obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-27 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Greg Wooledge: Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point was essentially valid: No, it was not. I remind you of xyr point which was: Gene Heskett: So if you call it widely publicized it fails that definition AFAIAC. That I pointed to 9 different copies, including copies on Debian's ow

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 August 2017 09:06:27 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06:35:09PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > Debian 7 has those very manual pages: > > > > > > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/upstart/inittab.5.en.html > > Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point w

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 06:35:09PM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Debian 7 has those very manual pages: > > > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/upstart/inittab.5.en.html Gene's copy/paste was crude, but his point was essentially valid: the inittab(5) page on a *real* wheezy system

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 15:05:51 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [Lots and lots of brutal snipping] > === > > > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/systemd-sysv/runlevel.8.en.html > > Which is even older with a 1997 origin date. > > I won't waste the bandwidth

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 13:35:09 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > > Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided > > doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has > > been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years, and that manual page is copied all over the WWW making it fairly easy to come

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 05:32:25 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Felix Miata: > > What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously > > document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if > > it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. That wo

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: The systemd people have not explicitly documented inittab, as the upstart people did, although they have explicitly documented run levels as "obsolete" in the systemd manual page for runlevel. This, too, has been copied around the WWW, albe

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Felix Miata: What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. Gene Heskett: It should be an iron-clad rule that a developer submitting his itch