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Hello Andrei, >model.dat being a file in /usr/share it will most likely be overwritten >without any warning (but I'm too lazy to check). Likewise. :-) Cheers for the clarification (which I trimmed for brevity). -- Regards _

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 01 aug 19, 08:37:47, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:24:22 +0200 (CEST) > Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > thank you for tour warning, but it's not too difficult to make a > > backup. > > It's not /quite/ that simple. I know that the update process is > 'clever' enough to detect

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 10:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > you are right, but I speak of a backup, it's only the entry i've added. > So, I just have to add it to the new models.dat, if any. Now I understand. In my mind I was overcomplicating things. Cheers. -- Regard

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: So, simply replacing the updated model.dat file with your backup means you'll lose any improvements that come about from that update. Of course, if those improvements don't include tweaks to the stanza for your printer, then the problem probably isn't an i

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-08-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 08:24:22 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > thank you for tour warning, but it's not too difficult to make a > backup. It's not /quite/ that simple. I know that the update process is 'clever' enough to detect user made config changes and offer options, but

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: You should be aware that, come next update of hplip, your changes may be lost, unless you are careful. thank you for tour warning, but it's not too difficult to make a backup. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 21:53:43 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > grep "envy_photo_7100" /usr/share/hplip/data/models/models.dat > I added it to models.dat You should be aware that, come next update of hplip, your changes may be lost, unless you are careful. -- Regards

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: But you said your was laptop amd64/stretch; it wasn't. models.dat had been altered at some time by you. You failed to mention that. I never modified models.dat before. until last week, I used "scanimage -d hpaio:/net/envy_photo_7100..." after your questi

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 20:18:09 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > You are misunderstanding. When I said "Neither should have an envy photo > > 7100 entry in models.dat.", I meant that the *stretch* models.dat does > > not have it as an entry. If it is there, i

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: You are misunderstanding. When I said "Neither should have an envy photo 7100 entry in models.dat.", I meant that the *stretch* models.dat does not have it as an entry. If it is there, it has been put there - and not by anything which a stretch inastallation wou

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 19:43:24 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > Which laptop? Both have stretch. Neither should have an envy photo 7100 > > entry in models.dat. > > this time, facts prove that your are wrong (we say in french > "les faits sont tĂȘtus" i.

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: Which laptop? Both have stretch. Neither should have an envy photo 7100 entry in models.dat. this time, facts prove that your are wrong (we say in french "les faits sont tĂȘtus" i.e. "facts are stubborn" and here are the facts: - without the envy entry

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 17:18:16 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 13:52:29 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > > > Here are the outputs of scanimage on my desktop: > > > > > >scanimage: open of device > > > hpaio:/net/HP_LaserJet

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 17:31:38 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > Another check: > > > > grep "envy_photo_7100" /usr/share/hplip/data/models/models.dat > > > > you are right: the envy entry was missing on this laptop. > thanks a lot for your help Which

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: Another check: grep "envy_photo_7100" /usr/share/hplip/data/models/models.dat you are right: the envy entry was missing on this laptop. thanks a lot for your help best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 13:52:29 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Here are the outputs of scanimage on my desktop: scanimage: open of device hpaio:/net/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231?ip=192.168.1.41 failed: Error during device I/O scanimage: open of device h

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 16:28:55 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > What is given by 'dpkg -l libsane-hpaio' from both stretch machines? > > exactly same output: > > ii libsane-hpaio:amd64 3.16.11+repack0-3 amd64 HP > SANE backend

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: What is given by 'dpkg -l libsane-hpaio' from both stretch machines? exactly same output: ii libsane-hpaio:amd64 3.16.11+repack0-3 amd64 HP SANE backend for multi-function peripherals best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 13:52:29 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > Here are the outputs of scanimage on my desktop: > >scanimage: open of device > hpaio:/net/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M227-M231?ip=192.168.1.41 failed: Error during > device I/O >scanimage: open of device > hpaio:/net/laserjet_mfp_m

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 13:52:29 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 11:16:34 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > The URIs with "queue=false" indicate that your desktop and laptop have > > > discovered the MFDs from their DNS-SD (Bonjour) broadca

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 11:16:34 +0100, Brian wrote: The URIs with "queue=false" indicate that your desktop and laptop have discovered the MFDs from their DNS-SD (Bonjour) broadcasts. Your wife's laptop does not do such a discovery. This implies that there is so

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 11:16:34 +0100, Brian wrote: > The URIs with "queue=false" indicate that your desktop and laptop have > discovered the MFDs from their DNS-SD (Bonjour) broadcasts. Your wife's > laptop does not do such a discovery. This implies that there is some > issue with avahi-daemon on

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-31 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Jul 2019 at 00:35:51 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: > > > The outputs of 'scanimage -L' from each machine were asked for. They > > provide information you have not given. > > > > -- > > Brian. > > > hi brian, > I thought that they don't provide mo

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Brian wrote: The outputs of 'scanimage -L' from each machine were asked for. They provide information you have not given. -- Brian. hi brian, I thought that they don't provide more information than what I wrote previously, (on my desktop(buster) and my laptop (amd64/

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-30 Thread Brian
On Tue 30 Jul 2019 at 18:54:46 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > Brian wrote: > what does scanimage -L ... > > hi Brian, > (sorry for the delay) > on my desktop(buster) and my laptop (amd64/stretch), both devices are listed. > on my wife's laptop(amd64/stretch), only the laserjet, and as I sa

xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-30 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
Brian wrote: what does scanimage -L ... hi Brian, (sorry for the delay) on my desktop(buster) and my laptop (amd64/stretch), both devices are listed. on my wife's laptop(amd64/stretch), only the laserjet, and as I said scanning works... Then, the problem is not with the device, but with t

Re: xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-26 Thread Brian
On Fri 26 Jul 2019 at 12:58:25 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > I have 2 all-in-one printers > - hp laserjet pro > - hp envy > And I have different behaviours on different computers: > > - on my desktop (debian/buster), xsane list both correctly > but scanning doesn't work on the laserj

xsane: incoherent behaviours

2019-07-26 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
hi, I have 2 all-in-one printers - hp laserjet pro - hp envy And I have different behaviours on different computers: - on my desktop (debian/buster), xsane list both correctly but scanning doesn't work on the laserjet: " failed to open device ..." - on my laptop, same thing - on my wif