Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Mon 28 Mar 2016 at 17:02:46 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 28 March 2016 16:37:16 David Wright wrote: > > I'm not interested > > in spending my time answering your easy-to-pose rhetorical questions > > The whole point of rhetorical questions is that they are not in fact > questions >

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 28 March 2016 16:37:16 David Wright wrote: > I'm not interested > in spending my time answering your easy-to-pose rhetorical questions The whole point of rhetorical questions is that they are not in fact questions and do not require an answer, and more than any other type of statement.

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Mon 28 Mar 2016 at 20:58:13 (+1300), chrisb@localhost.localdomain wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:00:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Now, every time there's a security fix, you're going to be quizzed > > over what to do about your modified configuration file because Debian > > wants to o

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-28 Thread chrisb
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:00:53AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Now, every time there's a security fix, you're going to be quizzed > over what to do about your modified configuration file because Debian > wants to overwrite your modified /etc/systemd/system/foo.target. Umm, guess what the normal c

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Wed 23 Mar 2016 at 08:16:18 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David Wright writes: > > you have to take on trust, or check, that bar="some value" is > > the default configured, or set elsewhere, for foo. OTOH, when > > you copy /lib/systemd/system/... to /etc, you know you've got > > hold of the def

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-23 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > you have to take on trust, or check, that bar="some value" is > the default configured, or set elsewhere, for foo. OTOH, when > you copy /lib/systemd/system/... to /etc, you know you've got > hold of the default configuration. IOW, it's self-documenting. Why is that better t

Re: systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-23 Thread David Wright
On Wed 23 Mar 2016 at 21:53:15 (+1300), chrisb@localhost.localdomain wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:44:24AM -0700, Lotek wrote: > > On 03/19/2016 05:40 AM, lina wrote: > > >Every time since I installed the system, > > > > > >every time I tried Shut Down, it mainly restart again. > > > > > >I c

systemd troubleshooting (was ... Re: computer cann't shut down)

2016-03-23 Thread chrisb
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:44:24AM -0700, Lotek wrote: > On 03/19/2016 05:40 AM, lina wrote: > >Every time since I installed the system, > > > >every time I tried Shut Down, it mainly restart again. > > > >I checked online and tried several methods but still don't work. > > > >Can anyone suggest me