Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-05 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: Printing is comprehensively covered on the wiki. A starting point is https://wiki.debian.org/QuickPrintQueuesCUPS Scanning is trickier because user-facing software needs developing. Have look at https://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork#airprint thank you B

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, mick crane wrote: On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-01 20:35, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of hops. How many hops for you, with traceroute? for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), before reaching the target. I

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: So - you had the plugin installed already! yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. and on my laptop, it opens a window sayi

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 15:20:41 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > So - you had the plugin installed already! > > yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: > > error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. > > and

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: So - you had the plugin installed already! yes, but as I already said, on my desktop, it gives: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. and on my laptop, it opens a window saying: the driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:42:16 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > A final try: > > > > mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/ > > > > and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to > > it. > > that will not be necessary, as the direc

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: A final try: mkdir /usr/share/hplip/scan/plugins/ and copy bb_escl*, bb_marvell*, bb_orblite*, bb_soap_ht* and bb_soap to it. that will not be necessary, as the directory already exists, with all the files you mention! anyway, thank you for the time you

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 13:02:34 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp > > > > Omit the first and last steps in the instructions. > > I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result. > > I think it may be

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/PrintQueuesCUPS#hp Omit the first and last steps in the instructions. I already did that, but I tried it again, with the same result. I think it may be interesting to try with a live cd. I'll do that. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 12:36:46 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > > I also installed all xxqt4xx packages > > > > Not so good. > >agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them > > > 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: I also installed all xxqt4xx packages Not so good. agreed. As that solved nothing, I purged them 'hp-plugin -i -p hplip-3.19.6-plugin.run' is the most straightforward command to use to install the plugin. (hplip-3.19.6 is from the experimental (rc-bug

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 09:09:11 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you > > connect to that? A reminder: > > > > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins > > It's the 1st

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Brian
On Fri 02 Aug 2019 at 07:59:56 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-01, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > > > >> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > >> > >> > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big > >> > number of hops. > >> > Ho

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-01, Brian wrote: > On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > >> On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: >> >> > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number >> > of hops. >> > How many hops for you, with traceroute? >> > for me, traceroute sto

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-02 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: You have been give a second link to download the plugin from. Can you connect to that? A reminder: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/plugins It's the 1st time I see this link. May-be I missed it before... It works fine, and I could d

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:19:16 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > hi, > > > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says > >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... > >(the hplip package versi

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:35:33 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number > > of hops. > > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33),

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-01, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > I suspect it it is a timing problem, and works for a not too big number of > hops. > How many hops for you, with traceroute? > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), > before reaching the target. I can't reach https://www.ope

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 19:56:27 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can connect without > > problems. > > I also hate to say that, but I can't connect! > Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 19:56:27 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, > How many hops for you, with traceroute? 10 > for me, traceroute stops at the ninth step ( 198.32.176.33), Perhaps unsurprisingly, that IP address doesn't appear in my hop list. -- Regards _ / )

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 08:02:24PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > >On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > >>On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>>Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it > >>>created the lock

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On qui, 01 ago 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) Even better, "ls -ald /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip" no, not better: you have already the informat

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Toma

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brad Rogers wrote: I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can connect without problems. I also hate to say that, but I can't connect! Up to now, I never had any network problem, and I don't have a firewall. explain that who can. I suspect it it is a timing probl

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 04:37:25PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it > >created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) > >with root permission > >hi Tomas, >thank you

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:57:35 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > Recent HP MFDs all provide an AirPrint facility. The printing aspect > > is fully supported on buster without anything non-free. I hope this is > > welcome news. > > > > It is also probable the

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On qui, 01 ago 2019, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: And what are the permissions in the directory, as Tomas asked? (ls -al /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip) Even better, "ls -ald /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip" -- Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:50:03 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Hello Pierre, >> https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ >after waiting several minutes, I get: > this site can't be reached ... timed out I hate to say it, but it's likely your end. I can

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On qui, 01 ago 2019, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Tomas, thank you for your suggestion, but it's

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: Recent HP MFDs all provide an AirPrint facility. The printing aspect is fully supported on buster without anything non-free. I hope this is welcome news. It is also probable the devices have an AirScan service. No plugin is needed to use that. Bottom line: prin

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 17:50:03 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: > > > The plugin can be downloaded from > > > > https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ > >after waiting several minutes, I get: > > this site can't be reac

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 16:30:52 +0200, Michael Kesper wrote: > Hi all, > > On 01.08.19 15:38, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > > hi, > > > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says > >    driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... > >    (the hplip package version is 3.16.1

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Brian wrote: The plugin can be downloaded from https://www.openprinting.org/download/printdriver/auxfiles/HP/plugins/ after waiting several minutes, I get: this site can't be reached ... timed out and installed with the -p option of hp-plugin. and this g

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Aug 2019 at 15:38:04 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... >(the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: >er

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Michael Kesper wrote: Hi Pierre, I did by no means want to offend you. The fact stays, though: You can scan from these other PCs because they are supported by this non-free binary. As soon as that stops working, the scanning will not be supported anymore. Someone should re

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi Pierre, I did by no means want to offend you. The fact stays, though: You can scan from these other PCs because they are supported by this non-free binary. As soon as that stops working, the scanning will not be supported anymore. Someone should reverse engineer it. Bye Michael

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Michael Kesper wrote: Return that printer and use one that is fully supported by free software. Honestly, this is very annoying of HP: Cheap ink printer-scanners are totally usable without this, laser printer-scanners can only be used to print without this non-free garbage.

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Perhaps you succeeded running hp-plugin once as root and it created the lock file (/data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock) with root permission hi Tomas, thank you for your suggestion, but it's of course the first thing I checked and foun

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi all, On 01.08.19 15:38, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says >    driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... >    (the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: >    error: Unable

Re: hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 03:38:04PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > > when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says >driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... >(the hplip package version is 3.16.11) > > if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: >

hp-plugin fails

2019-08-01 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
hi, when I run hp-plugin on my laptop (debian/stretch), it says driver plugin for HPLIP 3.16.11 already installed ... (the hplip package version is 3.16.11) if I do that on my desktop (debian/buster), I get: error: Unable to open /data/home/frenkiel/.hplip/hp-plugin.lock lock file. (