Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-22 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:14, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, reading your earlier post I also tried to setup PA ... and it > worked (aplay -Dpulse foo.wav worked) ! However, from PA's wiki page it > appears that it doesn't work with audacious yet and neither with > audacity. I use both.

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,21.Nov.08, 14:14:34, H.S. wrote: > BTW, reading your earlier post I also tried to setup PA ... and it > worked (aplay -Dpulse foo.wav worked) ! However, from PA's wiki page it > appears that it doesn't work with audacious yet and neither with audacious works (for me at least) with pulse,

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Kelly Clowers wrote: > > I dug around and found the modinfo command... > > $ sudo modinfo sound > filename: /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/sound/oss/sound.ko > author: Hannu Savolainen, et al. > description:OSS Sound subsystem > > > vs. > > $ sudo modinfo snd-pcm-oss > file

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 01:56, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/20/08 23:03, H.S. wrote: >> >> Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > > If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS.

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, Hello, > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:39:15AM -0500, H.S. wrote: >> Kelly Clowers wrote: > ... And in KDE's sound configuration gui, one of the systems to choose from is OSS. >>> Probably hardwired, and would show up in any case. > ... > this does make sense. Ho

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:39:15AM -0500, H.S. wrote: > Kelly Clowers wrote: ... > >> And in KDE's sound configuration gui, one of the > >> systems to choose from is OSS. > > > > Probably hardwired, and would show up in any case. ... this does make sense. However, if I select OSS from KDE's

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices -- facts on Debian

2008-11-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I agree that if you have modern system (bought new last 5 years or so), you should be OK with ALSA. But let's be more precise beyond this. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 03:56:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: ... > Given that OSS has been deprecated for FIVE years, and I *VERY STRONGLY* > doubt that

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Kelly Clowers wrote: > > I believe that is "provides" in the package dependency sense, and is > for compatibility and because of alsa oss emulation. AFAIK, oss has > no userspace component, so nothing would show up in apt. Yes, that is what first did before starting this thread. It gave nothing.

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/21/08 09:16, H.S. wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: I think you do have it, but I doubt it is in use. You could look at lsmod output and compare it to the modules in /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/sound/oss. I have a bunch of modules there. I will check if any of those are loaded. Which brings me

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: > > You have linux-sound-base. Well, so do I. Good. But I recommend another post in this thread which gives useful information about this. > But there are only 2 OSS drivers in "recent" (going back to st least st? > 2.6.16) kernels, so even though you have linux-sound-bas

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Kelly Clowers wrote: > > I think you do have it, but I doubt it is in use. You could look at > lsmod output and compare it to the modules in > /lib/modules/2.6.xxx/kernel/sound/oss. I have a bunch of modules there. I will check if any of those are loaded. Which brings me to this point: check for

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/21/08 08:52, H.S. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Here's a slightly different question: what makes you think that you *do* have OSS? Please see my other recent posts. You have linux-sound-base. Well, so do I. But there are only 2 OSS drivers in "recent" (going back to st least 2.6.16) ke

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: > > Here's a slightly different question: what makes you think that you *do* > have OSS? Please see my other recent posts. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/20/08 23:03, H.S. wrote: Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. lsmod will list your loaded modules. snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss, and snd_seq_oss, are all part of t

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 21:03, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kelly Clowers wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. > >> >> lsmod will list your loaded modules. snd_pcm_oss, snd

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. > > lsmod will list your loaded modules. snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss, > and snd_seq_oss, are all part of the alsa oss emulation.

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Anyone? >> >> If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. >> > > hmm ... ookay. Does that mean both are orthogonal? And, yes, I am > running 2.6. I am not sure that that is true. I think Debia

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Anyone? > > If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. > hmm ... ookay. Does that mean both are orthogonal? And, yes, I am running 2.6. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my ema

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/20/08 21:29, H.S. wrote: H.S. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: And can I remove OSS in favor of Alsa? Yes. This is what I am most interested in ... how exactly? Anyone? If your machine runs kernel 2.6, it shouldn't have OSS. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA If you don't agree wit

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> And can I remove OSS in favor of Alsa? >> Yes. > > This is what I am most interested in ... how exactly? > > Anyone? -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are j

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,20.Nov.08, 16:59:06, H.S. wrote: > So my next query is how do I find out if any application in Debian > requires OSS other than using the obvious brute force method? Is it even > possible? Usually the package description mentions it, but I doubt there is a maintained software that doesn

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System#OSS_in_relation_to_ALSA >> >>OSS is the standard up through the 2.4 series of official >>(kernel.org) Linux kernels. ALSA was added starting with 2.5, >>and in those versions, Linux kernel authors marked

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/20/08 14:27, H.S. wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Could somebody give some insights in to how is OSS related to Alsa? When > > I hate to sound rude, but did you apply any effort in researching this > yourself? Yes, but it was a while ago. At that time, I must admit though, I kn

Re: oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/20/08 14:27, H.S. wrote: Hello, Could somebody give some insights in to how is OSS related to Alsa? When I hate to sound rude, but did you apply any effort in researching this yourself? a headset is connected via USB, how is it supposed to be detected, as an OSS device or as a USB de

oss and alsa and audio devices

2008-11-20 Thread H.S.
Hello, Could somebody give some insights in to how is OSS related to Alsa? When a headset is connected via USB, how is it supposed to be detected, as an OSS device or as a USB device? And can I remove OSS in favor of Alsa? Thanks. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corr