Ralf Mardorf writes:
> spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/
> total 32
> -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 B22OCT11.CMO
> -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Sep 30 2011 B30SEP11.CMO
> -rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 15644 Nov 10 2011 Hakle-Geld-zurück.o
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> If the clock does use local time, then the time for all BIOS and all
> Linux files are ok.
This is not completely true. If there is change from/to daylight
saving time to/from standard time between saving the files using the
BIOS and booting your Linux system the kernel w
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the
> files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither
> Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linux, so Linux can't
> "translate" UTC to local time, when I save BIOS settings.
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 21:22 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> There are also services that become quite distressed if the clock
> jumps back an hour.
OIC
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Ralf Mardorf writes:
> That's not true, after running ntpdate everything is ok.
Except for anything that happened before ntpdate ran, such as writing
logs. And if ntpdate never runs because it can't reach a server you're
an hour off. There are also services that become quite distressed if
the cl
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 16:01 -0800, unruh wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> >
> > Exactly, there are no issues when using Linux with the hardware clock
> > using local time.
>
> Yes, there are. If the clock is on localtime, when Linux boots up it
> assumes that the bios clock really is on
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: [snip]
spinymouse@q:~$ ls -l /media/spinymouse/INTENSO/
total 32
-rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Oct 22 2011 B22OCT11.CMO
-rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 304 Sep 30 2011 B30SEP11.CMO
-rw-r--r-- 1 spinymouse spinymouse 15644 No
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:31 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> Or think of banking transactions or stock exchange transactions.
I guess something like this really is an issue, but I also suspect that
this anyway will be handled by special software.
Thank you for the explanation,
Ralf
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On Wednesday 28 November 2012 16:18:30 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> > On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote:
> > >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 10:40 -0800, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote:
> >> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> >> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft ne
On 28 November 2012 09:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote:
>> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
>> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the
>> >> world has more time zones
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:17 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote:
> > > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600:
> > > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the
> > >
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600:
> > > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the
> > > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's nei
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:48 -0600, green wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600:
> > If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the
> > files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither
> > Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linu
Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2012-11-28 11:04 -0600:
> If I save BIOS settings as a file and the hwclock is set to UTC, the
> files don't get the German time. The BIOS is the BIOS, it's neither
> Windows, I don't use Windows, but nor the BIOS is Linux, so Linux can't
> "translate" UTC to local time, when
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:45 -0800, unruh wrote:
> In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> >> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the
> >> world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times.
> >
> > Th
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 08:44 -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> Yep. Unfortunately Microsoft never learned in > 25 years that the
> world has more time zones than they might have imagined in DOS-times.
They did and as I already explained, I want to have the local time for
the BIOS too.
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On Mi, 28 nov 12, 08:44:59, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> So I learned to ignore the time on Windows systems with double boot.
Set it to UTC, that way it is at least partially useful.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Wednesday 28 November 2012 07:37:49 Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:55:16PM +0530, J. B wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > My box is configured to the local time zone from beginning, both hwclock
> > and system time. But linux always favor hwclock to UTC. What is the
> > advantage
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