Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-27 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:53:55 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: ... > Have you tried pressing "H" for Help, on each feature or feature class? Note > what help tells you. In many/most cases Help will assist you in figuring out > whether you need a given feature or not. Many - certainly. Most, perhaps

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-27 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun December 27 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > I do have ecryptfs & a Private filesystem, but ecryptfs was under file > > systems ( I think..) I did find that. > > Have you tried pressing "H" for Help, on each feature or feature class? >  Note what help tells you.  In many/most cases Help will a

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/26/2009 5:32 AM: > this DELL box is my first PC with SATA. When I opened it up a while back to > add a 2nd HD, THAT is when I found out it was SATA, and my old drives > wouldn't work! but I don't remember looking at the CDROM cables.. Sounds like the perfect time

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/26/2009 6:47 AM: > On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote: >> Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very >> frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why >> has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working". >> > > ok

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote: > Absolutely.  I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very > frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why > has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working". yeah, found that one... something about can't boot from (0,0)..

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat December 26 2009, Celejar wrote: > > kernel hacking?? > > Various options that control the behavior of the kernel, for debugging, > testing, troubleshooting, etc.  You can generally ignore this section > and turn things off, although there are some useful things there (Magic > SysRq, various

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 07:47:10 -0500 Paul Cartwright wrote: ... [Warning: I'm no expert, so take everything I write with a grain of salt.] > kernel hacking?? Various options that control the behavior of the kernel, for debugging, testing, troubleshooting, etc. You can generally ignore this sect

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote: > Absolutely.  I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very > frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why > has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working". > ok, so it gets deep in those menus... network, device drivers

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > 18MB?  Yikes!  Am I reading that correctly?  My latest custom kernel is: > > -rw-r--r--  1 root src  1.5M Dec  8 13:29 > linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.greer.sata.1.3_i386.deb ok, so I go through and delete stuff ( make menuconfig). When I get to an en

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-26 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > -rw-r--r--  1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25 05:58 > > linux-image-2.6.31.9_custom.1.0_i386.deb > > 18MB?  Yikes!  Am I reading that correctly?  My latest custom kernel is: > > -rw-r--r--  1 root src  1.5M Dec  8 13:29 > linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.g

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/25/2009 6:56 PM: > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25 05:58 > linux-image-2.6.31.9_custom.1.0_i386.deb 18MB? Yikes! Am I reading that correctly? My latest custom kernel is: -rw-r--r-- 1 root src 1.5M Dec 8 13:29 linux-image-2.6.31.1_custom.greer.sa

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote: > > How about: build a kernel with everything as modules, boot it, look at > > the output of lsmod, then build a kernel with (at least) those modules? > > Probably a good idea, but note that connecting kernel module names with > the relevant kernel config opt

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Celejar wrote: > Absolutely.  I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very > frustrating "why can't the kernel find my root filesystem?" and "why > has this piece of HW / SW suddenly stopped working". right.. I get it.. > > One thing I'd recommend, although I've

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Fri December 25 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > You've just passed the first milestone, and seem to be continuing down the > right path in your kernel building journey. :) after editing that file, and doing the steps, I now have my first custom kernel: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18548960 2009-12-25

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 10:35:59 -0500 Tony Nelson wrote: > On 09-12-25 09:04:42, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500 > ... > > > this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT > > > need, and what you don't have to have to make it work.. > > > > Absolutely.

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-12-25 09:04:42, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500 ... > > this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT > > need, and what you don't have to have to make it work.. > > Absolutely. I'm just warning you to be prepared for a lot of very > frustrating "w

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:07:55 -0500 Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Thu December 24 2009, Celejar wrote: > > > relating to doing so.  When compiling one's first custom kernel one > > > should start with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs.  Then build things > > > up from there as you need more abiliti

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/25/2009 4:07 AM: > this is the "learning" part.. knowing what you need, what you MIGHT need, and > what you don't have to have to make it work.. You've just passed the first milestone, and seem to be continuing down the right path in your kernel building journey.

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu December 24 2009, Celejar wrote: > > relating to doing so.  When compiling one's first custom kernel one > > should start with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs.  Then build things > > up from there as you need more abilities from you kernel. ;) > > But I'd add that it's very easy to disabl

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-25 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu December 24 2009, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > make[1]: Leaving directory > > `/home/pbc/Documents/software/linux-2.6.31.9/linux-2.6.31.9/Documentation > >/lguest' make: *** [debian/stamp/build/kernel] Error 2 > > http://cakebox.homeunix.net/wordpress/?p=100 THAT I can follow! my googling didn'

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-24 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 20:53:31 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: ... > relating to doing so. When compiling one's first custom kernel one should > start > with _ONLY_ the functionality one needs. Then build things up from there as > you > need more abilities from you kernel. ;) But I'd add that it's

Re: building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 12/24/2009 12:04 PM: > On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote: >> Exactly. And you can turn off all the sound card and video drivers >> except the one(s) you actually need, and the same for networking hw, >> etc. > > so I was reading this: > http://www.wowway.com/~zli

building a custom kernel-WAS: Re: USB disk shows up late at boot

2009-12-24 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue December 22 2009, Celejar wrote: > Exactly.  And you can turn off all the sound card and video drivers > except the one(s) you actually need, and the same for networking hw, > etc. so I was reading this: http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm which is about the same.. I ran these comm