Re: backing up a drive

2006-04-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Sorry, for the late reponse... You have: Windows 98 proprietary software What you can do is easy: 1) Install the new Hardrive with a new Windows 98 and make it bootable (make sure it works) 2) stop your computer and attach the old Harddisk to the secoindary IDE-

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-27 Thread John Fleming
The dd can be from a live cdrom or from a small partition on the box reserved just for this purpose. The latter is no good in the case of a dead disk but is convenient otherwise. What about mirrordir? Assuming equal partitions on 2 disks, say from a prior dd run, how does the result of mir

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Brockway
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Doofus wrote: Only do this in single user mode though, right? Or better still, on a Make sure that the MS-Window system is not active in any way (through a virtual system or whatever). The dd can be from a live cdrom or from a small partition on the box reserved just f

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Chris Lale
Micha Feigin wrote: I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so unless I can restore it exactly the program will stop running (it's a veterinary clinic software so I don't think that there

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike Smith wrote: I'd prefer you not to top post. Hmm... Doesn't the hard drive's MBR have the disk size on it? Yes, but the MBR is not part of any partition. Using dd on /hda1 uses the partition, not the physical disc. (I know that's the case with floppy disks - I made Windows think a 1.44

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike Smith
Hmm... Doesn't the hard drive's MBR have the disk size on it? (I know that's the case with floppy disks - I made Windows think a 1.44mb floppy was 33.6 mb once. The power of a hex editor ;-) )  On 3/21/06, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philippe De Ryck wrote:> Well, according to me a dd o

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Duncan Anderson
On Tuesday, 21 March 2006 14:40, John Fleming wrote: > >> > A pointer: take a dump of the entire drive (dd if=/dev/hda) and not > >> > just > >> > partition. > > Please tell this newbie additional info that's probably obvious to everyone > else - What all should be stopped while dd is doing it's th

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Philippe De Ryck wrote: Well, according to me a dd of a live system is a really bad idea. The safest way is just boot with a live linux CD (knoppix for instance) and dump the partitions from the HDD. Do NOT dump a mounted partition. This was my thought on the matter as well, use Knoppix or Kano

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Micha Feigin wrote: I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so unless I can restore it exactly the program will stop running (it's a veterinary clinic software so I don't think that there

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Doofus
Dmitri Minaev wrote: >On 3/21/06, Robert Brockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>There may be a way around this limitation or to fix it after >>>performing dd. >>> >>> >>Following a reimaging from dd the options to expand the filesystem are: >>1. Resize the filesystem using suitable too

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 07:40 -0500, John Fleming wrote: > >> > A pointer: take a dump of the entire drive (dd if=/dev/hda) and not > >> > just > >> > partition. > > Please tell this newbie additional info that's probably obvious to everyone > else - What all should be stopped while dd is doing it

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread John Fleming
> A pointer: take a dump of the entire drive (dd if=/dev/hda) and not > just > partition. Please tell this newbie additional info that's probably obvious to everyone else - What all should be stopped while dd is doing it's thing, IOW stop mail server and anything else that might be actively t

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-21 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 00:17 -0500, Robert Brockway wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Philippe De Ryck wrote: > > > A pointer: take a dump of the entire drive (dd if=/dev/hda) and not just > > partition. I've had some systems that wouldn't accept the restored > > version (PC wouldn't boot anymore due t

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 March 2006 14:24, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: > Micha Feigin wrote: > >I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to > > another). It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to > > the system so unless I can restore it exactly the program wil

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 March 2006 13:32, Micha Feigin wrote: > I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). > It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so > unless I can restore it exactly the program will stop running (it's a > veterinary clinic

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Robert Brockway
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Philippe De Ryck wrote: A pointer: take a dump of the entire drive (dd if=/dev/hda) and not just partition. I've had some systems that wouldn't accept the restored version (PC wouldn't boot anymore due to no OS found) unless the whole disk was restored. I've done this plen

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Dmitri Minaev
On 3/21/06, Robert Brockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There may be a way around this limitation or to fix it after > > performing dd. > Following a reimaging from dd the options to expand the filesystem are: > 1. Resize the filesystem using suitable tools if possible. > or > 2. Take the data o

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Robert Brockway
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: I seem to recall that it doesn't. I believe that dd will cause the partition to think it's the size of the original partition. So it "works," but you can only use as much space as the original hard drive had. That's right. It does work in so far

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2006-03-20, Micha Feigin penned: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:46:15 -0600 Mark Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> There's a few ways to do this, such as 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc' > > Will this work if the drives are not of the same size? (I want to > backup the drive so that I can re

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread John Hasler
Micha Feigin writes: > Will [dd] work if the drives are not of the same size? It will work as long as the destination drive is as large or larger than the source. > I want to backup the drive so that I can restore it later if there is a > problem You could copy the disk to a file. > Like I said

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 09:24 +1100, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: > Micha Feigin wrote: > > >I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). > >It > >contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so > >unless > >I can restore it exactly th

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Micha Feigin wrote: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:46:15 -0600 Mark Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 03:32 PM 3/20/2006, you wrote: I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). It ... ... I have an extra hard disk so I thought to use that. The new one is

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread John Hasler
Micha Feigin writes: > I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to > another). Use dd. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Micha Feigin wrote: I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so unless I can restore it exactly the program will stop running (it's a veterinary clinic software so I don't think that there

Re: backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:46:15 -0600 Mark Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 03:32 PM 3/20/2006, you wrote: > >I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). > >It > >contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the > >system so unless > >I can rest

backing up a drive

2006-03-20 Thread Micha Feigin
I want to make an exact backup of a hard drive (copy one drive to another). It contains a program who's copy protection checks changes to the system so unless I can restore it exactly the program will stop running (it's a veterinary clinic software so I don't think that there is a free alternative)