Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Brian wrote: > And again: >> I have a patch for that at: >> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/4128 >> >> I might upload this soon. The intention is still to ship Buster >> with TLS 1.0 and 1.1 completly disabled. > Couldn't be clearer. The maintainer does not plan to switch back to > TLS1

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Brian
On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 09:33:59 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Grant wrote: > > > If this patch won't go to Stretch as a security fix, then the world is > > hidden from this until Buster comes out in about 2 years. > > Exactly. Read the discussion(s) in debian-devel about this. The last > i

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 10:20:22AM +0100, Michael Grant wrote: > > First, this LD_PRELOAD library does exactly one thing - it downgrades > > default TLS version to TLS1.0. If your users have the trouble connecting > > to your mailserver because their clients cannot do TLS1.2 and that's

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Michael Grant
> First, this LD_PRELOAD library does exactly one thing - it downgrades > default TLS version to TLS1.0. If your users have the trouble connecting > to your mailserver because their clients cannot do TLS1.2 and that's the > only thing your mailserver advertizes - your users still won't be able > to

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 05:23:11PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. [...] > So I got bored and wrote the thing today. A customary disclaimer > follows: Wow. That was quick. Although I'm probably not going to use it: - hey, thanks a bunch! - I'm sur

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Reco wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 10:50:00PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote: >> What is the right way for an admin to handle this problem on Debian >> Testing? > The only thing they told me back in the day was 'if you have to do a > server - you use Debian stable'. This openssl incident and may

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Grant wrote: > Nifty, been a while since I used the LD_PRELOAD trick myself. > This whole thing has been bothering me over the last couple days. Why > are so few people having this issue? 18 or so posts on this, only 3 > or so of us have done anything about this. I backed out libssl (

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-08 Thread Reco
On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 10:50:00PM +0100, Michael Grant wrote: > Nifty, been a while since I used the LD_PRELOAD trick myself. > > This whole thing has been bothering me over the last couple days. Why > are so few people having this issue? There are few that are running servers on Debian testing

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-07 Thread Michael Grant
Nifty, been a while since I used the LD_PRELOAD trick myself. This whole thing has been bothering me over the last couple days. Why are so few people having this issue? 18 or so posts on this, only 3 or so of us have done anything about this. I backed out libssl (and pinned it). Reco makes a L

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 08:57:53PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:57:09AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > Isn't there any LD_PRELOAD trick one could play? [...] > > > There'll be once someone writes it. Maybe I'll do it this weekend. >

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 06:01:18PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:57:09AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Isn't there any LD_PRELOAD trick one could play? [...] > There'll be once someone writes it. Maybe I'l

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Sep 06, 2017 at 09:57:09AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:40:46PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > > Michael Grant wrote: > > > > > Is there something I can set on Debian side to force this newer > > > openssl to accept older 1.x connections? > > > >

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-06 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Grant wrote: > I downloaded libssl1.1_1.1.0f-3_amd64.deb > and did: > dpkg -i libssl1.1_1.1.0f-3_amd64.deb > restarted sendmail and dovecot and everyone can now connect. Be sure to either pin or hold the package at that version: "apt-mark hold libssl" or the next "apt dist-upgrade" wi

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:40:46PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Grant wrote: > > > Is there something I can set on Debian side to force this newer > > openssl to accept older 1.x connections? > > No, you can't. > > Kurt Roeckx, the DD mainta

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread songbird
Michael Grant wrote: ... > I was surprised that this problem affected fairly recent MacOS and > Windows Outlook users. I was also surprised that not many people had > reported this and as I continued to google around for this, I found > only this chain of posts! And this has been in the wild now

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Grant
On 5 September 2017 at 22:40, Sven Hartge wrote: > Michael Grant wrote: > >> Is there something I can set on Debian side to force this newer >> openssl to accept older 1.x connections? > > No, you can't. > > Kurt Roeckx, the DD maintaining OpenSSL, patched it in such a way that a > program needs

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Grant
On 5 September 2017 at 20:29, Michael Grant wrote: > On 5 September 2017 at 19:15, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 05 September 2017 13:40:00 Michael Grant wrote: >> >>> I upgraded openssl today in my server running testing. It installed >>> version 1.1.0f-5. To my surprise, my mac clients ca

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Sven Hartge
Michael Grant wrote: > Is there something I can set on Debian side to force this newer > openssl to accept older 1.x connections? No, you can't. Kurt Roeckx, the DD maintaining OpenSSL, patched it in such a way that a program needs to call a special function of OpenSSL to override the default m

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Grant
On 5 September 2017 at 19:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 05 September 2017 13:40:00 Michael Grant wrote: > >> I upgraded openssl today in my server running testing. It installed >> version 1.1.0f-5. To my surprise, my mac clients can no longer send >> and receive email! >> > As that is a s

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 05 September 2017 13:40:00 Michael Grant wrote: > I upgraded openssl today in my server running testing. It installed > version 1.1.0f-5. To my surprise, my mac clients can no longer send > and receive email! > As that is a security related upgrade, I would next push the Mac people t

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Grant
I upgraded openssl today in my server running testing. It installed version 1.1.0f-5. To my surprise, my mac clients can no longer send and receive email! How do I roll back to the previous version of openssl? "apt-cache showpkg openssl" only shows version 1.1.0f-5. apt install openssl=1.1.0f-

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-15 Thread songbird
Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Mo, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:02:40 -0400, songbird wrote: >> may break your getting of mail process. >>(i'm using getmail). >> >> luckily downgrading the two packages restores >>things to working again. >> >> no time right now for me to find the magic >>words to fiddle with

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-15 Thread Kamil Jońca
Sven Hartge writes: > Kamil Jońca wrote: >> Stephan Seitz writes: > [...] > >> It is also break lot of other thigs: for example: my radius server >> start to refuse to authenticate win8 and win8 clients and android >> tablets. > > Windows 8, too? It would be nice if you could add this to the th

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-14 Thread Sven Hartge
Kamil Jońca wrote: > Stephan Seitz writes: >> As announced the new version of openssl has disabled TLSv1 and >> TLSv1.1 leaving only TLSv1.2. So if you have an old server without >> TLSv1.2, you can’t connect anymore. > It is also break lot of other thigs: for example: my radius server > start

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-14 Thread Kamil Jońca
Stephan Seitz writes: > On Mo, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:02:40 -0400, songbird wrote: >> may break your getting of mail process. >>(i'm using getmail). >> >> luckily downgrading the two packages restores >>things to working again. >> >> no time right now for me to find the magic >>words to fiddle wit

Re: testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-14 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mo, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:02:40 -0400, songbird wrote: may break your getting of mail process. (i'm using getmail). luckily downgrading the two packages restores things to working again. no time right now for me to find the magic words to fiddle with to allow this to go through. As announc

testing, upgrade of openssl libssl1.1 ( 1.1.0f-3 => 1.1.0f-4 )

2017-08-14 Thread songbird
fyi, may break your getting of mail process. (i'm using getmail). luckily downgrading the two packages restores things to working again. no time right now for me to find the magic words to fiddle with to allow this to go through. songbird