Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-04 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> Now you say rebooting requires and entails the exact same electrical >> event as a poweroff? I don't quite understand. You mean that reboot >> powers off the machine, and then turns it back on again immediately, >> whereas a shutdown/poweroff simply powers t

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Power-off hang. Reboot hang. Neither worked. They are the same > > thing. Both actions could not control the power supply from software. > > Well, now I'm confused. I might have a reboot problem and not know > about it in the sense that I hardly ever reboot

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Power-off hang. Reboot hang. Neither worked. They are the same > thing. Both actions could not control the power supply from software. Well, now I'm confused. I might have a reboot problem and not know about it in the sense that I hardly ever reboot (I th

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Just two months ago I had this exact same problem with a brand new > > Intel motherboard. Searching the motherboard site for BIOS upgrades I > > found that there was one available and in my case the changelog for it > > listed reboot problems as one of the fixes

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Just two months ago I had this exact same problem with a brand new > Intel motherboard. Searching the motherboard site for BIOS upgrades I > found that there was one available and in my case the changelog for it > listed reboot problems as one of the fixes. I

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Curt wrote: > Periodically, for no reason I can fathom, or trace to a specific cause, > when I shutdown my machine, it fails to power off. The shutdown > procedure unrolls, or unfurls, as expected, but at the point where it > says at the console "Will now halt," instead of a power off taking > pla

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown [Fwd:]

2012-01-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-03, Don Juan wrote: > > you could always do alt+sysrq REISUB that's a gentler way to shut down No, I couldn't, because the system is halted and there's no magic left. This machine, an Acer X1430 running debian squeeze with a 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, always shuts down properly but period

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-02 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-02, Ashton Fagg wrote: > G'day Curt. > > On 03/01/12 02:34, Curt wrote: >> There's nothing in the logs to distinguish the no poweroff shutdowns >> from the poweroff ones (I don't think; I have looked). > > I wouldn't think there would be at the very end, because everything is > expecti

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown [Fwd:]

2012-01-02 Thread Don Juan
Original Message Subject:Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 08:42:08 -0800 From: Don Juan To: Curt On 01/02/2012 08:34 AM, Curt wrote: Periodically, for no reason I can fathom, or trace to a specific cause, when I shutdown my

Re: problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-02 Thread Ashton Fagg
G'day Curt. On 03/01/12 02:34, Curt wrote: There's nothing in the logs to distinguish the no poweroff shutdowns from the poweroff ones (I don't think; I have looked). I wouldn't think there would be at the very end, because everything is expecting to be powered off. Which makes everything all

problematic poweroff on shutdown

2012-01-02 Thread Curt
Periodically, for no reason I can fathom, or trace to a specific cause, when I shutdown my machine, it fails to power off. The shutdown procedure unrolls, or unfurls, as expected, but at the point where it says at the console "Will now halt," instead of a power off taking place, the console displa