Re: Running without X was: Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 June 2016 15:32:14 David Wright wrote: > I did discover that it's obvious if you try to Xorg -configure > while X is running There's a hole in the bucket, dear Eliza This is why I was trying to do it at single user level, to be *certain* that X wasn't running. :-) X is there,

Re: Running without X was: Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 03 Jun 2016 at 10:28:32 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 June 2016 10:07:13 Lisi Reisz wrote: > >  I wanted to log in without X > > and runlevel 1 has no X. > > So I next tried to shut X down. I have tried this before without success, so > I googled again, and gathered that what

Re: Running without X was: Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Dan Purgert
Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 03 June 2016 10:07:13 Lisi Reisz wrote: >>  I wanted to log in without X >> and runlevel 1 has no X. > > So I next tried to shut X down. I have tried this before without success, so > I googled again, and gathered that what I needed to do in fact was shut down > my

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 June 2016 09:59:29 Lisi Reisz wrote: > I didn't know what foo was anyway. I meant that I didn't know specifically what foo was in that context. Lisi

Running without X was: Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 June 2016 10:07:13 Lisi Reisz wrote: >  I wanted to log in without X > and runlevel 1 has no X. So I next tried to shut X down. I have tried this before without success, so I googled again, and gathered that what I needed to do in fact was shut down my dm. See: https://wiki.debia

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 June 2016 18:52:40 David Wright wrote: > AIUI one can configure a box to run X in all runlevels but 1; > however, there's no need to do it that way. None of my machines > run X automatically at runlevel 2: I have to use startx. This is indubitably true, but irrelevant to the proble

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 June 2016 14:43:29 Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hector wrote: > > >> On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > >> > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 June 2016 23:07:55 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 May 2016 at 20:31:32 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 31 March 2016 15:08:24 Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 13:27:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-02 Thread Dan Purgert
David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2016 at 14:47:11 (-), Dan Purgert wrote: >> [snip] >> >> I came "late" to the party myself, and missed the post where I imagine >> why Lisi is after runlevel 1. >> >> Personally, with the exception of my laptop, everything starts in >> runlevel 3 here. >

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 May 2016 at 20:31:32 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 31 March 2016 15:08:24 Brian wrote: > > On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 13:27:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > 1. Each computer should have an SSH server running (on Deb

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2016 at 14:47:11 (-), Dan Purgert wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > --001a114056c6437ae5053437ad41 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > > > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hecto

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Dan Purgert
Mark Fletcher wrote: > --001a114056c6437ae5053437ad41 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hector wrote: >> >> On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> > Now to do what

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 9:10 PM Dan Purgert wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run > level > >> > one as root: > >> > > >> > lisi@Tux-II:

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Dan Purgert
Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hector wrote: >> On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run level >> > one as root: >> > >> > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.5 >> > ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 2

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 June 2016 01:20:52 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > The pipe symbol doesn't work on the keyboard at present attached > > Then put the output of ps in a file and search that. The small part of the problem I am trying to solve at this precise minute is that I am working almost

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/06/16 12:20, John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: >> The pipe symbol doesn't work on the keyboard at present attached > > Then put the output of ps in a file and search that. > Or for a general solution to a faulty key, since this is on the con

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-06-01 Thread Joe
On Tue, 31 May 2016 23:27:36 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2016-05-31 23:14 BST > Nmap done: 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 0.52 seconds > root@Tux-II:/home/lisi# nmap 192.168.0.5 -Pn 22 For future reference, this should have been nmap 192.168.0.5

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 01 June 2016 00:42:47 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016, at 19:25, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > ... > > Assuming that sshd is actually running at that stage, which it looks as > > though it isn't > > ... > > Looks as though I've given you mostly information that you don't need. > S

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, May 31, 2016, at 19:25, Lisi Reisz wrote: > ... > Assuming that sshd is actually running at that stage, which it looks as > though > it isn't > ... Looks as though I've given you mostly information that you don't need. Sorry about that. At the risk of doing so again, here's how you can

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:39 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016, at 15:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > ... > > So I need static IPs fast! > > ... > > (The above was actually quoted from an earlier post). > If you want to convert your computers to use static IP addresses, you might > want to

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 May 2016 23:56:02 Richard Hector wrote: > On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run level > > one as root: > > > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.5 > > ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: No route to host > > li

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, May 31, 2016, at 15:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > ... > So I need static IPs fast! > ... (The above was actually quoted from an earlier post). If you want to convert your computers to use static IP addresses, you might want to take a look at the following web page: http://www.stevesdebianstu

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Richard Hector
On 01/06/16 07:31, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run level one > as > root: > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.5 > ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: No route to host > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh lisi@192.168.0.5 Run level one? AKA single us

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 May 2016 21:51:30 Joe wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:31:32 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > --- > > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run > > level one as root: > > > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.5 > > ssh

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Joe
On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:31:32 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > --- > Now to do what I really wanted to do all along, and ssh in to run > level one as root: > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh root@192.168.0.5 > ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: No route to host >

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-05-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 31 March 2016 15:08:24 Brian wrote: > On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 13:27:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > 1. Each computer should have an SSH server running (on Debian that > > > would be package openssh-server: in Debian it has p

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread David Wright
On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 14:34:47 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:27:35PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It is installed and running. I can ssh from Eros, but not into it. If I > > just > > try to ssh from Tux-II to Eros, I get the error "Could not connect to host > >

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Lisi Reisz wrote: So I need static IPs fast! or a hosts file? That's how I do it. Only make that "or" above an "and!" Also, liberal use of public-keys practically automates the whole thing, so that you don't have to bother with pesky passwords on your private 'net.

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 02:40:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 14:38:05 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:32:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > There is also dropbear as a lightweight SSH2

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 13:27:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > 1. Each computer should have an SSH server running (on Debian that would > >be package openssh-server: in Debian it has priority "optional": I'd > >double-check that

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 14:38:05 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:32:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > There is also dropbear as a lightweight SSH2 server and client. Using > > it in preference to openssh is useful for resource constrained machines. > > Yes, ther

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:32:05PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > There is also dropbear as a lightweight SSH2 server and client. Using > it in preference to openssh is useful for resource constrained machines. Yes, there are nifty tricks like embeddin

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 01:27:35PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Great! Thankl you! I now have a starting point for my questions. > > On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > >

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Mar 2016 at 13:28:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:43:49PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I want all the computers on my private network to be able to shh into each > > other. In Jessie, what do I have to do where in what config file? > > Presumably some p

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
Great! Thankl you! I now have a starting point for my questions. On Thursday 31 March 2016 12:28:57 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:43:49PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I want all the computers on my private network to be a

Re: ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:43:49PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I want all the computers on my private network to be able to shh into each > other. In Jessie, what do I have to do where in what config file? > Presumably some port is shut?? 0. Each c

ssh-ing in inside private network

2016-03-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
I want all the computers on my private network to be able to shh into each other. In Jessie, what do I have to do where in what config file? Presumably some port is shut?? Lisi