On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
>
>> > I doubt a blind person would be asking for printed books on Debian.
>
>> Blind person could ask books for Debian if they are written with
>> Braille, but they might be more rare than normal books about Debia
On Wednesday 13 June 2012 16:01:26 Karen Lewellen wrote:
> For example while I found a debian for beginners e-book from the free
> technology academy, In Europe I think as the license references the
> European Union, the zip format seemed unusual.
There's a Linux for beginners, which makes use of
> > I doubt a blind person would be asking for printed books on Debian.
> Blind person could ask books for Debian if they are written with
> Braille, but they might be more rare than normal books about Debian.
My English is broken, but perhaps the term "printed" isn&
ading it aloud?
>> >
>> > Perhaps not if you're blind....
> I doubt a blind person would be asking for printed books on Debian.
This seems to be going offtopic but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille
Blind person could ask books for Debian if they are written with
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 19:32 +0100, keith wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 19:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:55 +0100, keith wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > > Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
person would be asking for printed books on Debian.
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On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 19:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:55 +0100, keith wrote:
> > On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
> > > reading it aloud?
> >
> > Perhaps not if you're
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:55 +0100, keith wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
> > reading it aloud?
>
> Perhaps not if you're blind
Braille reading? Blind people have issues to type and to
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
> reading it aloud?
Perhaps not if you're blind
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On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 03:55 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Mmmm, surely it is faster to read something than to listen to someone
> reading it aloud?
Humans aren't equal.
Even healthy ears differ a little bit. My better ear is the left ear,
but to understand the contend of a spoken text, e.g. at
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:43:28PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Agreed there are many reasons for speech computing, as unique and
> individual as those who so choose...I imagine even a few who just
> want to work faster, since the human brain can process verbally with
> greater speed than visual
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 08:49:15AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 18:55 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > The Advanced Bash Scripting Guide is quite thorough:
> > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
>
> There also is a beginners guide.
>
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardor
On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 18:55 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> The Advanced Bash Scripting Guide is quite thorough:
> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
There also is a beginners guide.
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
> http://tldp.org/
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:22:25PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Ponyland?
>
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 18:02 +0100, keith wrote:
> > Midnight Commander (MC) is your friend for file management & editing.
>
> Are you serious?
Why not?
MC is awesome.
>
> > .mp3
>
> For musicians MP3 crap?
Indeed.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 05:21:27PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I don't know this, but it seems to be ok, so I bookmarked it sometime
> ago, when it was announced on this list http://debian-handbook.info/ .
>
> And I don't have the time to search for it now, but there are two
> brilliant ebooks fo
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 06:06:37PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> Well, one out there is the Debian Administrator's Handbook publicly
> available:
>
> http://debian-handbook.info/
>
> That covers things at an intro level.
I had the privilege and pleasure of working on the translation of this
On 06/13/2012 05:01 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
Yes I know about the Linux Documentation project, and that there are
howtos that are a part of the system itself, and on line. these are not
the sort of books I mean however.
I am thinking of external ones, I have a scanner, books with pages
ed on Debian.
this was the best i found.
Pretty handy for me to hand as a reference. Includes installs through to
configuring required services.
Cheers,
Nathan
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:18:57 +0200
> From: a...@c2i.net
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: books
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:32:54 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message
:
> ahem,
> I think I said, but it may have been lost in the mayhem of ideas.
> 1. I seek a single book, one that can either be read in the standard
> fashion, it has pages, or b, exists as a single file that can be
> read entirel
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 18:43 -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Personally? I think I am allergic to poor mp3 quality! I am a professional,
> and I will avoid mp3s whenever possible. they exist for moving files in
> my book not as a substitution for real sound. When I file for national or
> intern
will speak to what of this I can.
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Joe wrote:
.mp3
For musicians MP3 crap?
We are aware you have serious musical needs, but most of us don't. For
background listening while working, just about any player will do. You
need to be paying close attention to music, with
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 22:27 +0100, Joe wrote:
> Why not? I use it on (GUI-less) servers and also when I need a file
> manager/editor working as root on my GUI workstation. Admin work rarely
> needs a heavyweight editor, and it's easier to avoid mistakes if I
> associate the sparse mc screen with ro
ahem,
I think I said, but it may have been lost in the mayhem of ideas.
1. I seek a single book, one that can either be read in the standard
fashion, it has pages, or b, exists as a single file that can be read
entirely off line...think of say a word processor like wordperfect, or a
plain text
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:22:25 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 18:02 +0100, keith wrote:
> > Midnight Commander (MC) is your friend for file management &
> > editing.
>
> Are you serious?
Why not? I use it on (GUI-less) servers and also when I need a file
manager/editor worki
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:01:26 -0400 (EDT), Karen wrote in message
:
..newbie-doc online:
http://developer.berlios.de/projects/newbiedoc/
..newbie-doc deep in the woods:
http://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Index.html?type=html
arnt@celsius:~/FG-git$ apt
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Ponyland?
>
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 18:02 +0100, keith wrote:
> > Midnight Commander (MC) is your friend for file management & editing.
>
> Are you serious?
>
> > .mp3
>
> For musicians MP3 crap?
>
> > Mutt is the usual email program, or
Thank you Gustin (Bcc) :)
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Subject: Re: ebooks
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 11:19:21 -0600
Not Debian specific at all. Anyone writing scripts is likely to already
know about these.
http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/
h
Ponyland?
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 18:02 +0100, keith wrote:
> Midnight Commander (MC) is your friend for file management & editing.
Are you serious?
> .mp3
For musicians MP3 crap?
> Mutt is the usual email program, or (e)pine.
"Usual MUA" for whom? I won't recommend anything else, even while I'
[QUOTE]I am thinking of external ones, I have a scanner, books with
pages
smiles.
I just searched my local library for example, and found a debian bible
3
x circle 2005...too dated?
Other authors / titles I might find?[/QUOTE]
The Debian Administrators Handbook
The Debian System
How Linux Works
I don't know this, but it seems to be ok, so I bookmarked it sometime
ago, when it was announced on this list http://debian-handbook.info/ .
And I don't have the time to search for it now, but there are two
brilliant ebooks for bash on English. I still know who recommended those
books and will Bcc
Well, one out there is the Debian Administrator's Handbook publicly
available:
http://debian-handbook.info/
That covers things at an intro level.
Regards
/Lars
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Hi folks,
Yes I know about the Linux Documentation project, and that there are
howtos that are a part of the system itself, and on line.these are not the
sort of books I mean however.
I am thinking of external ones, I have a scanner, books with pages
smiles.
I just searched my local library
Hi Fernando
On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:41, Fernando Cardenas wrote:
> I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
[ ... ]
<http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/>
You'll find there a book on Debian, too. From 1999, might be dated ...
don't know ..
I hav
> On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 02:12, dircha wrote:
>> Fernando Cardenas wrote:
>> > I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
>> > Thanks.
Unix Power tools is always a great reference as well -> 3rd edition !
Linux Server Hacks as wel
on Thu, May 27, 2004 at 08:12:11PM -0500, dircha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Fernando Cardenas wrote:
> >I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
> >Thanks.
>
> Have you checked the Debian Documentation page [1] yet?
>
> There are very few De
On (28/05/04 10:15), Iain Mac Donald wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 02:12, dircha wrote:
> > Fernando Cardenas wrote:
> > > I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
> > > Thanks.
> >
> > Have you checked the Debian Documentation pa
On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 02:12, dircha wrote:
> Fernando Cardenas wrote:
> > I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
> > Thanks.
>
> Have you checked the Debian Documentation page [1] yet?
>
> There are very few Debian-specific books - and I
Fernando Cardenas wrote:
I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
Thanks.
Have you checked the Debian Documentation page [1] yet?
There are very few Debian-specific books - and I know of none more
useful than what is already available electronically.
Look in /usr/share
I am still new to linux, can somebody suggest me books on debian?
Thanks.
Fernando Cárdenas
Universal Systems, Inc.
1356 East 3300 South
Salt Lake City, Utah 84106
Phone (801)484-9151
Fax (801)467-8020
www.usicomputer.com
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Howdy,
* Joshua Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021126 14:52]:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote:
> > New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
> > not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
> > anybody could recommend...
>
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote:
> New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
> not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
> anybody could recommend...
O'Reilly has a book on Debian, though it's on an older version of D
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:06:09AM -0900, Andy wrote:
> > New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
> > not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
> > anybody could recommend...
>
> I am just finishing up Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Unleashed.
>
>
> New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
> not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
> anybody could recommend...
I am just finishing up Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 Unleashed.
Great book. I highly recommend it. $7 used off Amazon.
Worth ever
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote:
> New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
> not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
> anybody could recommend...
Please look http://www.debian.org/doc
If you ask me, "Install Manu
New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although
not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that
anybody could recommend...
TIA
gene
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Almost sorta supprised that noone has mentioned the DBP (Debian Book
Project) that I had started a few months back. URL is in sig.
Mainly I started it for 2 main reasons, which are:
1) Publicity - I have seen about 12 books on linux (have 4 of them) they
cover SlackWare and RedHat, well the n
W Paul Mills wrote:
> My start with Debian came about 6 months ago. I found dselect and
> the rest of the packaging system confusing. Frustrating at that time
> was man pages that said they were not up to date - read the docs.
> The doc files also said they were not up to date - read the man pages
Paul Wade wrote:
> I also agree. Only a few pages of hardcopy are needed. Consider the
> candidate for a thick 'Complete Debian' type of book:
>
> 1) His hardware is too strange to get base and a few things installed.
>
> 2) He has no way to browse a CD.
>
> 3) He has no way to view web pages.
>
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:
> My point is, having Debain's book on the shelves of bookshops raises the
> visibility of Debain and may actually encourage people to choose it over
> other distributions.
Very true. I had heard about linux for some time before first trying
it somewhere back
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> >
> > Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of
> > Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's
> > published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all
> > the Deb
David Wright wrote:
>
> Two problem(s) with a book: (a) you're really only buying a few pages of
> Debian-specific stuff which (b) is almost out-of-date before it's
> published. I'd far rather have just a good annotated bibliography of all
> the Debianised documentation. As I think I've said befor
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997, H.C.Lai wrote:
> I know some people would say one doesn't need a book cause there
> are all those guides that come with the distribution. But for people
> who are new to Linux or who are reponsible for setting up and
> maintaining a network of Linux boxes, a complete reference
I wonder if the Debian team has any plan of publishing a book
on how to install/use/administer a Debian system ?? I suspect
people who are new to Linux and haven't decided which distribution to
install may find the idea of a reference book very reassuring. Who
knows, this may turn out to be the fac
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