Re: [Sid] Nouveau: only one monitor after 6.6.15 to 6.7.9 upgrade

2025-03-12 Thread Felix Miata
orce GTX 750. When running > Bookworm kernel 6.1.0-31-amd64 all monitor work as expected. After > switching to Sid kernel 6.12.16-amd64 HDMI-2 status is disconnected and > one of the monitors is blank. I have a GK107 with a different but likely related problem, and with identical timing:

Re: [Sid] Nouveau: only one monitor after 6.6.15 to 6.7.9 upgrade

2025-03-12 Thread Greg
On 4/3/24 21:39, Greg wrote: Hi there, I have two HP Z30i connected to Nvidia GeForce GTX 670. After last upgrade I'm able to use only one monitor. When running linux-image-6.7.9: # dmesg | grep nouveau | cut -b 16- nouveau :01:00.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console nouveau :01

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > And for those who are wondering, this is going on in trixie. [...] > The quick fix in sources.list for debian is to add signed-by into > existing lines after deb or deb-src: > > deb \ > [

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:53:49AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each >sources.list entry. That you'll prob

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Also, there is https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList . Regards, Jörg.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Another option would be to retain all comments, and let the user > > manually convert commented out entries. Simple, easy to do, and only a > > little obnoxious for the user. > > > > And for those who are

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:53:49 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094784 -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:30:02 + Joe wrote: > Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-beta.list > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list > -

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread songbird
Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: >> when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing >> a test run to see what changes are made or not making the >> changes at that time. >> >> when goi

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost > >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each > >sources.list entry. That you'll probably have to add on your own. > > It even tells you that!

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:22:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed to be an 'apt modernize-sources' sub-command, w

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:09:37 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + > Joe wrote: > > > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > > /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a s

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread The Wanderer
gt; yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people > scrambling to convert at the last minute. I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed t

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:09:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to convert at the last minute. Yes, current version prompts on what to do.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > /etc/sources.list.d containing: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to co

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:54:28 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > >> Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be > >> addressed since from what I understand you are basically ask

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 06, 2025, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for other

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted in

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > >

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > inactive deb822 files, which seems l

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: > when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing > a test run to see what changes are made or not making the > changes at that time. > > when going through this process the comments in > sources.list

testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread songbird
when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing a test run to see what changes are made or not making the changes at that time. when going through this process the comments in sources.list were discarded. i don't know about other people or what they put in sources.list,

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread songbird
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM GMT, songbird wrote: >> Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... >> update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format >> already installed by openjdk-9 > > What do you have in /usr/share/binfmts ?

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM GMT, songbird wrote: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 What do you have in /usr/share/binfmts ? -- Please do not CC me for listmail

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: ... > In my case these days, I have two things I would do to take a poke at > this in hopes something obvious presents itself: > > $ apt-cache policy openjdk-9 > > I might even try the much busier "apt-cache policy openjdk-*" to see if > anything else is lingering. My setup

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2025 17:52, songbird wrote: update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 Likely it is related to running of .jar files without explicit java command. In a similar way wine may install a handler for .exe files in addition to

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
's rationale on auto vs manual gets iffy there (for me) because an "apt-get install" of the kernel is marked as auto. Litmus test was to run "apt-mark showmanual gimp" which shows as a manual install when gimp's manually installed the same way as my first kernels' &

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 05:52:34 -0500 songbird wrote: Hello songbird, >warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already >installed by openjdk-9 I've seen similar messages. Certainly about openjdk, maybe others, I can't recall. As everything seems to be working as expected, I don

debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
during this morning's update run: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 ? what does this mean to you? songbird

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-23 Thread Marco Möller
On 1/23/25 00:14, didier gaumet wrote: Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread didier gaumet
Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correc

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Marco Möller
On 1/22/25 23:12, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in  linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 curr

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Marco Möller
On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correctly, that the rt-kernels like the one you ment

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread didier gaumet
Le 22/01/2025 à 23:23, didier gaumet a écrit : [...) DAW usage and I don not think he was not using backports) [...) I did not take time to read myself before posting, sorry: "I do not think he was using backports" is more correct ;-)

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread didier gaumet
Le 22/01/2025 à 21:48, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 01:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's not yet clear to me whether you're trying to use a backported kernel because you *need* it, or because it has a higher number and you think higher numbers are better. I would like to optimize my laptop f

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 currently already having appeared in the ex

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Marco Möller
On 1/22/25 22:32, Michael Stone wrote: I think the problem here is a misunderstanding of how backports work: they're not "the latest kernel", they're "the latest kernel from debian testing". You're not going to see a kernel in backports that's not going to be in trixie until after the trixie re

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:24PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: Well, I thought that some easy receipt would pop up as an answer to my question on how to achieve such automatic upgrades. As this did not happen I conclude that the wished procedure is not so common and not readily worked out by now

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Marco Möller
ically receive all future 6.12 backport versions the same as Trixie, when stable, would also care for it. I would have as up-to-date as possible kernel 6.12 in my Bookworm for my audio optimizations, and I would stay in a good position to later on upgrade to Trixie. If Debian insiders wo

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
> > I want to install the currently highest version of kernel 6.12 from > bookworm-backports to my Bookworm. Upon some "apt update && apt upgrade" I > want this kernel to become upgraded whenever in backports becomes available > a higher version of kernel 6.12, like having

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/01/2025 03:17, Marco Möller wrote: Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream L

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
re created by hand, whenever someone feels like doing so. When you install one, you are cherry-picking it from the available set, manually. The backported kernel that you install will not necessarily receive any security updates, or bug fixes, or anything. > Upon some "apt update &&

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Marco Möller
some "apt update && apt upgrade" I want this kernel to become upgraded whenever in backports becomes available a higher version of kernel 6.12, like having 6.12.9 and getting 6.12.10. But I do not want this upgrade to step up to the 6.13 versions. For comfortably running

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread George at Clug
Marco, I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what it is that you are asking. Can you please give more explanation? You said: "not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgrade to some higher kernel version like 6.13 when they would also become avai

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Marco Möller
t;apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgrade to some higher kernel version like 6.13 when they would also become available in backports? Thanks a lot in advance! Talby. Hi It is very likely that Debian will stick with 6.12 thougho

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 09:17:52PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > Hello community! > Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for > applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm > Backports when doing "apt update &&

Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

2025-01-21 Thread Marco Möller
Hello community! Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgr

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-27 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Thu, 2024-12-26 at 13:52 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Thomas Anderson writes: > > Almost all the applications I use are non-debian (postfix, dovecot, > > apache, mysql, etc..) > > Why? All of those are in Debian. If you were using the Debian packages > upgrading would be easy. To nitpick, I do

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-26 Thread Max Nikulin
(bookworm)" suggests apt list '?narrow(?installed, ?not(?origin(Debian)))' to be sure. In addition you may review for 3rd party repositories output of apt policy You may try to replicate your setup in a VM and to upgrade it at first.

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-26 Thread John Hasler
Thomas Anderson writes: > Almost all the applications I use are non-debian (postfix, dovecot, > apache, mysql, etc..) Why? All of those are in Debian. If you were using the Debian packages upgrading would be easy. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-26 Thread Thomas Anderson
erson wrote: I have been delayed with upgrading my debian distro, and want to upgrade to 12. According to the documentation, I should remove all non-debian applications first, before upgrading. Almost all the applications I use are non-debian (postfix, dovecot, apache, mysql, etc..), so it almost

Re: upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-26 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 07:39:23PM +0100, Thomas Anderson wrote: > I have been delayed with upgrading my debian distro, and want to upgrade to > 12. According to the documentation, I should remove all non-debian > applications first, before upgrading. Almost all the applications

upgrade debian + postfix/dovecot

2024-12-26 Thread Thomas Anderson
Hello Debian-users, I have been delayed with upgrading my debian distro, and want to upgrade to 12. According to the documentation, I should remove all non-debian applications first, before upgrading. Almost all the applications I use are non-debian (postfix, dovecot, apache, mysql, etc

Re: Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-24 Thread Richard Owlett
. Confident in my skills? Yeah, I'd say so. Though there's a whole lot of stuff I'd rather not have to bother with to get things functional ... I'd much rather let the software set all of this up. .... I need to upgrade, anyhow. Having gone through the whole upgrade of Debian on

Re: Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-23 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
nfident in my skills? Yeah, I'd say so. Though there's a whole > > lot of stuff I'd rather not have to bother with to get things functional ... > > I'd much rather let the software set all of this up. > > > > I need to upgrade, anyhow. Having g

Install vs Upgrade --was [Re: new computer arriving soon]

2024-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
bother with to get things functional ... I'd much rather let the software set all of this up. .... I need to upgrade, anyhow. Having gone through the whole upgrade of Debian once on this box, I'd rather not go through that again multiple times, so I'm going to just install 12.so

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-22 Thread Tim Woodall
would say then 'replacing') of such cases? User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. apt list --replaceable apt upgrade --no-replaceable :-) Note that it could be replacement from configured alt

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:04:42PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > That's what I do too. > > +~tjw12r1 > if I've patched the current version. > ~tjw12r1 if I've backported a higher version. > > I scan for newer versions in debian and auto-rebase my changes (unless > the rebase fails) so I'm rarely mo

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Tim Woodall
packages for testing at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays tricks on me:-). I think you should change the package version

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-20 Thread Anssi Saari
Patrice Duroux writes: > But could it be the a nice feature for apt to have a list apart on the > upgrading > (I would say then 'replacing') of such cases? > User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a > same version could be replaced b

Early Black Friday. Upgrade Your Safe Game!

2024-11-19 Thread Pendleton
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Re: Bookworm Upgrade failed for iwlwifi

2024-11-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon 18 Nov 2024 at 14:10:00 (+0100), Klaus Singvogel wrote: > > Yesterday I upgraded my Debian Bookworm on my Thinkpad T14 Gen4 laptop. > > After rebooting I lost my wifi. > > dmesg reported that the iwlwifi module failed with ucode (-2). > I finally fixed it by installing the iwlwifi-firmwar

Re: Bookworm Upgrade failed for iwlwifi

2024-11-18 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-11-18, Klaus Singvogel wrote: > I finally fixed it by installing the iwlwifi-firmware package from > bookworm-backports: > apt install -t bookworm-backports iwlwifi-firmware You mean apt install -t bookworm-backports firmware-iwlwifi

Bookworm Upgrade failed for iwlwifi

2024-11-18 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Hello, Yesterday I upgraded my Debian Bookworm on my Thinkpad T14 Gen4 laptop. After rebooting I lost my wifi. dmesg reported that the iwlwifi module failed with ucode (-2). I finally fixed it by installing the iwlwifi-firmware package from bookworm-backports: apt install -t bookworm-ba

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-17 Thread tomas
e feature for apt to have a list apart on the > upgrading > (I would say then 'replacing') of such cases? > User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a > same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. > apt list --replaceable >

Re: Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread Patrice Duroux
27;) of such cases? User can be alerted more easily during apt upgrade that some packages with a same version could be replaced by the Debian archive ones. apt list --replaceable apt upgrade --no-replaceable :-) Note that it could be replacement from configured alternative source archives. Regards, Patrice

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
r testing > > > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade > > > will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I > > > did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays > > > tricks on me

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 16 Nov 2024 at 15:54:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 03:11:37PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > > > > On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing > > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that

Re: question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 03:11:37PM +0100, Patrice Duroux wrote: > Hi, > > On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing > at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade > will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archi

question about apt upgrade facing locally build packages

2024-11-16 Thread Patrice Duroux
Hi, On Sid, building and installing locally modified packages for testing at the same version as in the archive, I am surprised that apt upgrade will reinstall any of those installed by the one from the archive. I did not remember such a "feature" in the past, unless my memory plays tr

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-31 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 31.10.2024 08:50, William Torrez Corea wrote: My system was Windows, I am using Debian 6.1.112-1 (2024-09-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux but my BIOS is out-of-date; i have the BIOS A07 of the following date: *11/14/2013 * The last BIOS in this system (Dell Inspiron 14R 5437) was: 1. Version: A12,

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-31 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 09:36:05AM CET, Sven Hoexter said: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:50:54PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > > My system was Windows, I am using Debian 6.1.112-1 (2024-09-30) x86_64 > > GNU/Linux but my BIOS is out-of-date; i have the BIOS A07 of the following > > date: > >

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-31 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 09:50:54PM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My system was Windows, I am using Debian 6.1.112-1 (2024-09-30) x86_64 > GNU/Linux but my BIOS is out-of-date; i have the BIOS A07 of the following > date: > > > *11/14/2013 * > > The last BIOS in this system (Dell Inspiron

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-31 Thread didier gaumet
Le 31/10/2024 à 04:50, William Torrez Corea a écrit : Dell Inspiron 14R 5437 Hello, Dell website offers instructions to flash the BIOS without Windows: one has to make a bootable DOS USBkey: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/inspiron-14r-5437/drivers FreeDOS US

Re: How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-30 Thread John Hasler
Don't, if the one you have does everything you need it to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

How to can upgrade my BIOS?

2024-10-30 Thread William Torrez Corea
My system was Windows, I am using Debian 6.1.112-1 (2024-09-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux but my BIOS is out-of-date; i have the BIOS A07 of the following date: *11/14/2013 * The last BIOS in this system (Dell Inspiron 14R 5437) was: 1. Version: A12, A12 2. Release date: 27 Sep 201 3. Importanc

Re: How to run 'pkg upgrade' as requested by apt?

2024-10-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/10/2024 22:33, Michael Kjörling wrote: $ sudo grep -rvh '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list* | grep -v '^$' $ apt policy gives apt point of view, including pinning, and so it is more reliable. I admit it is more verbose. My impression is that variant of command with no package (to get overvie

Re: How to run 'pkg upgrade' as requested by apt?

2024-10-28 Thread Chris Green
Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 28 Oct 2024 14:36 +, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > > I recently did an 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' on my bookworm system. > > > > In the 'apt upgrade' output there is the following:- > > > >

Re: How to run 'pkg upgrade' as requested by apt?

2024-10-28 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 28 Oct 2024 14:36 +, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > I recently did an 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' on my bookworm system. > > In the 'apt upgrade' output there is the following:- > > Setting up python (3.12.7-1) ... Please do

Re: How to run 'pkg upgrade' as requested by apt?

2024-10-28 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Hello Chris, Am Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 02:36:55PM + schrieb Chris Green: > I recently did an 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' on my bookworm system. > > In the 'apt upgrade' output there is the following:- > > Setting up python (3.12.7-1) ... >

How to run 'pkg upgrade' as requested by apt?

2024-10-28 Thread Chris Green
I recently did an 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' on my bookworm system. In the 'apt upgrade' output there is the following:- Setting up python (3.12.7-1) ... NOTE: The system python package has been updated to 3.12. NOTE: Run 'pkg upgrade' to

Re: apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm

2024-10-25 Thread aces and eights
OK, It will be some simple thing. I have the original install backed up somewhere so will compare the configurations. I found out what "source" does. Thanks to Karl also for the Mutt, msmtp tips. cheers mick On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 at 13:08, Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-10-24, aces and eights wro

Re: apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm

2024-10-25 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-10-24, aces and eights wrote: > ~$ systemctl status apache2.service [...] Your config is ok. >> > $ apache2 -V I miss this point: you should use apachectl -V or apache2ctl -V if you want to look at your running apache with all default values set

Re: apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm

2024-10-24 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-10-23, aces and eights wrote: > $ apache2 -V > [Wed Oct 23 08:57:39.760030 2024] [core:warn] [pid 4112:tid 4112] AH00111: > Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined > apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: > DefaultRuntimeDir must be a valid directory, absol

Re: roundcube (Was: apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm)

2024-10-24 Thread Karl Vogel
On Thu 24 Oct 2024 at 08:35:32 (-0400), aces and eights wrote: > I would like to get roundcube back working as Mutt although being ever so > quick seems to have quite a lot of daunting options and not brave enough > to try to send with. It's not that bad. For this message, I pressed 'r' for rep

Re: Why does "apt-get upgrade {package}" upgrade all packages instead of error?

2024-10-24 Thread Aldo Maggi
Actually the english version of "man apt-get" in the case of "upgrade" writes the following: upgrade    upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in /etc/apt/sources.list

Re: Why does "apt-get upgrade {package}" upgrade all packages instead of error?

2024-10-24 Thread David Wright
s". However, passing a package name to > "apt-get upgrade" results in the argument being ignored and all packages > upgraded. > > Is there some reason that this is the case? Is it a bug that has > always existed and never fixed? I can't provoke this bug, so w

Why does "apt-get upgrade {package}" upgrade all packages instead of error?

2024-10-24 Thread Daniel Roberts
Hello, I've run into this a few times over the years and it can be a headache to resolve. Passing a package name to "apt-get update" results in the response "E: The update command takes no arguments". However, passing a package name to "apt-get upgrade" result

Re: Why does "apt-get upgrade {package}" upgrade all packages instead of error?

2024-10-24 Thread Felix Miata
;. However, passing a package name to > "apt-get upgrade" results in the argument being ignored and all packages > upgraded. > Is there some reason that this is the case? Is it a bug that has > always existed and never fixed? It's not like dnf or zypper or urpmi. If you w

Re: Why does "apt-get upgrade {package}" upgrade all packages instead of error?

2024-10-24 Thread Frank Weißer
Hello Daniel, # man apt-get (german translation) doesn't tell anything else. apt-get upgrade upgrades ALL installed packages. Kind regards Frank Daniel Roberts: Hello, I've run into this a few times over the years and it can be a headache to resolve. Passing a package name t

Re: apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm

2024-10-24 Thread aces and eights
I would like to get roundcube back working as Mutt although being ever so quick seems to have quite a lot of daunting options and not brave enough to try to send with. ~$ systemctl status apache2.service ● apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apache2.se

apache2 error after upgrade Buster->Bookworm

2024-10-23 Thread aces and eights
this email may go anywhere. After putting it off for ages I upgraded the PC that does Dovecot, Roundcube and some other things from Buster to Bookworm. There seems to be an error with apache2. The apache2 index file I made as a page of links to things on the server. Likely you are not supposed to d

Re: Help upgrade to JDK-21

2024-09-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Arbol One wrote: > I'd like to upgrade from JDK-17 to JDK-21. > Since I am new to, well, Linux in general, I'd like to know from anyone > who'd done this upgrade if this would be OK under Debian 12 (No > free-firmwarepackages please). > Any advice would be much ap

Help upgrade to JDK-21

2024-09-06 Thread Arbol One
I'd like to upgrade from JDK-17 to JDK-21. Since I am new to, well, Linux in general, I'd like to know from anyone who'd done this upgrade if this would be OK under Debian 12 (No free-firmwarepackages please). Any advice would be much appreciated. -- */ArbolOne ™/* Usi

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-28 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
See also Debian Reference Chapter 2. Debian package management 2.2.1. apt vs. apt-get / apt-cache vs. aptitude https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_literal_vs_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal Regards, J

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2024 at 20:32:04 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 21:03:02 +0200 Hans wrote: > > First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. > > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good > > job. > > So, my question is: Which one is

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Jeffrey Walton
pt-get. > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get full-upgrade does a good job. > > However, we also have aptitude, but > aptitude update, aptitude upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade are doing also a > good job, but not the same as apt-get does. Also it looks, aptitude update &g

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:25:20AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 28/8/24 03:03, Hans wrote: > > So, my question is: Which one is recommended, when updating and upgrading is > > used in a script, so that it causes as little as possible pain? […] > apt update &&

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Bret Busby
On 28/8/24 03:03, Hans wrote: Dear list, over the many years we got different tools for upgrading debian in the commandline. These tools behave differently and also we get different results, when eecuting. First, we have the oldest, whcih is apt-get. apt-get update, apt-get upgrade or apt-get

Re: Which tool for upgrade in commandline?

2024-08-27 Thread Michael Kjörling
ses/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full `apt` is named as the primary tool and the example command lines use it; `apt-get` is mentioned in a couple of corresponding no

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