Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-28 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya monique/joey On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Joey Hess wrote: > Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > > I roll my own because, um ... because ... because it's fun :-) > > touch with what my computer's doing. I do it because I love screwing it > > up and seeing LI LI LI LI scroll across my screen *grin* and

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-28 Thread Joey Hess
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > I roll my own because, um ... because ... > > Well, I do it because I've been doing it for years, so it's not > intimidating to me. I do it because I think it's interesting to see all > of the options and read up on the ones that pique my curiosity. I do it > because i

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-27 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:29:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen insinuated: [...] > in general, is there much of an advantage to hand-rolling over > grabbing a stock kernel? i feel like everything i probably want to > insert as a module (soundcore; usb; whatever) should be available in > a stock kernel. aha

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:29:07 -0400, Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i'm looking into grabbing a new kernel (because the one i'm using > doesn't appear to have the "soundcore" option either compiled in or as > a module -- can i fix this without updating kernels?). Get the sources f

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-24 Thread Benedict Verheyen
>> and to slim down the kernel. > > what advantage does this have? does it make everything run faster, > even if everything that's in there is compiled as a module and maybe > not loaded, as opposed to into the kernel proper? I don't think it speeds up things or at least not significantly. What i

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-24 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Wed, 23 Jun 2004 10:56:41AM -0600, Paul E Condon insinuated: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 12:29:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > i'm looking into grabbing a new kernel (because the one i'm using > > doesn't appear to have the "soundcore" option either compiled in or as > > a module -- can i fi

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-24 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:56:03AM +0200, Benedict Verheyen insinuated: > >- Original Message - > >From: "Nori Heikkinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:29 PM >

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread John Summerfield
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-06-24, John Summerfield penned: Well, I suspect the Kernel Gods prune bits out of the kernel because they offend their sensibilities (DFSG). I've not actually confirmed this, but I got that impression from something I read, and it's believable. You seem to b

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-24, John Summerfield penned: >> > > Well, I suspect the Kernel Gods prune bits out of the kernel because > they offend their sensibilities (DFSG). I've not actually confirmed > this, but I got that impression from something I read, and it's > believable. You seem to be talking about com

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread John Summerfield
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Is there a tangible advantage? Well, it's possible that a module sitting around unused might have a vulnerability ... but if your cracker is already to the point where they can load modules, you're probably hosed, anyway. Unless you're working with very tight resources, I'

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread Benedict Verheyen
>- Original Message - >From: "Nori Heikkinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:29 PM >Subject: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock >i'm looking into grabbing a new kernel (because t

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-23, Nori Heikkinen penned: > > in general, is there much of an advantage to hand-rolling over > grabbing a stock kernel? i feel like everything i probably want to > insert as a module (soundcore; usb; whatever) should be available in a > stock kernel. I roll my own because, um ... beca

Re: kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 12:29:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > i'm looking into grabbing a new kernel (because the one i'm using > doesn't appear to have the "soundcore" option either compiled in or as > a module -- can i fix this without updating kernels?). the one i have > right now, i hand-r

kerenls: hand-rolled v. stock

2004-06-23 Thread Nori Heikkinen
i'm looking into grabbing a new kernel (because the one i'm using doesn't appear to have the "soundcore" option either compiled in or as a module -- can i fix this without updating kernels?). the one i have right now, i hand-rolled froum the 2.4.20 source. i don't feel like doing anothert one mys