Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-14 Thread Brian
On Mon 14 Feb 2022 at 06:28:26 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 08:47:54PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Interesting. > > > > Captive portals provide free connectivity. What's the problem? > > No. They provide captive connectivity. Did you look at the example > I

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 08:47:54PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > Interesting. > > Captive portals provide free connectivity. What's the problem? No. They provide captive connectivity. Did you look at the example I provided? *This* is free connectivity. Open WLAN, DHCP, done. Cheers -- t signa

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-13 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 14/2/22 9:21 am, Felmon Davis wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: The portal works by intercepting any web page request at all and answering with its own sign-up page. So, go to a page which you know will be served via plain HTTP. If you can't think of one, try http://www.plainw

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-13 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: The portal works by intercepting any web page request at all and answering with its own sign-up page. So, go to a page which you know will be served via plain HTTP. If you can't think of one, try http://www.plainwebsite.com So, in sum, there are at leas

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Cindy Sue Causey writes: On 2/13/22, Brian wrote: > On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 16:02:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > > On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] >> > > > [1] Had I a say in it, I'd reserve a very special place in Hell >> > > >for those. [...

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Brian writes: On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 16:02:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Brian writes: [...] > > > Could the process to replace them on, say, public transport be > > > outlined? [...] > > * RFC8910 - Captive-Portal Iden

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/13/22, Brian wrote: > On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 16:02:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: >> > Brian writes: >> > >> > > On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > > > This is Firefox's capt

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread Brian
On Sun 13 Feb 2022 at 16:02:53 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Brian writes: > > > > > On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > This is Firefox's captive portal [1] detection [2]. > >

Re: Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread tomas
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 02:41:31PM +0100, Linux-Fan wrote: > Brian writes: > > > On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > This is Firefox's captive portal [1] detection [2]. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > [1] Had I a say in it, I'd reserve a very special pl

Captive Portal Alternatives (Was: Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel)

2022-02-13 Thread Linux-Fan
Brian writes: On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > This is Firefox's captive portal [1] detection [2]. > > Cheers > > [1] Had I a say in it, I'd reserve a very special place in Hell >for those. Could the process to replace them on, say, public transport

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Felmon Davis wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > The portal works by intercepting any web page request at all and > > answering with its own sign-up page. > > > > So, go to a page which you know will be served via plain HTTP. > > > > If you can't think of one, try http://www.p

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Felmon Davis
folks, I decided to waste more time and booted up the other laptop; it has MX installed. (I had forgotten; usually on TDE, a continuation of KDE3.) had to fool around with the configuration, also forgotten since that laptop usually boots straight to Windows 10 Pro. figured it out and, lo an

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sat Feb 12 15:17:38 2022 Dan Ritter wrote: > Felmon Davis wrote: > >> Greets! >> >> Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr >> which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. >> I'm on Debian 10. >> >> this miracle of connectivity doesn't seem to happe

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, Curt wrote: On 2022-02-12, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave brows

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/2/22 3:52 am, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Felmon Davis
On Sat, 12 Feb 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave browser or Iron

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Felmon Davis wrote: > > Greets! > > Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which > provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. > > this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave browser or > Iron. > > (a) what is the me

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/2/22 3:52 am, Felmon Davis wrote: Greets! Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave browser or Iron. (a) what is th

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Curt
On 2022-02-12, Felmon Davis wrote: > > Greets! > > Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which > provides > the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. > > this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave browser or > Iron. > > (a)

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Brian
On Sat 12 Feb 2022 at 21:07:10 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 08:52:58PM +0100, Felmon Davis wrote: > > > > Greets! > > > > Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which > > provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian

Re: miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 08:52:58PM +0100, Felmon Davis wrote: > > Greets! > > Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which > provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. > > this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave br

miracle of Firefox in the hotel.

2022-02-12 Thread Felmon Davis
Greets! Sitting in a hotel in Hamburg, Germany, thankful for Firefox-esr which provides the page necessary for logging into the network. I´m on Debian 10. this miracle of connectivity doesn´t seem to happen with Brave browser or Iron. (a) what is the mechanism FF uses for this feat? (b) can