Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-30 Thread Joe
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:58:48 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-29, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > The problem has become *MOOT*. > > >> No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means. > > > > See the 2nd definition. > > I did. Why would

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-30 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-29, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote: >> > The problem has become *MOOT*. >> No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means. > > See the 2nd definition. I did. Why would extracting information from, or converting a PDF to a spreadsheet format, suddenly

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 29, 2025 09:32:02 AM Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote: > > The problem has become *MOOT*. > > No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means. See the 2nd definition. ` moot /moo͞t/ adjective Subject to debate; arguable or unsettled. Of no practical importance;

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread john doe
Can you all please stop. -- John Doe

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-29, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: >> Nope! >> DASH is known to be pure garbage. >> -- Lee > > [citation needed] > > A quick Google search shows endorsements by U.S. News and World Report, > the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard's School of Publi

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Richard Owlett wrote: > The problem has become *MOOT*. No, it hasn't, and that's not what moot means. > As I reported elsewhere I've found the spreadsheets the PDF was based on. Did you mention spreadsheets in your original problem statement? Did you say, "I would like to conve

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > >> To be frank, given the question, he'd be significantly better off just >> asking one of the robots, where you can upload PDFs, than here, where >> people go off in any direction and seem to have permanent chips on >> their shoulders. > > Your understandi

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-29 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote: > > I started off with a degree of sympathy for what you were saying, but > you haven't managed to talk about what it is you DO want, only about > what you DON'T want. No, you're right, though I don't need your sympathy. I don't want anything because Debian Stable

corrected post -- Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/29/25 6:13 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 7/29/25 12:28 AM, Lee wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:29 AM Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Why do I ask? In my r

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > Nope! > DASH is known to be pure garbage. > -- Lee [citation needed] A quick Google search shows endorsements by U.S. News and World Report, the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard's School of Public Health.

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/29/25 12:28 AM, Lee wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:29 AM Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions, my response

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-29 Thread Lee Winter
Nope! DASH is known to be pure garbage. -- Lee On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 3:24 AM Lee wrote: > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:29 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > More explicitly: > > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by > > distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particul

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Lee
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:29 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > More explicitly: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by > distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? > > Why do I ask? > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially > "W

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Joe
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:48:34 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/28/25 1:26 PM, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) > > Greg wrote: > > > >> On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > >>> > >>> The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > >>> (limited)

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 1:26 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) Greg wrote: On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of people who don't really know about

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Thomas Dineen
Don't you people have anything productive to do??? Please stop this nonsense and get back to work! Find a useful job~! On 7/28/2025 9:37 AM, Greg wrote: On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) Greg wrote: I don't need support, and in the rare case I do

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Joe
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > > > > The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > > (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of > > people who don't really know about your exact situati

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 12:03 PM, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote: His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible, presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the fault lies w

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote: > His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he > wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible, > presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the fault lies with him, not us. Oh boy, you have just d

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg wrote: > [...] not one woman among them, to be sure, not one. None. > Not a single, single one [..] We cannot help you until you tell us maker, model and firmware version of your gender bias. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) > Greg wrote: > >> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions >> here. >> >> I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack >> exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else,

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 04:04:12PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote: > > It really depends on what you're looking for. > > I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions here. > > I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions > here. > > I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack > exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else, but *never* in the debian-list > archives, which

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote: > > I would encourage you to try some other venues for support. I don't say > that to be dismissive. I say it because it seems like the only practical > choice (and it's the choice that I think ~everyone is going to converge > on). It really depends on what you're

(Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 02:39:21PM -, Greg wrote: > Every question is non-answered by an intimate clan of aging men with > toxic attitudes and enormous anal-retention, who believe everyone > should be using mutt or gnus like them and don't know or give a shit > about anything else. > > I

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Hans
> This, precisely. They are only talking to themselves, as I have noted > previously (maybe Max N., who seems interested in this kind of > foolishness, can verify the date stamps). Every question is non-answered > by an intimate clan of aging men with toxic attitudes and enormous > anal-retention,

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-07-28): > It's really time for a change here. Everybody loves people who have been there barely more than six months and want to throw everything away. This kind of discourse evokes, more than anything else, somebody who is pissed that the answers they got for their question were al

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > > The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of > people who don't really know about your exact situation, but think > they have some valuable input. Often the same bun

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-27, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > But my main point: Asking questions is an interactive, iterative > process. For any realistically complex problem, there will be no simple > answer on the first try, in most cases. Even describing the problem > correctly will take a few tries. His questio

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 6:06 PM, Michael Paoli wrote: Ooops, meant to send to (or at least include) list: -- Forwarded message - From: Michael Paoli Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 3:25 PM Subject: Re: How to ask a question? To: Richard Owlett Why of course ask the smart way! http://catb.org

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 4:11 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 5:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions,

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 9:09 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets. Something I haven't done in close to two decades. What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 02:30:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/27/25 7:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Hi Richard, [...] > > The confused reactions should be a giveaway to you that something might > > need adjustments on your part: > > Agreed. That prompted my post. The one specific

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 8:55 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially "Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly focused question. Sometimes the "Why" you might get in return is misguided (e.g. paternalistic), but I

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 7:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi Richard, On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Asking good questions is not e

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Michael Paoli
Ooops, meant to send to (or at least include) list: -- Forwarded message - From: Michael Paoli Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 3:25 PM Subject: Re: How to ask a question? To: Richard Owlett Why of course ask the smart way! http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Uhm, yeah

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Anders Andersson
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 5:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: > > More explicitly: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by > distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? > > Why do I ask? > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially > "W

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > More explicitly: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by > distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? > > Why do I ask? > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially > "Why are you trying to do?" rathe

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility > {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? As a long time lurker, occasional poster: You can't. One large part of asking questions on practical p

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:09:05AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets. > > Something I haven't done in close to two decades. > > What I usually ended up doing w

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (HE12025-07-27): > What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre Office, > then saving it as a "CSV" (comma-separated values) file. I'm not aware > of any way to do that purely from the command line. I have in my notes somewhere: libreoffice --headless --conver

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Fred
On 7/27/25 05:33, Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially "Why are you trying to do?"

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets. > Something I haven't done in close to two decades. What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre Office, then saving it as a "CSV" (comma-s

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Why do I ask? > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially "Why > are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly > focused question. Sometimes the "Why" you might get in return is misguided (e.g. paternalistic), but I think in the present case it's becaus

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-27, Richard Owlett wrote: > > But *THE* question remains. > How to ask narrowly focused questions which will get answers in this forum? It's quite difficult because many of the people who answer questions here really don't care about your question, they only care about their answer. S

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-27 Thread tomas
Hi Richard, On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > More explicitly: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility > {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Asking good questions is not easy. You've got to wrap your brains around

Re: Suggested tools - [Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?]

2025-07-23 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-23, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> >>> For convenience of future readers - these tools have been suggested to >>> me in this thread. >>> mutool - all purpose tool for dealing with PDF files pdftk - Portable Document Format (PDF) page extractor qpdf- PDF tran

Re: Suggested tools - [Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?]

2025-07-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/23/25 11:23 AM, Greg wrote: On 2025-07-23, Richard Owlett wrote: On 7/20/25 5:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 12.8. I have a 100+ page PDF document. I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. I wish to edit those 2 files. How? [Simple question but I s

Re: Suggested tools - [Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?]

2025-07-23 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-23, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/20/25 5:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I'm running Debian 12.8. >> >> I have a 100+ page PDF document. >> I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. >> I wish to edit those 2 files. >> How? >> [Simple question but I suspect answer

Suggested tools - [Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?]

2025-07-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/20/25 5:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm running Debian 12.8. I have a 100+ page PDF document. I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. I wish to edit those 2 files. How? [Simple question but I suspect answer may not be so simple.  What I've read confuses me.] TIA

Re: how to delete my bug report

2025-07-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 07:42:10PM +0700, масляков дмитрий wrote: > how to delete my bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1107874 ? > That nothing was opened at this address. I don't think a user will be able to delete content out of the bug tracker. Practically sp

Re: how to delete my bug report

2025-07-23 Thread Dan Ritter
масляков дмитрий wrote: > Hello. > how to delete my bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1107874 ? > That nothing was opened at this address. > Don't try to delete it. Send a report to 1107...@bugs.debian.org saying: that you found the problem (and what the solution

Re: How to joind PDF files into one (was: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?)

2025-07-22 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-07-22 at 09:35 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > I used to use pdfjoin to join pdfs (though there was a bug where > > > some > > > pages would be oriented wrongly) and I needed to join some pdfs > > > recently. But there were so many dependencies for pdfjoin that I > > > decided > > > t

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-22 Thread Mike Castle
On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 5:28 AM Greg wrote: > Evince can fill in fillable forms, as can Chrome. > But evince seems the natural choice. Firefox can draw onto a PDF. When using text to draw, it allows one to make it act like a fillable form when it isn't. Evince does not seem to offer such a feat

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-22 Thread Mike Castle
Hah! Thanks for all of the Firefox follow-ups. I had stumbled across the info about fonts shortly after I posted. While printing from FF didn't work, using good old fashioned "lp" from the command line worked on the filled-and-saved PDF. I also tried moving pdfs back and forth between my home c

Re: How to joind PDF files into one (was: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?)

2025-07-22 Thread David Wright
On Mon 21 Jul 2025 at 10:38:55 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I used to use pdfjoin to join pdfs (though there was a bug where some > > pages would be oriented wrongly) and I needed to join some pdfs > > recently. But there were so many dependencies for pdfjoin that I decided > > to try pdfunit

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-22 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-21, Mike Castle wrote: > Annoyingly, I am currently trying to print a filled-form PDF with FF > and it is not working. > > When I try to print the page, it comes up with the form without all of > my filling. > > So, treat my previous comment with suspicion. Evince can fill in fillable

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2025, 21:25:36 CEST schrieb Mike Castle: > Annoyingly, I am currently trying to print a filled-form PDF with FF > and it is not working. > > When I try to print the page, it comes up with the form without all of > my filling. > > So, treat my previous comment with suspicion. >

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2025, 21:25:36 CEST schrieb Mike Castle: > Annoyingly, I am currently trying to print a filled-form PDF with FF > and it is not working. > > When I try to print the page, it comes up with the form without all of > my filling. > > So, treat my previous comment with suspicion. >

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Kent West
On 7/21/25 2:25 PM, Mike Castle wrote: Annoyingly, I am currently trying to print a filled-form PDF with FF and it is not working. When I try to print the page, it comes up with the form without all of my filling. So, treat my previous comment with suspicion. mrc I just used Firefox 140.0.

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Mike Castle
Annoyingly, I am currently trying to print a filled-form PDF with FF and it is not working. When I try to print the page, it comes up with the form without all of my filling. So, treat my previous comment with suspicion. mrc

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Mike Castle
For actually modifying PDFs, I have taken to using Firefox. It not only handles editable PDFs (those with predefined fields to type into), it can also simply overlay text and drawings. It is not likely to work for changing the wording of the document. But if you just want to avoid having to print

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-20, Hans wrote: >> > >> > How about >> > >> >mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n >> > >> > where <100-page.pdf> is the original file >> > Page-n.pdf is the one page file extracted >> > >> > See man mutool. Roger >> >> pdftk can do what you want, and more. > Try "

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/20/25 9:29 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I have a 100+ page PDF document. I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. For a simple graphical solution, try xpdf. The print option allows you to print specified pages to file. We cann

EXCELLENT solution was [Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?]

2025-07-21 Thread Richard Owlett
"pdfseparate" is the tool I need. I need to tweak content of some tables in a large PDF document. Wish I had known about it ~2 years ago. *THANK YOU* On 7/20/25 9:19 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: On 7/20/25 7:24 AM, Roger Price wrote: mutool merge -o Pa

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2025, 20:46:18 CEST schrieb Van Snyder: > On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 14:24 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > > > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > > > > How about > > >

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Van Snyder
On Sun, 2025-07-20 at 14:24 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > > How about > >    mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n > > where <100-page.pd

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > I wish to edit those 2 files. I've used Inkskape in the past to edit PDFs, and more recently LibreOffice. As a general rule, the better option is to do something else, because editing PDFs is fundamentally "wrong" so the tools ha

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. For a simple graphical solution, try xpdf. The print option allows you to print specified pages to file. We cannot help with the editing since you ha

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/20/25 7:24 AM, Roger Price wrote: > > mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n > > > > where <100-page.pdf> is the original file > >Page-n.pdf is the one page file extracted > > > Is some demo or tutorial that would clarify what it

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/20/25 7:24 AM, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I have a 100+ page PDF document. I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. How about mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n where <100-page.pdf> is the original file Page-

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-20, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Debian 12.8. > > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. > I wish to edit those 2 files. > How? > [Simple question but I suspect answer may not be so simple. > What I've read confuses me

Re: How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?

2025-07-20 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have a 100+ page PDF document. > I wish to extract 2 of those pages, each to their own PDF file. How about mutool merge -o Page-n.pdf <100-page.pdf> n where <100-page.pdf> is the original file Page-n.pdf is the one page file extracted

Re: how to delete an attached file bugs.debian.org

2025-07-04 Thread Marco Moock
On 03.07.2025 19:10 Uhr масляков дмитрий wrote: > I accidentally attached the file [$$$ (application/octet-stream, > attachment)]. How can I delete it? You can't, as it is part of the mail and that got stored at the bugtracker and maybe on other places. Although you can use the this bug log cont

Re: how to delete an attached file bugs.debian.org

2025-07-03 Thread David Christensen
On 7/3/25 09:40, масляков дмитрий wrote: Hello. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1107874 I accidentally attached the file [$$$ (application/octet-stream, attachment)]. How can I delete it? I suspect that you cannot delete an attachment to a bug report once the bug report has

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs [SOLVED]

2025-06-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Thank you all for your replies. I finally could delete them with qpdf(1) with the dedicated long-option --remove-attachment Best wishes, Jerome On 17/06/2025 19:42, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, I have a PDF file with undesirable attachments: is there a simple way to delete them ? Thanks in ad

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-06-17 at 14:43 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. > > > > The poppler-utils package contains: > >   * pdfdetach -- lists or extracts embedded files (attachments) >   * pdfseparate

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. > The poppler-utils package contains: * pdfdetach -- lists or extracts embedded files (attachments) * pdfseparate -- page extraction tool * pdfunite -- document merging tool Which tog

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 02:21:04PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jun 17, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. > > Then you're most likely stuck with it. PDF isn't really "editable" in > that sense (ignoring Adobe Acro

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jun 17, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. Then you're most likely stuck with it. PDF isn't really "editable" in that sense (ignoring Adobe Acrobat or whatever it's called). -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. On 17/06/2025 19:59, Dan Purgert wrote: On Jun 17, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, I have a PDF file with undesirable attachments: is there a simple way to delete them ? re-generate the PDF without the embedded f

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

2025-06-17 Thread Dan Purgert
On Jun 17, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > I have a PDF file with undesirable attachments: > is there a simple way to delete them ? re-generate the PDF without the embedded files. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 7

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Chris Green
Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that > > I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get > > it to mount with write permission? > > > > This is on debian 12. > > First, check to see if the SD card h

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Franco Martelli
On 10/06/25 at 18:11, Chris Green wrote: I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get it to mount with write permission? This is on debian 12. Probably is already mounted read/write but you haven't w

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that > I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get > it to mount with write permission? > > This is on debian 12. First, check to see if the SD card has a readonly switch. (Many SD card

Re: how to install debian to external USB ssd harddisk

2025-06-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/06/2025 01:09, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Unfortunately, Debian text Installer and even Camalares installer do not cooperate with my UEFI firmware. I think, installer assumes default use case with loaders for all OSes installed to the same EFI System Partition. Create another EFI System

Re: how to install debian to external USB ssd harddisk

2025-06-04 Thread David Christensen
On 6/4/25 11:09, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: Dear advanced users and developers, Debian is making so big joy to Me that I want to install it to my USB external SSD harddisk. Unfortunately, Debian text Installer and even Camalares installer do not cooperate with my UEFI firmware. So Grub is being

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Would it be ok to install "grub-pc-bin" and "grub-efi-ia32-bin" ? Steve McIntyre wrote: > Yes. That's exactly the design of the packaging here: the -bin > packages contain the binary grub code that you're looking for, and > grub-pc and grub-efi-$arch do the configuration to use o

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
Thomas wrote: > >i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need >the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi >alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi >in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. >Gentoo and Arch obviously

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > Would downloading the deb packages, then un-ar'ing them in a tmp dir > get you most of what you want? Maybe. But i was looking for a way to create BIOS+EFI grub-mkrescue ISOs by regular Debian means. To answer my own question: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/

Re: How to combine package grub-efi-amd64 with grub-efi-ia32 and grub-pc ?

2025-05-28 Thread Dan Ritter
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i am trying to reproduce a problem of grub-mkrescue. For that i need > the directories > /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc > /usr/lib/grub/i386-efi > alongside the already installed > /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi > in order to get an ISO for legacy BIOS and EFI together. > G

Re: How to set umask for apache2

2025-05-28 Thread Chris Green
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > > [service] > > UMask=0002 > > Shouldn't that square-bracket heade

Re: How to set umask for apache2

2025-05-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > [service] > UMask=0002 Shouldn't that square-bracket header be capitalized? [Service] instead o

Re: How to set umask for apache2

2025-05-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/05/2025 21:34, Chris Green wrote: chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf [service] UMask=0002 [...] chris$ systemctl show apache2.service | grep -i umask UMask=0022 So why can't I set it!!?? I think, you can, but you need to fix a typo

Re: How to set umask for apache2

2025-05-28 Thread Šarūnas Burdulis
On 5/28/25 10:34 AM, Chris Green wrote: [...] ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf [service] UMask=0002 It may necessary to reset UMask first, i.e.: [Service] UMask= UMask=0002 -- Šarūnas Bur

Re: How to know when a fuse filesystem is properly unmounted

2025-05-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 19 May 2025, songbird wrote: Tim Woodall wrote: Short script below that shows my problem. fusermount -u (and umount) both return before all the data is written out to the backing file on a fuse FS. Is there any way to tell when this is complete? I tried running fuse in the foreground a

Re: How to know when a fuse filesystem is properly unmounted

2025-05-19 Thread songbird
Tim Woodall wrote: > Short script below that shows my problem. > > fusermount -u (and umount) both return before all the data is written > out to the backing file on a fuse FS. Is there any way to tell when this > is complete? I tried running fuse in the foreground and then doing a > wait $PID b

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 04, 2025 at 08:03:39AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was > usefully informative. It would be helpful to say what the blunder was so that other people who find this thread by search later on may not be left wonde

[SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-04 Thread Haines Brown
Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was usefully informative. On Sat, May 03, 2025 at 02:12:23PM +, David wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2025 at 11:09, Haines Brown wrote: > Now to assist you, here's an actual example cut and pasted from the machine > I'm using ri

Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 May 2025 at 06:22:45 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > I want to enable a user to copy files to a USB key mounted on a directory > under /media. > > I can change the ownership of that directory to that of the user, but > when I mount the the key on it the ownsrhip reverts to root. There

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