Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Steve McIntyre
ra...@siliconet.pl wrote: > >On 29.01.2025 4:16 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> Yes, it still means that. The minizip binary package you are seeing >> comes from a different source package, also called minizip: >> >> https://packages.debian.org/source/bookworm/minizip > >Aha! Got it :-) > >And th

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.01.2025 4:16 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Yes, it still means that. The minizip binary package you are seeing comes from a different source package, also called minizip: https://packages.debian.org/source/bookworm/minizip Aha! Got it :-) And there are no binary components in Debian b

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
vious post above as Re- to Hanno. > You are mistaken here. I think my other email elsewhere in this thread explaining the source and status of the minizip package you are seeing answers this precisely. >Anyway thank you for trying to explain me things that are not obvious to > me. &

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 04:04:26PM +0100, Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > On 29.01.2025 3:35 PM, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: > > > The notes say: > > > [bookworm] - zlib (contrib/minizip not built and src:zlib not > > > producing binary packages) > > > In other words, there's no point in fixing it bec

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.01.2025 3:30 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 03:22:02PM +0100, Rafał Lichwała wrote: On 29.01.2025 2:43 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: CVSS are often bogus. Hmmm... I'm not sure what you mean. All security announcements in DSAs are referring to CVSS, so... what's

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.01.2025 3:35 PM, Hanno 'Rince' Wagner wrote: The notes say: [bookworm] - zlib (contrib/minizip not built and src:zlib not producing binary packages) In other words, there's no point in fixing it because Debian doesn't build the vulnerable binary component. Very low priority. so, this

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 03:22:02PM +0100, Rafał Lichwała wrote: >On 29.01.2025 2:43 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > CVSS are often bogus. > > Hmmm... I'm not sure what you mean. All security announcements in DSAs are > referring to CVSS, so... what's the source of such opinion? > > > Most rec

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 08:43:12AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Most recently: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/01/23/cvss-is-dead-to-us/ I was going to post a link to this very article when I saw that you already had :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.01.2025 2:43 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: CVSS are often bogus. Hmmm... I'm not sure what you mean. All security announcements in DSAs are referring to CVSS, so... what's the source of such opinion? Most recently:https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/01/23/cvss-is-dead-to-us/ Yeah, another blog and

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
found a confirmation that bookworm is vulnerable. So now I suppose I just don't fully understand those information I found, so that's why I ask you guys for help on this Debian user mailing list. This strange scanner found a CVE attached to minizip. minizip is part of zlib, but

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > On 29.01.2025 2:12 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > > The notes say: > > > > [bookworm] - zlib (contrib/minizip not built and src:zlib not > > producing binary packages) > > > > In other words, there's no point in fixing it because Debian > > doesn't build the vulnerable bina

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
t least for me)  it's not the case this time (?) I hope I am wrong, so please help to to understand. Could you please send some link which says "yeah, it's fixed in bookworm"? I cannot find it. On the other hand there is nothing in package change log about this CVSS: https://meta

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.01.2025 2:12 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: The notes say: [bookworm] - zlib (contrib/minizip not built and src:zlib not producing binary packages) In other words, there's no point in fixing it because Debian doesn't build the vulnerable binary component. Very low priority. Could you please

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hi, > > I've prepared some docker image based on Debian 12 (bookworm, fully updated) > and after upload it to local registry it has been automatically scanned for > possible vulnerabilities. > Then I was really surprised when discovered that according to this scan > there

Re: Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread David
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 at 12:40, Rafał Lichwała wrote: > I've prepared some docker image based on Debian 12 (bookworm, fully > updated) and after upload it to local registry it has been automatically > scanned for possible vulnerabilities. > Then I was really surprised when discovered that according

Debian 12 security issue - please help to understand

2025-01-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
om these information above? Similar problem in second critical on the list: package "libaom3" which is a binary package from "aom": https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/aom https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/aom https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2023-6879/ Please help me to understand :-) Best regards, Rafal

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-24 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 9:32 PM Bob McGowan wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-24 at 18:23 +, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Bob McGowan wrote: > > Hello list, > > I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create > backups of files. > > What I first found were instruct

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-24 Thread Bob McGowan
On Fri, 2025-01-24 at 18:23 +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Bob McGowan wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to > > create > > backups of files. > > > > What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the >

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-24 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Bob McGowan wrote: Hello list, I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create backups of files. What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the propper size, 'mkudffs file', loop mount it, copy files to it, unmount and burn to the

Re: Need a serious help

2025-01-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
ed or the whole site if possible, this website was > > only created to attack and make fun of several people in the world > > > > can you guys please do something against it? thanks already. > > This is a mailing list for users of Debian Linux. I'm not sure that we

Re: Need a serious help

2025-01-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 01:45:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > This is a mailing list for users of Debian Linux. I'm not sure that we > can help with random abuse on the Internet unless it's hosted on > Debian-provided infrastructure. You are as friendly as ever :

Re: Need a serious help

2025-01-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
e in the world > > can you guys please do something against it? thanks already. This is a mailing list for users of Debian Linux. I'm not sure that we can help with random abuse on the Internet unless it's hosted on Debian-provided infrastructure. Can I suggest that you raise

Need a serious help

2025-01-23 Thread Rubens Felipe
So a bunch of bad users are attacking and harassing me in this website Emperor Pyromancer - Larp City They're accusing me of being pedophilie without any real evidence though it's a long story and then they are attacking me, calling me incel, virgin, ''

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Nearly half a life ago, my own endeavor with ISO 9660 and optical media > > began with creating a tool which does this splitting automatically: > > > >   http://scdbackup.webframe.org/main_eng.html > >   http://scdbackup.webframe.org/examples.html Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > Th

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
gt; > Back then there was only mkisofs for producing ISO 9660. So sdvdbackup > uses its pathspecs notation for defining the mapping from disk to BD. > Of course i meanwhile use xorriso for the roles of cdrecord, growisofs > and mkisofs. > > I'm still backing up multi-media

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 09:49:19AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > (Due to its purpose and the proximity to some words from the iberian > peninsula, i would visualize it as a smiling sausage which burns at > both ends.) Yikes. Chorizo al infierno :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-20 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Monday, 20 January 2025 05:49:19 GMT-4 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Bob McGowan wrote: > > The -options_from_file is > > exactly what I was needing and works perfectly. > > Congrats. > I'm glad that UDF was not a hard requirement. > > > Just one last question. How do you pronounce "xorriso"?

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bob McGowan wrote: > The -options_from_file is > exactly what I was needing and works perfectly. Congrats. I'm glad that UDF was not a hard requirement. > Just one last question. How do you pronounce "xorriso"? :) Rarely. :)) Normally i only write about it. But i think of it with german p

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-19 Thread Bob McGowan
/sr0 \ >     -blank as_needed \ >     -pathspecs as_mkisofs \ >     -path_list /home/me/xorriso_pathspecs \ >     -commit -toc -check_md5 FAILURE -- -eject all > > - > -- > How i handle my larger backups: >

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
ackup. Once: ./CONFIGURE_DVD With each backup, you'd do something like: sdvdbackup /topdir=/home/me/topdir -not /home/me/topdir/temp_files Back then there was only mkisofs for producing ISO 9660. So sdvdbackup uses its pathspecs notation for defining the mapping fro

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-18 Thread Bob McGowan
> > This old statement applies to writing, not to reading. Further it > > is > > mostly about writing of CD media and some DVD media types. BD media > > can > > get written by several write types which all resemble CD packet > > writing. > > > >

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-18 Thread Bob McGowan
On Sat, 2025-01-18 at 14:25 -0500, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > Are you trying to script/automate? > > If not, just use xfburn (GUI). I'm writing Bluray 25GiB M-disks using > xfburn regularly (archiving a backups' snapshot directory on NAS). > > -- > Šarūnas Burdulis > Dartmouth Mathematics > https

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > just use xfburn (GUI). Xfburn does indeed Blu-ray by help of libburn. But it does no UDF, because it uses libisofs for filesystem production. Insofar the result is supposed to be similar to the results of the xorriso runs which i proposed, but without MD5 checks

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-18 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
Are you trying to script/automate? If not, just use xfburn (GUI). I'm writing Bluray 25GiB M-disks using xfburn regularly (archiving a backups' snapshot directory on NAS). -- Šarūnas Burdulis Dartmouth Mathematics https://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas · https://useplaintext.email · OpenPGP_si

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
of me I cannot figure out how to make this work. None of > the suggestions I've found work with my setup. Did you eject your BD and reload it before mounting it for looking at its content ? The Linux kernel offers no way to tell it to re-assess a freshly written /dev/sr device. You have t

Re: Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-17 Thread Bob McGowan
On Fri, 2025-01-17 at 23:37 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: > Hello list, > > I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create > backups of files. > > What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the > propper size, 'mkudffs file', loop mount it, copy files to it

Help with UDF and BluRay disks

2025-01-17 Thread Bob McGowan
Hello list, I've been trying to figure out how to use my BD disc writer to create backups of files. What I first found were instructions to create an empty file of the propper size, 'mkudffs file', loop mount it, copy files to it, unmount and burn to the BD disc. Doing this resulted in a BD disk

Re: "lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

2025-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 13:49:04 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I wanted to respond with something like > <https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+mailing+list+help+vampire>. The link in the bot in #debian is <http://www.slash7.com/pages/vampires>. There may of course be others.

Re: "lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

2025-01-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 1:22 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > Perhaps not quite on topic but over the holiday period I watched this > presentation about lists.debian.org and found it very interesting. > > > https://berlin2024.mini.debconf.org/talks/12-listsdebianorg-where-can-you-h

"lists.debian.org - where can you help?" (Video)

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, Perhaps not quite on topic but over the holiday period I watched this presentation about lists.debian.org and found it very interesting. https://berlin2024.mini.debconf.org/talks/12-listsdebianorg-where-can-you-help/ Or if you prefer YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Tom Browder wrote: I've had this problem a long time ago, and don't remember how I recovered, but it was with help here. I suspect a failing disk, and I wonder if there is a hail Mary command I can do to force a reboot to see if it can recover on its own. I wo

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:37 Alain D D Williams wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > > > I suspect a failing disk, > > > > My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it > > when > > I bought it). A few y

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mountedread-only

2024-12-30 Thread gene heskett
On 12/30/24 06:37, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: I suspect a failing disk, My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it when I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk problems (time outs, fa

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:37 Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I suspect a failing disk, > > My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it > when > I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk p

Re: Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 05:29:05AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > I suspect a failing disk, My main home PC is 10 years old and still going strong (I over specced it when I bought it). A few years ago I had what looked like disk problems (time outs, failed writes, ...). I replaced the power supply a

Recovery help needed for remote server: file system mounted read-only

2024-12-30 Thread Tom Browder
I've had this problem a long time ago, and don't remember how I recovered, but it was with help here. I suspect a failing disk, and I wonder if there is a hail Mary command I can do to force a reboot to see if it can recover on its own. I would almost welcome starting over with a new

Re: Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/12/24 02:10, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 12/23/24 12:43, koffie wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: fail message dirmanager Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 From: koffie To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Ubuntu / Oracular Hello, It is not possible to download an iso fil

Re: Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread eben
On 12/23/24 12:43, koffie wrote: > > > > Forwarded Message > Subject: fail message dirmanager > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 > From: koffie > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Ubuntu / Oracular > Hello, > > It is not possible to download an iso file. From where? How

Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread koffie
fail permanently. On today I've got a fail message during a test - download on youtube. It mentioned there is no dirmanager but it is on my computer. I have to repair the bootpartition on a dual boot system and the iso files provide maybe support to repair the damage. Anyone who can help?

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/13/24 9:41 AM, Jan Claeys wrote: On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 05:54 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Then I started speculating about taking notes tied to specific times. Can audacious do that? Is there a media player with that orientation? What should I be reading? Depending on what you mean by "n

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-13 Thread Jan Claeys
On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 05:54 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Then I started speculating about taking notes tied to specific times. > Can audacious do that? Is there a media player with that orientation? > What should I be reading? Depending on what you mean by "notes", there are tools to edit subtit

Media newbie meets VLC was [Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI]

2024-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 7:01 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/10/24 11:30 AM, ghe2001 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 10:33 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:22 AM Richard Owlett wrote: [SNIP... ] I'm looking for documentation for optimal use of the GUI. My initial problems revolved around pause/resume. Those raised the question "How do I go to point x minutes into a file?" The

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 9:22 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > [SNIP... ] > > I'm looking for documentation for optimal use of the GUI. > My initial problems revolved around pause/resume. > Those raised the question "How do I go to point x minutes into a file?" > > Then I started speculating about taki

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 18:56:02 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/10/24 10:53 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Those raised the question "How do I go to point x minutes into a file?" > > > > There's a slider that progresses as the

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 11:30 AM, ghe2001 wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and initial trial wen

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/10/24 10:53 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > > I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. > > Never had need for audio. > > > > Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. > > Install and initial trial went well. > > Its

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 05:54:24 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. > Never had need for audio. > > Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. > Install and initial trial went well. > Its m

Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-10 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm using Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 I date back to days of Z80 systems using CPM. Never had need for audio. Now have lectures I want to listen to and was referred to audacious. Install and initial trial went well. Its man-page - terse! I'm looking for documentation for optimal use of the GUI.

Re: help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/12/24 23:07, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/12/24 22:53, gene heskett wrote: I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Why do you not 1. post the query to the Thunderbird email list (at https://groups.io/g/ThunderbirdEmail after subscribi

Re: help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/12/24 22:53, gene heskett wrote: I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Why do you not 1. post the query to the Thunderbird email list (at https://groups.io/g/ThunderbirdEmail after subscribing to that list), as the appropriate

help latest t-bird is crash-o-matic

2024-12-09 Thread gene heskett
I don't know if it will last long enough to send this msg. Help plz Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we

Re: help, man, etc. (was: Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 09:34:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 27/11/2024 23:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > OTOH, the venerable groff has gained a hyperlink markup > > recently [1] ("recently" in its time scale), thus bridging yet another > > gap separating man and info. > > Does it affect "ma

Re: help, man, etc. (was: Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/11/2024 23:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: OTOH, the venerable groff has gained a hyperlink markup recently [1] ("recently" in its time scale), thus bridging yet another gap separating man and info. Does it affect "man" when called in a terminal application (so usually "less" is used as a pa

Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread tomas
s, it's a pity there is no common frontend for both. > > > [help and man] > > >> There's also 'info foo', which for some values of foo will be more > >> helpful than either of the above, for others will provide exactly > >> the s

Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-27 at 11:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:40:44AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-27 at 09:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> And yes, it's a pity there is no common frontend for both. > [help and man] >> Ther

Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:03:48AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:40:44 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > One of the items on the list, under the characteristics of a > > "knowledgeable user", is the entry: > > > > * has learned that lea

Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:40:44AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2024-11-27 at 09:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > And yes, it's a pity there is no common frontend for both. [help and man] > > There's also 'info foo', which for some values of foo wi

Re: help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 10:40:44 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > One of the items on the list, under the characteristics of a > "knowledgeable user", is the entry: > > * has learned that learn doesn't help > > I have never managed to find out what 'learn&#x

help, man, etc. (was Re: Using terminal commands - corner cases)

2024-11-27 Thread The Wanderer
ll and >> >> man -k somekeyword >> >> will allow to search man pages. >> >> bash itself also has a help system: type "help" :-) > > Good points -- as a tip, turn things around: first try "help foo", > then "man foo" wh

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 02:45:46AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/22/24 5:33 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > You misinterpreted my post. > > I meant to convey that I have been using Debian since release 6. > I liked my experience with Debian 9. > > I now have a machine with a clean initia

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/22/24 5:33 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:26:05AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/22/24 12:57 AM, Michael Paoli wrote: I recently jumped from Debian 9(w/MATE) - 12(w/MATE) in one step. My Debian 9 settings can be traced back to Debian 6(w/Gnome). I don't recall

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/11/2024 01:11, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 22 Nov 2024 12:40 -0500, from e...@gmx.us: Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition somewhere, then edit /etc/shadow to change the second field (deliminated by colons) to the null string.[...] If what you are talking about is instead

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 9:27 AM The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Yikes! That kernel goes back to Debian 7 - released 2

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:26:05AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/22/24 12:57 AM, Michael Paoli wrote: > > I recently jumped from Debian 9(w/MATE) - 12(w/MATE) in one step. > My Debian 9 settings can be traced back to Debian 6(w/Gnome). > I don't recall what settings I ended up with. > But I

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:48 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 22:57:35 (-0800), Michael Paoli wrote: > > > remove power (and it goes down cold - laptop battery no longer holds > >charge and has been that way for many years now - cannot withstand so > >much as even a full

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Dan Ritter
e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/22/24 11:56, The David wrote: > > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are > > moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to > > recover this without losing data? Thank you. > > Boot off rescue media, mount the vic

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 22:57:35 (-0800), Michael Paoli wrote: > remove power (and it goes down cold - laptop battery no longer holds >charge and has been that way for many years now - cannot withstand so >much as even a full second of power interruption). Yes, I have three laptops like t

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Andy Smith
sing data? If you're running a business that needs this computer and have no one on-site who can sort out a forgotten password I think you need paid help. With the best will in the world from unpaid volunteers such as us, that's not a way to run a business. You might like to try to fin

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 16:56:23 + The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are > moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway > to recover this without losing data? Thank you. You can boot the machine with a live system, mount t

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Nov 2024 12:40 -0500, from e...@gmx.us: >> We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We >> are moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there >> anyway to recover this without losing data? Thank you. > > Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 04:56:23PM +, The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Which password? If it is some user's or root

Re: Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread eben
On 11/22/24 11:56, The David wrote: > We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving > to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this > without losing data? Thank you. Boot off rescue media, mount the victim's / partition somewhere, the

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
Thanks. Still haven't found way to prevent sleep/hibernate/etc, but FYI: $ (cd /sys/power && grep . mem_sleep state) mem_sleep:s2idle [deep] state:freeze mem disk $ On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 5:15 AM wrote: > Definitions can be found at > https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/pm/sleep-states.html > Ot

Lost password need help!

2024-11-22 Thread The David
We have been using the debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae for our company. We are moving to another state and we forgot the password. Is there anyway to recover this without losing data? Thank you. Sincerely, David Have a good day!

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
AllowHybridSleep=no AllowPowerOffInterrupts=yes BroadcastPowerOffInterrupts=no AllowSuspendInterrupts=yes BroadcastSuspendInterrupts=no SuspendState= HibernateState= HibernateMode= HybridSleepState= HybridSleepMode= /etc/elogind/logind.co

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > Michael mentioned https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend and I found > https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation . > > I, and other inexperienced users, need proper definitions of > sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc to use those pages and solutions to be > described here. Definitions c

Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/11/2024 13:57, Michael Paoli wrote: seems to be a very deep form of sleep, the only things I can do at that point that at all gets it to respond: - which does a warm reboot Does not like suspend to RAM or suspend to disk (hibernate). It resembles graphics issues. Can you connect

Re: DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Paoli
Wikipedia has some pretty good materials, e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI#Power_states and see also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing) In my case it's going to S3 (at least apparently from the log messages and observed behavior)

DefinitionS sleep/suspend/hibernate/etc - was [Re: help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12]

2024-11-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 11/22/24 12:57 AM, Michael Paoli wrote: How do I disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate on Debian 12? [snip very detailed of his environment/symptoms] I recently jumped from Debian 9(w/MATE) - 12(w/MATE) in one step. My Debian 9 settings can be traced back to Debian 6(w/Gnome). I don'

help: disable all manner of sleep/suspend/hibernate - Debian 12

2024-11-21 Thread Michael Paoli
moved the HDD, replaced with SSD, added 2nd SSD, all years ago, one of the SSDs failed a few weeks ago, but long after start of the issue. Also years ago, doubled the RAM from 8GiB to 16 GiB. And as noted above, battery has been very dead a very long time (can't no longer even hold enough c

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Phil
ll saw the accursed copilot line. I think my computer is doomed, not even microsoft help could understand why it wouldn't work, and they used the registry key disable of copilot. I think my computer's just ducked... All suggestions welcome PLEASE Thanks -- All the best Keith Bainbridge k

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
ign out >> >> >> It's the IF successful that worries me; especially after finding this: >> >> did as you followed, opened word, still saw the accursed copilot line. I >> think my computer is doomed, not even microsoft help could understand >> why it

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-08 Thread George at Clug
Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot /v > TurnOffWindowsCopilot /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f > If it is successful, sign out > > > It's the IF successful that worries me; especially after finding this: > > did as you followed, opened word, still saw the accursed copilot line. I &

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 09:38:25AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > I'm pretty sure: > > a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe > b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm > putting you in the killfile now. Please do not feed the trolls. The fun is over so

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
mindaugascelies...@gmail.com wrote: Enough. The initial question didn't belong on this list in the first place, and you're making things worse. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, J

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Mindaugas wrote: > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. > > On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: > > such as your therapist's > > office. I'm pretty sure: a) Andy lives

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
What difference does it make whether he is a yankee, an anglo-saxon, or their mental slave? On 11/7/24 16:38, Dan Ritter wrote: Mindaugas wrote: Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescrib

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 9:42 AM Mindaugas wrote: > > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. Lol... So true. Jeff

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