Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 August 2019 11:44:23 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 04 Aug 2019 at 19:02:01 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > > On 4/08/19 2:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>> gene@picnc:~$ sudo adduser > > >>> [sudo] password for gene: > > >>> adduser: Only one or two names allowed. > > >>> gene@picnc:

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-04 Thread David Wright
On Sun 04 Aug 2019 at 19:02:01 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 4/08/19 2:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> gene@picnc:~$ sudo adduser > >>> [sudo] password for gene: > >>> adduser: Only one or two names allowed. > >>> gene@picnc:~$ > >> I'm guessing 'adduser' needs at least a name for the new us

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-04 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But seat0-greeter.log(s) are all this: > ** Message: 13:37:04.194: Starting lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.6 (Dec 27 > 2018, 16:15:47) > ** Message: 13:37:04.203: [Configuration] Reading > file: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_debian.conf > ** Mes

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-04 Thread Richard Hector
On 4/08/19 2:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> gene@picnc:~$ sudo adduser >>> [sudo] password for gene: >>> adduser: Only one or two names allowed. >>> gene@picnc:~$ >> I'm guessing 'adduser' needs at least a name for the new user ;) >> > Ac the manpage, correct. And I didn't give it a name, so it pic

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 14:45:46 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 12:32:39 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wrig

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 12:32:39 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene He

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 10:32:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: [...] > > AIUI passwords are not encrypted, they're hashed. Yep. In theory, there's no "way back" from the hash to the password. In practice, though... > And apparently each h

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:56:38 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wrig

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 17:22, Gene Heskett wrote: to run. When it logs you out can you log in at another screen (whatever it's called) Ctrl Alt F key ? If so then is something about the display manager ? ctrl+alt+F8, yes, so I opened a term and did an xset -dpms. Whats the name of that lightdm config

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:46:30 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-03 16:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: > >> On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > >> > >> >> I would probably add another user and see if they have s

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 11:38:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene He

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 16:31, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett >> I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem >> on the local machine. >> >> mick > > I'd thought of that but

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 11:06:27 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heske

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:35:17 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > >> I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem > >> on the local machine. > >> > >> mick > > > > I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Aug 2019 at 10:32:02 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPE

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:12:59 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 03 aug 19, 09:57:27, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > > > I would probably add another user and see if they have same > > > problem on the local machine. > > > > I'd thought of that bu

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-03 14:57, Gene Heskett wrote: Cheers, Gene Heskett I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem on the local machine. mick I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need a user amanda who is a member of group backup for the backup program amanda. So

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 10:03:18 David Wright wrote: > On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote:

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 09:45:49 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:51:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 08:01:40 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > > My experience for many years has been that the first console is > > > especially a stinker about having a supe

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 03 aug 19, 09:57:27, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > > > > I would probably add another user and see if they have same problem on > > the local machine. > > I'd thought of that but not tried it yet. I'll need a user amanda who is > a member of

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 22:41:00 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > > > > > No root

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 07:08:08 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-01 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > selecting xfce4, so my first a

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 06:49:41 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [+3038.26s] DEBUG: Session pid=490: Authentication complete with > > return value 7: Authentication failure > > Check permissions on '~.Xauthority' file maybe (think it should be > gene:gene). Maybe that file

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:51:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 08:01:40 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > My experience for many years has been that the first console is > > especially a stinker about having a super fast keystroke repeat > > setting. We can see it visually when

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-01 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x an

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [+3038.26s] DEBUG: Session pid=490: Authentication complete with return > value 7: Authentication failure Check permissions on '~.Xauthority' file maybe (think it should be gene:gene). Maybe that file is 'stale' (whatever that might mean). Maybe you could m

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 05:58:49 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> as well as the contents of > >> > >> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log > > What about the log? Since the logs have been rotated, I find many stanza's of this in the lightdm.log.old [+3030.13s] DEBUG: Greeter

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 03:55:32 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught > > up. I > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.ht >ml > > You're using lightdm as a display manager (graph

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> as well as the contents of >> >> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log What about the log? What happens exactly? >> might provide some clue. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 August 2019 03:55:32 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught > > up. I > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.ht >ml > > You're using lightdm as a display manager (graph

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-03, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Or maybe its ssh thats using the new way, and xfce4 has not caught up. I https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg745969.html You're using lightdm as a display manager (graphical login)? If so sudo tail -f /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greete

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 August 2019 16:58:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > > > netinstall didn

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 August 2019 10:20:57 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > selecting xfce4, so

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 August 2019 09:45:42 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 06:28:17 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > … about which I know nothing. (A physicist once showed me an original > pi in the pub, I think.) > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 August 2019 08:01:40 Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/1/19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was > > selecting xfce4, so my first acti

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 01 aug 19, 06:28:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was selecting > xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to > "sudo apt install xfce4". reb

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 06:28:17 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; … about which I know nothing. (A physicist once showed me an original pi in the pub, I think.) > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I

Re: odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/1/19, Gene Heskett wrote: > Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; > > No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. > > netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was selecting > xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to > "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x a

odd passwd problem.

2019-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
Debian-arm netinstall on a pi3b; No root pw set, I am housebroken to using sudo now. netinstall didn't install x anything although I thought I was selecting xfce4, so my first action on the reboot was to "sudo apt install xfce4". reboot, works, have x and 4 workspaces. Then "sudo apt install b